Torsen carrier compatibility

[rubydist]

My 09 had the Torsen diff. I was not a fan even though I thought I would be. A decent acceleration around a rh corner from a stop would almost always result in tire chirp like a locker would, because the diff wanted to make both axles go at the same speed. It worked fine in snow and mud, but for my usage I would prefer the clutch type.

The 01 I have now has an air locker that the prior owner had installed (no idea why as he never off-roaded it) and that is not great for street use. If its slippery out, I need to pump up the air before heading out, and then lock and unlock depending on how the road is. Its not a great system for the street...

 

[gw33gp]

This Torsen is a weird animal in street use with a V8 powering it. It can still one wheel peel for quite a ways until it decides to grip up. It's not ideal but certainly better than an open diff.

I have a 69 Cobra powered with a 428CJ V8 and has a Detroit Truetrac differential. The Truetrac has the same design and functions the same way as the Torsen. My Ranger has a Torsen, so I know how they both operate. Neither one has ever had a one-wheel peel. I push them both hard too. One thing they both do is chirp the inside wheel when going around a sharp corner if accelerating a little too hard. If accelerating too much too hard, it will go sideways or spin out depending on how quick you are to catch it.

Before I installed the Detroit Truetrac in my Cobra, it would one-wheel peel very easily. It could do that in second until it shifted to third. With the Truetrac, it still breaks the tires loose but gains traction quicker.

I don't know where you got you information, but it is wrong or it is based on a broken Torsen. The really nice thing about a Torsen is they don't wear out like clutch LSDs do. Off-road I find the Torsen works well with one tire in the air. It almost acts like a locker temporarily if you accelerate when the tire lifts.

 

[gw33gp]

My 09 had the Torsen diff. I was not a fan even though I thought I would be. A decent acceleration around a rh corner from a stop would almost always result in tire chirp like a locker would, because the diff wanted to make both axles go at the same speed. It worked fine in snow and mud, but for my usage I would prefer the clutch type.

The 01 I have now has an air locker that the prior owner had installed (no idea why as he never off-roaded it) and that is not great for street use. If its slippery out, I need to pump up the air before heading out, and then lock and unlock depending on how the road is. Its not a great system for the street...

An air locker should not be used on the street. Going around corners is a big strain on the axles. Plus, you rarely need them on the street. I have one on my 24 Bronco and never engage it on the street. It does have traction control so if the tire breaks loose, it applies the brakes on the slipping wheel to help control it.

The chirping is easy to control. I know how much I can accelerate in the corner before I get near straight. I do get an occasional chirp but that does not bother me. It is better than the tire breaking loose and laying down rubber. I like the Torsen so much on my Ranger that I installed one in the front too.

 

[RangerXLT]

I have 2 TrueTracs no one wheel peel with them either, Agree with gw33gp on the spinning Torsen sounds broken.

 

[lowspeedpursuit]

I've been chirping my Truetrac if I'm in a hurry around tight corners. Never happened with Ford plates w/ 3-4oz friction mod; that one just tries to kill you sometimes in the same situation in the rain.

Both are equally invisible 90+% of the time, and keep me from 1-wheel-peeling in the snow and sand.

 

[Bird76Mojo]

I have a 69 Cobra powered with a 428CJ V8 and has a Detroit Truetrac differential. The Truetrac has the same design and functions the same way as the Torsen. My Ranger has a Torsen, so I know how they both operate. Neither one has ever had a one-wheel peel. I push them both hard too. One thing they both do is chirp the inside wheel when going around a sharp corner if accelerating a little too hard. If accelerating too much too hard, it will go sideways or spin out depending on how quick you are to catch it.

Before I installed the Detroit Truetrac in my Cobra, it would one-wheel peel very easily. It could do that in second until it shifted to third. With the Truetrac, it still breaks the tires loose but gains traction quicker.

I don't know where you got you information, but it is wrong or it is based on a broken Torsen. The really nice thing about a Torsen is they don't wear out like clutch LSDs do. Off-road I find the Torsen works well with one tire in the air. It almost acts like a locker temporarily if you accelerate when the tire lifts.

A Torsen absolutely wears out. The side "plate" or the end of the carrier, or the ends of the helical gears wear out due to constant friction. The "end loading" of the helical gears is exactly what makes it a LSD.

Mine has only one wheel peeled whenever I'm turning very hard while accelerating hard. If you lighten up one of the rear wheels enough it will spin only that wheel from time to time, but it usually just gets sideways. However, if you stay on the throttle, as the truck straightens out and levels up, it will hook both tires or break them both loose depending on throttle input and pavement surfaces.

How you drive your Ranger with a Torsen and how I drive my V8 street Ranger with a Torsen is completely different so they're not going to act exactly the same. Plus I was running a 275/40 Nitto rear tire. The old Nitto's were a finicky tire depending on temps. Hood like mad or act like they're made of pvc.

I've had it apart. It's not broken. It's likely just worn a good bit or I'm running too thin of an oil or getting it too hot.