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'97 Ranger, Lots of questions


Ranger97XL

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1997
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I have a 2.3l standard cab short bed ranger and after spending a saturday at some dunes in Michigan with my roommates jeep i want to start building a prerunner. I have an 8.8 from an explorer that i'm waiting to put in and i have a 91-92 F-150 sitting in my drive way that my dad is taking the engine out of. I know i can use the springs, but I can't find a solid answer on if i can use the rear leafs, or arms from it? also I kinda just want to know where to start. I still consider myself an amateur but I have spent quite a bit of time wrenching on my old mustang and my roommates jeep. This seems to be a pricey thing to get into so it's going to take a lil while for me to acquire parts and install them. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

on a side note, reading through the posts, either i missed it or it doesn't exist but some of you guys have some serious knowledge on this subject, I think a sticky on what prerunning is and some basics when it comes to building a prerunner would be pretty sweet.:icon_thumby:
 
Prerunning i basically when your get ready for some sort of desert race or any race for that matter, you sometimes have the chance to go out and prerun the race course. This is usually only true for the longer races while the shorter races you figure out the track your first lap of the race.

A prerunner is a purpose built truck made to tackle the rough course smoothly while in the comfort of a radio, A/C, and other ammenities you may not have in a full race truck. You can prerun a course in a stock truck but be prepared to be fairly beat up from the ride as most courses are very rough and enduring. Having a built "prerunner" made with long travel suspension, a cage, tools, GPS to mark the course, and the ammenities mentioned above makes things easier on the driver, passengers, and to really focus on what the course hold for obsticles.

The term Prerunner was taken from this appication to use in reference as to what these trucks were built for. To have fun, be safe and still have the creature comforts of a stock truck. We build these trucks for the fun of being able to keep them street legel while also being able to hit a rough dirt road at 50+ mph and still be able to drive the vehicle home in one piece. While it is not always advised to go out way away from home and beat on your truck due to if you break something, you could be stuck out in the wilderness.

A prerunner is also not limited to just a truck. It can be a VW bug, built and braced sand rail, an SUV or pretty much anything you can make that is realible, safe, and is comfortable.


Now building one takes lots and lots of reseach. The more inofrmation you know, the better off you will be when building your vehicle. Asking questions never hurts anyone and for me, there are no dumb questions as i was once new to the sport.

On most vehicles, guys will start with a set of deaver or comprable leaf packs for the rear and a semi to full long travel front end. I personally suggest that if you plan on doing to good sized jumps or any moderate to hard off-roading that you build a cage FIRST. Safety is the number one priority in this sport as you can really hurt yourself along with others. If your doing mild stuff then a rear bed cage is all thats need for the rear to help you add longer shocks. This will be required to get all the travel out of the new leaf pack you have just bought. There are different types of packs out there so make sure to do your reseach first before buying one. When getting your rear shocks i suggest buying some that are rebuildable/revalveable. This way you can tune your shock to your needs.

For the front end, its not all about travel numbers (or wheel travel as it can be called other places, that is the distance from the wheel hub w/ the susension at full droop to the wheel hub w/ the suspension at full bump), its all in how you valve your shocks. I have seen trucks with 13" of travel beat trucks with 20" of travel all because their valving was spot on (look at the total chaos first race truck in google). Look for kits that are made by reputable people, you dont want a kit that is just thrown together. Threat Motorsports, Dixon Bros., Giant Motorsports, Camburg are just a few i know to be very reputable shops. Once you find a kit its just a matter of putting it on but here is where your reseach came into play because if you did not find out if the kit came with a new shock tower for your coilovers (should you go that way) or certain hardware, your truck may be sitting for a week or so. dont be afraid to ask the supplier questions, you are the purchaser and its goin on your truck.

Many people will also build a new front bumper to hold more lights and to also stand up to bushes, rocks or the occasional nerf (hit) to the guy in front telling him to please move over so you can pass. A rear bump can also be made to help with those nerf you may encounter.

