How to disable ABS?

pickup · Dec 24, 2007

ABS does not work on gravel roads (99 percent of my driving) The sensors think that the rocks are slippery, but dont realize there is hard, good stopping traction, just underneath. I've been driving for 24 years, most of them as a trucker, and I sure don't need some hi-tech, proven on a "test track" :annoyed:

, school trained design engineer :idiot:

, built truck :badidea:

helping me with my driving skills.

I have an 04 4x4 that I would like to know how to get rid of the abs without losing the speedometer. I understand that just pulling fuses, knocks out the speedo. Is it possible to unhook the sensors at the wheels or is there another way?

Wicked_Sludge · Dec 24, 2007

since abs became popular in the 70's, it has been used world-wide on literally billions of cars....its much more then just "test track" tested.

the ABS works by unlocking each individual tire after it locks up....so the system has no way of "thinking" a surface is slippery or not. it just knows when a tire is locked...and a locked tire will not stop as quickly as an unlocked one. what it boils down to is that your truck will stop more quickly with the ABS system in tact than it will with no ABS....regardless of how much you resent the technology behind it.

86ford · Dec 24, 2007

pickup said:
ABS does not work on gravel roads (99 percent of my driving) The sensors think that the rocks are slippery, but dont realize there is hard, good stopping traction, just underneath. I've been driving for 24 years, most of them as a trucker, and I sure don't need some hi-tech, proven on a "test track", school trained design engineer, built truck helping me with my driving skills.

I have an 04 4x4 that I would like to know how to get rid of the abs without losing the speedometer. I understand that just pulling fuses, knocks out the speedo. Is it possible to unhook the sensors at the wheels or is there another way?

theres a plug behind each tire. pull them and they will stop working. i have also been known to pull the wiring from the ABS box on the inside of the drivers frame rail(older RBVS). because lights on my dash drive me completely nutts i also will pull the dash apart and pull the bulb for the ABS. i hate the light and the e-check people here in ohio dont like brake lights or any other lights be on, on the dash. (inspections else ware i assume do too).

86

blkmazda90 · Dec 24, 2007

pickup said:
ABS does not work on gravel roads (99 percent of my driving) The sensors think that the rocks are slippery, but dont realize there is hard, good stopping traction, just underneath. I've been driving for 24 years, most of them as a trucker, and I sure don't need some hi-tech, proven on a "test track", school trained design engineer, built truck helping me with my driving skills.

That doesn't make sense because abs only unlocks the tire when it locks up. On the inside of your rotor there a bunch of teeth similar to a gear i guess you could describe it that way. Anyway when your driving and the sensor sees that the teeth have stopped turning(locked up tire) it releases and applies and if you think about it one of the best inventions for a vechicle. but if you dont like it pull the fuse.

pickup · Dec 25, 2007

Thank you 86ford, thats what I needed to know. As for how abs works, I know. And try not to take the "thinking" part so literally.

You guys can have your technological advanced stuff. The big truck manfacturers even quit using abs, after trying it for a few years. We put on more miles in one year than most people put on in their pickup's life and never needed abs. Like I said before, fine on the test track, but out here in the real world, it's just another trouble causing gadget.

To clarify the "slippery gravel" thing, the road is usually hard, under an inch of loose rocks. If you lock up the wheels, it pushes the rocks out of the way and allows the tires to get to the hard part of the road, where its got some traction. Your wonderful abs, keeps locking and unlocking on top of those loose rocks, so it takes forever to stop.

There is a huge difference between gravel and pavement. Same as the pasture in the hills, abs just keeps the truck rolling on top of slippery grass, when what you want to happen is, the tires to skid and tear up the grass to get to the dirt underneath.(I live in some HILLY country, where we need 4wd)

It all boils down to where you drive, and for me, abs doesn't work.

Donnie strickland · Dec 27, 2007

ABS works and it is safer for the vast majority of drivers. You can't steer a locked-up wheel. But what I wonder about is this: when ABS started to become common on everyday automobiles, a lot of cars had an "ABS Off" switch so that you could disable it when conditions warranted -- i.e. on gravel (as pickup correctly points out) or on snow (not ice). A car can stop more quickly without ABS in these situations. But it wasn't long before these switches disappeared. Fear of lawsuits, perhaps?

freebird · Jan 21, 2008

you probably could just pull the ABS fuse. The light will come on, but when you go to get it inspected just throw the fuse back in.

Jmhm17 · Jan 25, 2008

Wicked_Sludge said:
since abs became popular in the 70's, it has been used world-wide on literally billions of cars....its much more then just "test track" tested.

the ABS works by unlocking each individual tire after it locks up....so the system has no way of "thinking" a surface is slippery or not. it just knows when a tire is locked...and a locked tire will not stop as quickly as an unlocked one. what it boils down to is that your truck will stop more quickly with the ABS system in tact than it will with no ABS....regardless of how much you resent the technology behind it.

i hate to be an ethug but wow.. im new to this whole off road world (i know your not off roading when this is happeing) but when you try to stop going down a huge hill covered in sand, gravel, or snow while offroading.. you dont want to have ABS on or you will just "roll" to the bottom faster then if you where to slide by locking the breaks, this is very dangerouse belive it or not. now since we dont need to give an explination of what ABS is or dose.. lets get right to answering your question since Me, just like you dont like ABS on sertain kinds of terain.. what you need to do is pop your hood and pull the number 17 fuse from your fuse box, dont pull the one in the cab it will shut all other shit off, the one under the hood is just the ABS motor.. now im not 100% sure if its fuse number 17 im going off of memory.. check your owners manual and pull the fuse in the engine compartment thats labeled "ABS Motor" and whala no more abs.. hope that helps buddy

amanda11270 · Dec 17, 2008

thank god, someone finally just answered the question, because I was looking for an answer for this also, rather than attempting to be an engineer on how ABS works and whether it is better than non ABS, I think everyone has a preference, how about we leave it at that. I myself owned motorcycles and cars with ABS, and do not prefer it, im more the "im in control type" than relying on the vehicle being in control type. Anyone seen "the terminator" look were machines being in control gets you LOL.

MAKG · Dec 18, 2008

Your worldview is shaped by the Terminator? God help us.

It's science FICTION. Key word, there.

Wicked_Sludge · Dec 18, 2008

i like to be in control of my truck as much as the next guy. thats why i have a manual transmission, transfer case, hubs, windows, mirrors, locks, etc, etc. but there are some things a computer can just do better than a human...and one of those things is pulse the brakes to prevent a lockup. there are certain circumstances in which ABS could prove ineffective, but in 99% of cases, its going to slow the vehicle faster than you could with just your foot.

BlackBII · Dec 18, 2008

Wicked_Sludge said:
but in 99% of cases, its going to slow the vehicle faster than you could with just your foot.

Speakin of which...what all would need to be done to swap ABS into say, a '90 BII? New master, booster, spindles, calipers, sensor etc?

Wicked_Sludge · Dec 18, 2008

you'd need the whole computer and wiring harness....it wouldnt be fun. not to mention im not sure if the newer spindles and rotors with ABS provisions will bolt onto a BII...although i dont see what not. that'd also get you upgraded 2-piston calipers.

BlackBII · Dec 18, 2008

Im currently gathering parts to do a 2 piston swap for my BII (It has a D35). I figured I may look into putting ABS on as well while I have the knuckles off the truck

Maybe too much of a headache with the whole computer and harness (I actually just finished the 4.0 swap in my BII)

jax4bangin · Dec 20, 2008

my manual doesnt have shit bout fuses in it( its jus the lame one that comes wit ur vehicle) how can i find out exactly wat fuse it is? pictures anyone??

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