The build o.O

[white89ranger]

well he said he would prlly sell it for 1800

So the mustang harness will wire into the mark 7 engine and computer pretty easy?

 

[5.0]

http://www.coolcats.net/tech/advanced/ho_transplant.html

this link explains it all if you scroll down...the only true 5.0 ho were lincolns mark vII and mustangs

does anyone know of someone that has used this set up on their vehicle it should all go in nice im just wondering about the tcase?

The Thunderbirds and Cougars most certainly did come with a 5.0 HO motor from 1991 to 1993, and even with forged pistons until 1992. I don't know why you would think I would say something that isn't true.

If your talking about pre-91 Thunderbird engines, then yeah, they had the craptastic non-HO 5.0 rated at I *think* around 150 hp.

Post numbers 6 and 7 ---> http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/5-0l-talk/170501-what-cars-have-5-0-ho-swap-advice.html

Post numbers 6, 9 and 10 ---> http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/lat...underbird-5-0-ho-info-whos-got-check-out.html

Do a google search for Thunderbird 5.0 HO if you still think I'm a dumbass.


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[5.0]

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And some pics of my '92 Thunderbird donor car WITH a 5.0 HO

 

[Mac]

From what ive read the explorer swap to a pre 98 ranger can be a bit harder to wire and install then the mustang or lincoln mark 7 would be Im trying to go cheap here too....

A lot of people have used the later Explorers because of the better heads, intake and short front dress and usually lower, not driven hard miles. Just do the wiring conversion back to say the '93' Mustang engine harness, computer and ignition system and if you want more power, go with the 1.7 ratio rocker arms - without spending a whole lot.
Dave of the Nord

 

[--weezl--]

i think a better question would be what are you planning on doing with this truck, once the 5L is in it?

if you plan on racing it, then go with the 5L HO but if you were planning on wheeling it, then lower rpm power is worth it, and you would be decently set with the expo 5L

personally, when i find a new truck for cheap, i'm putting my 5L HO motor into a ranger, i'm also making it 4x4, but i more want to just build the crap out of it i've got the motor and trans already, just need the rest

 

[Mac]

i THINK, the 5.0 ho, also had a lighter balancer and fly wheel, which helped the motor get up to speed faster, greatly increasing acceleration, without actually increasing torque...

Even back to '64', the 157T flywheel weighs the same as off a new '93'. It's the balance that changed in '82-83' from the 28 oz to the 50 oz. You want a lighter weight flywheel, have to go with the alum one. Difference in acceration is the cam/computer mostly. Like you did mention, all depends on wants and needs for the swap. If I used a 5.0L of any kind with over 100K miles on it, i'd sure rebuild it to what ever specs I would want. Hard to believe but the counter weight balance on a 157 T is almost the same as a 164 T. It's not the weight but the balance.
Dave of the Nord

 

[--weezl--]

Even back to '64', the 157T flywheel weighs the same as off a new '93'. It's the balance that changed in '82-83' from the 28 oz to the 50 oz. You want a lighter weight flywheel, have to go with the alum one. Difference in acceration is the cam/computer mostly. Like you did mention, all depends on wants and needs for the swap. If I used a 5.0L of any kind with over 100K miles on it, i'd sure rebuild it to what ever specs I would want. Hard to believe but the counter weight balance on a 157 T is almost the same as a 164 T. It's not the weight but the balance.
Dave of the Nord

there is a vehicle ford made, that had half a harmonic ballancer... it kinda looked like a cam shaft lobe, kinda... it was weird... i forget what it was on, i thought it was a version of the 5L but i could be wrong... i know my 89 5.0HO has a full size balancer...

 

[Mac]

I think this might be what you are describing, came only on the 428 SCJ to make up for the extra weight of the stronger, heaver rods. That's the motor that came with my '69' Cobra but motor, trans long gone.
Dave

 

[--weezl--]

the thing on the right is kinda like what i am talking about, but not quite... it's something like that, then the pulley bolts to the front of that, though it's a slightly different shape...

 

[Mac]

That thing on the right is actually shown 180 degs out of location and fit behind the dampener, slid into the front cover, pulley bolted to the dampener. There were less than 560 of the Fairlanes Fastbacks that came with this motor so they are rare and parts expensive. Can't think of any other motor running something like this.
Dave of the Nord
Edit: Just realized how off the topic of the thread we are getting. Maybe another thread if you want to talk about balance.

 

[--weezl--]

agreed!

so, OP, what are you planning on doing with this truck?

 

[white89ranger]

I want it for a trail ride. I live in utah with alot of cool places all around the state for off roading and what not ghost towns and just cool places.....I like to fly-fish alot too

I'm going to see about buying that car next weekend unless someone thinks thats to much, or if there is something better.

 

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I would focus more on gears, suspension, and tires than on an engine for a trail riding. If you are going to run the Lincoln 302 stock, you could can buy a Ranger with a 4.0 SOHC motor and have the same power without the cost of an engine swap, although if you find a 4.0 with an auto you'll have a crappy transmission. If you are going to build the motor up some, I wouldn't start with a speed density motor from the Lincoln, especially not for $1800.

Here are the prices and a small list of parts you can use... seems obvious to me

$1800 - Lincoln with a speed density motor, and a 2wd AOD.

$1800 or less - Explorer with a 5.0, a 4 wheel drive 4R70W (better than an AOD and doesn't need the output shaft switched!), radiator, FEAD, wiring harness, fuel lines, 8.8" 31 spline rear end with disk brakes. The A/C is easy to use also. Then you can sell the AWD t-case and front differential from the Explorer to buy a t-case for your Ranger.


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[--weezl--]

i was talking to a bunch of people, back in my mustang days, speed density can be converted to maf, for about 150$...

somewhere around a 100$ ECU, plus the sensor, and some wiring...

but i agree, it's best to go with a 4x4/awd motor/trans setup, so you don't have the issue that you're at right now, of not being able to bolt a t-case up to your trans