Lockers or L/S are very reommended if doin lots of off roading as having both tires spinning really helps with traction off-road.

Im sure there may be some other little things i am forgetting but that is the jist of what a prerunner is and where to start. Please remember that your safety should be your first priority!
 
man i got all into your last part there i forgot you answer your first questions! lol my bad. Personally, i wouldnt use the F-150 suspension if you lookin to prerun and are just startin out. it will take a good amount of fab work to get it all set right. i would look into an Autofab kit or something to that affect. i know Dave at Threat Motorsports has some great starter kits too (kinda bi-est toward him as i bought all my front end race stuff from him, plus he is an awesome guy to talk to). You ought to look into a kit that is like the stock setup (coil spring with shock next to it) or a mild coilover kit that does not require lots of modification. The rear leafs on the 150 will do you no good either unless you get some kind of preload into them but even then you wont get much travel. Raceranger on here did some work with a set of GM springs and it seems to work pretty well. i think there is a thread in this section talking about them.

The more specific in the questions you ask or direction you want to take, the more we can really help fine tune you into a kit that would suit your

So now, is the ranger a DD? what is your price range? (even if you are saving, everyone has a limit still) what do you want to do with the truck? how comfortable are you about fabrication?
 
Thanks for the response, the ranger is a daily driver, I am pretty comfortable with the idea of fabricating. I can't say I have ever done anything major other than exhausts and patch work but I can do minor welding and metal working, and I would rather build it than buy it. I'm a college student and living on my own so funds are tight. I am looking for something that can be driven every day but is capable enough to have fun in the dunes. It would definitely be a weekend warrior but i am comfortable with driving something geared more towards performance than comfort
 
i know Dave at Threat Motorsports has some great starter kits too (kinda bi-est toward him as i bought all my front end race stuff from him, plus he is an awesome guy to talk to). You ought to look into a kit that is like the stock setup (coil spring with shock next to it)


ahhhh,84, and rember the days when you were going to keep it simple,unless someone wanted to buy you a a equal lenth kit hahahah....Then some smuck had to go and show you pics of threats kits lol.....

ranger 97 if daves still doing his unequal lenth kit's on coil springs that would be a great start,see if you can trade off some of the f150 parts for a 95-01 explorer disc break rear, gear it, then throw some long travel leafs, deaver, national etc under the rear, and you would have a good start.Then work on the cage aspect before you throw good/race shocks on it, so your not tempted to "see what it can do",but the truck will still be fun till you can get the cage work done.

First time around I would really suggest buying a kit off of someone.So you dont end up with a dangerous truck(noting like have a beam snap on you etc going down the freeway) or a money pit of "ah craps".

If you had a off road only truck, that was caged Id say go for it all yourself. but since its your daily driver.....
 
hey man i dont know about your ranger i think it still has i beams.. if it does leave it alone its old technologie but its the best ´simple and cheap.¨buy lift coils¨
if it has a arms it will be more expensive to make them performe. ¨buy spindles¨
do not try to put the a arms from that other truck. the spring wont fit either they are beefier
do not use the leaf springs from the other truck. not happening
the leeaf springs you can put a spacer block for the look for now. later get a national spring set.
the 8.8 i would let it chill for now... safely in the garage

step by step ...
 
hey man i dont know about your ranger i think it still has i beams.. if it does leave it alone its old technologie but its the best ´simple and cheap.¨buy lift coils¨
if it has a arms it will be more expensive to make them performe. ¨buy spindles¨
do not try to put the a arms from that other truck. the spring wont fit either they are beefier
do not use the leaf springs from the other truck. not happening
the leeaf springs you can put a spacer block for the look for now. later get a national spring set.
the 8.8 i would let it chill for now... safely in the garage

step by step ...


the 8.8 is going in first, i want it in by this coming winter, it's an ls and right now i'm rockin' an open. needless its a lil embarrassing/annoying during the chicago winters getting stuck in your parking spot with a truck :annoyed:
 

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