Ticking (?) sound from somewhere when pulling someone out, etc?

[Daven]

Ok, so please forgive my lack of knowledge on any of this stuff... First truck so i have no idea what parts there is and etc. i know know its not supposed to make this noise, and that it doesnt all the time lol.

Ok so the first thing i have is when i turn on the truck first and it needs to warm up, there is a kind of ticking sound or something coming from the engine compartment. That goes away when it warms up good so i figured that is allright for now at least. I live in Canada so it is pretty cold here and as far as i can remember it only did it when it was real cold. The ticking is pretty loud and u can definately hear it, even over my glasspack (yes, i know... im working on it ).

So thats just a minor inconveinience... but i brought that up because i am thinking that is the same "ticking" i am hearing in these other situations. So what this thread i really about, is when i have to push my truck a little, it starts ticking real loudly from the front again. I am pretty sure it is the same sound. It goes with the RPMS as i drive or idle. Has happened to me when i was pulling my dads van up a steep hill (real deep snow and dead end at the end lol... that was fun times...) and i had to have it in 4x4 to give the van enough power and momentum to make it back up again (basic stuff). Its a really bad sound lol should not happen and scares me.

Also today, i had spent the night over at a buddie's farm and the roads to it are crap, with huge snow drifts. Everyone got stuck because the snow was real deep in alot of places and even my truck got stuck on the way because i was going at it too slow. So anyways, this morning omw back to town im going thru and the roads are even worse as the snow is coming down real hard and thick here atm. So i know i needed to keep my speed up and i kept it in 3rd to make sure i had the power to blast thru (was going maybe a little faster than 50hm/h). These drifts were deep and grabs ur car, u stop and then ur fawked lol. But anyways im going thru these drifts (in 4x4 of course) and every one i hit i give it some throttle to get thru because they seriously slow you down fast. Then as im going down the road i notice the "ticking" again and that starts to freak me out. And it was pretty loud.

So anyways, i had no choice but to keep going so when i got back into town i pulled over and popped the hood to attempt to locate te sound. I have no idea what the parts are exept for the extreemly basic stuff, but i figured it seems to be coming from the fan section at the front maybe. Seemed to me like it might have something to do with the belts, which would make sense because it goes with the RPMs right? But its not like i had it redlined or anything, i just needed that lower gear for the extra tourqe. Otherwise the truck just slows down in those huge drifts and i9 have to gear down anyways (and in turn get stuck).

I breifly looked around and (from what i could tell) there wasnt anything loose and banging against the engine or anything, and i didnt see any pools of liquid. I'm hoping someone here has run into something like this, i know someone would have lol. But i know my explanation is absolute crap because i dont even really know what im talking about, what i said i think it might be is just a simple theory

And btw, i've only owned this truck since like august but it has 292XXXkms on it. And it seems to only happen when im in 4x4 having to power thru something, never happened when i have the rpms up roaring around town or nothing

Thanks for reading... very sorry for the short novel, just trying to explain what little i know about it the best i can. Thank you in advance for any theories

 

[BRUTUS_T_HOG]

almost sounds like an exhaust leak. if it was the valve train it would tick no matter how much load is on the engine

 

[Daven]

almost sounds like an exhaust leak. if it was the valve train it would tick no matter how much load is on the engine

But how would the exhaust effect that? Like i said, racing down in 2wd on dry pavement (etc) doesnt produce the tick. Its only really happened when i warm up the truck (minor), and when i was pulling people out and today plowing thru drifts lol

However... my exhaust setup is absolute CRAP Buddy of mine was bugging me about how i should let him put on his glasspack.. because it will sound soooooo cool! So i finally gave in because a free glasspack is better than stock for me anyways But he fugged it up. Assured me it would work and when he did it and came by he was like "so you muffler and everything was rusted on... so i had to cut it off so ur tailpipes in the box. But i got the muffler on tho and it sounds beasty!" lmao and all he did was cut the pipe just before the muffler and stuck on a 2.5" cherrybomb glasspack (on 2" piping...). So i have a muffler that is kind of hanging there, not even sealed at all where the muffler attaches to the pipe. And nothing after the glasspack, exaust piupe still sitting in the crappy car in my driveway

So as you can imagine... this isnt exactly the ideal setup. But i figured i would leave it because i wanted to replace it right anyways when i "eventually" get to do a drivetrain swap to a 302 setup. Didnt see a whole lot of point to spending that much money to replace it later again.

So, could this somehow make ticking types of noises that sound like it is coming from my engine? And i dont get why it seems to never happen when in 2wd (even at high revs), or in 4x4 (at high revs). It seems to happen... *lightbulb flashes on*... when im pushing the engine for alot of tourque... whoa... lol didnt think of that lmfao, just thought of that as i wrote this Well im going to continue on as there is some good info above and i dont feel like erasing it ...

So anyways, is this the problem? How would it be making a ticking kind of noise? It really seemed to sound like it was coming from the belt system when i just popped the hood and looked in from the front. But hell, i have no clue

This disapoints me... lol i have money saved in the bank for a new lift and stuff... so i technically can do it :/ but then i will have to wait another eternity to get the money again lmao. Can i just get some kind of pipe that goes from 2" to 2.5" and attach the muffler properly, than get a downpipe and just run it like it is only dumping down? I have grown to the loud roar of my truck.. im afriad to loose it because i put the sound coming out the back. :/ my friend had a big ol' beater for hius first car and put a magnaflow on it and u could only here the ruble and roar from behind, in the front u just heard the engine and i hate that lol. It was a huge car tho and i hear magnaflow sucks... so maybe.. :/

What would you guys suggest?

 

[Daven]

omg it all seems to make sense now lmao and it ticks when i first start it because it needs that extra bit to warm up. I dont really know how u knew that, but i love you...just throwing that out there...

 

[BRUTUS_T_HOG]

when you apply a heavy load to the engine it rocks in the engine compartment, this can spread open a loose exhaust joint OR just make noise from the extra pressure and heat blowing out of a leaky gasket or crack in the manifold. explaining why it would happen while the engine is under load only

 

[Daven]

when you apply a heavy load to the engine it rocks in the engine compartment, this can spread open a loose exhaust joint OR just make noise from the extra pressure and heat blowing out of a leaky gasket or crack in the manifold. explaining why it would happen while the engine is under load only

What it does is after a bit of the truck being under that load, it starts making that noise and it wont go away. I drove my truck home with it doing that the whole way and it shouldnt be doing it now because thats how it went when i had to pull the van, it went until i shut it down and the next day was like normal.

So how could i fix this? It is not just a simple fix up the muffler and add a bend? Am i looking at replacing something in the exhaust manifold or a bad gasket? Is there any other tests i can do to prove this before i fix? lol And last but not least, what does this effect? If i plan on doing a 302 swap in the next year, should i really be fixing up this setup now?

 

[BRUTUS_T_HOG]

you haven't diagnoses it. i only suggested it was an exhaust leak its up to you to check and verify. it could also be engine mechanical noise. maybe it would be best to get a video recording of the noise

 

[Daven]

you haven't diagnoses it. i only suggested it was an exhaust leak its up to you to check and verify. it could also be engine mechanical noise. maybe it would be best to get a video recording of the noise

Yes i know, but how will i diagnose it? Is there something i can check that would tell me?

And while we are on the subject.. should i do the exhaust since it could fix it and should be done anyways? lol Like i said above?

 

[BRUTUS_T_HOG]

Yes i know, but how will i diagnose it? Is there something i can check that would tell me?

And while we are on the subject.. should i do the exhaust since it could fix it and should be done anyways? lol Like i said above?

its your money. if the truck has exhaust problems then fix them if you want to.

i usually rap the throttle while listening under the hood, an exhaust leak is usually pretty obvious sounding and easily pinpointed, for the harder to diagnose exhaust leaks a long stretch (3-4ft) of 5/8" heater hose helps to listen, you hold the hose to your ear and move the other end around the exhaust gaskets and joints.

i still recommend recording the noise if possible so some more experienced ears can take a listen

 

[Daven]

its your money. if the truck has exhaust problems then fix them if you want to.

i usually rap the throttle while listening under the hood, an exhaust leak is usually pretty obvious sounding and easily pinpointed, for the harder to diagnose exhaust leaks a long stretch (3-4ft) of 5/8" heater hose helps to listen, you hold the hose to your ear and move the other end around the exhaust gaskets and joints.

i still recommend recording the noise if possible so some more experienced ears can take a listen

I dont think i have a camera around :/

Well i guess i will look into getting the exhaust done... wasnt going to, but i wont have the money to get the new drivetrain, rebuild it, and put it in for a while anyways lol. Plus im still getting the lift and such before that so i may as well. I knew in the back of my head that this was a bad idea anyways.

So if i manage to find a camera, what all should i record? Obviously pop the hood while its running, but what else? Underneath? And does it need to be a great quality camera for an acurate vid?

 

[BRUTUS_T_HOG]

record the noise you are complaining about, needs decent audio quality. i'd record from the position it sounds loudest and rev the engine up and down a couple times

 

[tw205]

I have the same issues (kinda) with my 89 Bronco II 2.9. I installed a mechanical oil pressure guage, LOW pressure, Different engine temps and speed of travel effecting tick or no tick. Low speed travel is ok, highway? not so much. Have been running it with a quart of lucas oil stabilizer. Helps but is only temporary. Engine is tired. time for a new one.

 

[Big Jim M]

DAVEN!!
Crawl your ass around under and all over that vehicle while it is making the noise.. Surely you can find zackly where the noise is coming from. If not then call me and I'll send one of my daughters over there.. I know one of them can hear a sound and follow it to the area of origination!!!
Big JIm

 

[Daven]

DAVEN!!
Crawl your ass around under and all over that vehicle while it is making the noise.. Surely you can find zackly where the noise is coming from. If not then call me and I'll send one of my daughters over there.. I know one of them can hear a sound and follow it to the area of origination!!!
Big JIm

lmao its freakin winter out here! I can here the ticking, just sounded to me like it was coming from the front, so i popped the hood and listened in. And thats where i got that it sounded like it was coming from around where the belts systems are from standing infront. So i decided if im having this problem, someone else would have had it too.

Plus, this only really happens when im putting alot of strain on the truck like getting stuck (or trying not to lol). When i start it up and it warms up its nowehere near as bad as it gets. And i dont feel like going and trying to make it do that bad sound again if i dont have too...

Breaking things = not on my list of fun things to do right now

 

[jeffw920]

in my experience a good way to find an exhaust leak if there is one present is to start the motor, have someone give it some gas while you lay under it. its gonna be loud under there, but if you wear some heavy glvoes (so you dont burn yourself) and just grab a section at a time the noise will change because the pitch of the ratling loose part will change based on where you are grabbing, keep grabbing closer and closer and the speed of the rattling will increase....hard to describe and the noise is best detected by an experienced ear. im sure many ppl will thiink this method is dumb bc you really shouldnt be touching hot pipes, when i do this i do it after the truck has sat and wear heavy leather gloves, maybe welding gloves?