Removing Water from Fuel System!

[RangerMan64]

And how should I go about removing the water? I was thinking on putting water remover in the tank, run it, then replace fuel filter.

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

dump in a few more bottles of heet and drive it untill almost empty. refuel (from a different station) and change your fuel filter.

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[Mark_88]

You would probably only need about a 5' section of hose and one 5 gallon can if you are siphoning straight off the bottom...it can be a bit difficult to know you're on the bottom without removing the sending unit and using a (non-explosive) flashlight...

I wouldn't count the MAP sensor out completely either...

so you can either drop the tank (not recommended if it's full) or remove the bed...it's not a big job either way, but it certainly is time consuming...and there may be broken bolts and other added expenses that you may need to cover in the process...

There is another option...remove the fuel line under the hood...turn on the key and the high pressure pump will evacuate the tank for you...but you'll need more gas cans that way if you have a full tank...

That's what I do and I've only got a low pressure pump...but it's way better than siphoning...except you won't necessarily get the bottom of the tank if the pick-up is not sitting on the bottom...

 

[RangerMan64]

You would probably only need about a 5' section of hose and one 5 gallon can if you are siphoning straight off the bottom...it can be a bit difficult to know you're on the bottom without removing the sending unit and using a (non-explosive) flashlight...

I wouldn't count the MAP sensor out completely either...

so you can either drop the tank (not recommended if it's full) or remove the bed...it's not a big job either way, but it certainly is time consuming...and there may be broken bolts and other added expenses that you may need to cover in the process...

There is another option...remove the fuel line under the hood...turn on the key and the high pressure pump will evacuate the tank for you...but you'll need more gas cans that way if you have a full tank...

That's what I do and I've only got a low pressure pump...but it's way better than siphoning...except you won't necessarily get the bottom of the tank if the pick-up is not sitting on the bottom...

Will running the pump like that burn it out?

 

[RangerMan64]

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Oh, Thanks Wicked!

 

[Mark_88]

Will running the pump like that burn it out?

shouldn't, as long as there is gas flowing...running it dry might affect it though...

 

[AllanD]

bad.

first, you know topical rubbing alchohol is 30% water, right?

second, rubbing alcohol is isopropyl alcohol. the alcohol you want for displacing water (the kind contained in heet) is methyl alcohol (methanol).

I buy gallon jugs of air-brake antifreeze. its methanol and its cheaper than heet (per gallon of coarse).

Actually the BEST water absorbent "Drygas" isn't Methanol.

Methanol is the worst of the three possibilities

Anhydrous Ethanol would be best, though Denatured alcohol works well
(typically $12/gal)
Second best is anhydrous isopropyl.

Methanol actually absorbs less water than either and if
there is more water than the methanol can absorb the
whole water methanol mixture will drop out of suspension
and sink to the bottom of the tank.

But then again so will pure methanol when there is NO water present.
This is because methanol is not completely soluble in gasoline, it 9is Miscible, but WILL settle out.

Ethanol on the other hand IS soluble in gasoline, but excess water will make it settle out like ethanol will, but it takes more water to make this happen.

Isopropyl alcohol IS completely soluble in gasoline
but doesn't absorb quite as much water.

The "issue" with isopropyl is that dry gas such as "Iso-dry"
typically costs 2-3 times as much as the cheaper methanol products.

You COULD make Methanol based gas drier soluble and stable
in gasoline, but almost nobody does, because it requires a
charming mixture of Toluene, Ethyl Acetate and Acetone to do it.

Add more dry gas and change out your fuel filter.

you MAY need to replace your filter more than once.

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[1996 fordranger 4x4 stx]

I recently fueled up and my truck started running like crap. Fixed it with some Heet water remover. My question is how do I get all of the water out? Although I am able to let it idle now and drive it, it will only go up to 15 mph on a hill that I used to go up at 25 mph(residential). What should I do? Luckily I have all day tomorrow to fix the truck, I just need some help from all you guys.

Thanks, any suggestions are much appreciated!

Going out on a limb here, you stated you filled up at a station THEN had water issues, why are you not putting pressure on the station or threatening to sue or send them an 8 dollar certified/restricted letter stating your concerns and the legal ramifications that will follow if they don't fix the issue.


If you really think you have ALL this water just remove it ( just do it ) you have received a ton of advice so now get what you need to fix the so called water issue

1:Get a couple 5 gallon buckets or empty gas cans.

2:get a section of hose or clear tubing from home depot, 5 feet is fine.

3:Remove gas cap from truck

4:Stick the hose down the tank slowly until you think it is near the bottom.

5:Suck on the hose to start the siphon process ( clear tubing preferred )

6: Fill up buckets or gas cans

7: Start truck until it dies because of lack of gas.

8our in a couple bottles of heet in empty tank

9ut in a couple gallons of FRESH gas to get you to the gas station and fill up

10: Problem solved

 

[OilPatch197]

A Co-worker at my employment had a little S-10, it would not fire. He let it sit out on the employees parking lot for months, and let co-workers try to see if they could get it running. It got spark, got air, come to find out it had bad gas, BUT he drove it on the lot with watered down gas, HOWEVER ONCE HE SHUT OFF THE MOTOR, IT WOULD NOT START UP! Probably as the truck sat the water sunk to the bottom.

If you got a LOT of water in your gas tank, and your sender is obviously sucking off the bottom, how would your truck even start? If my co-workers truck would not start with bad gas, after the water settled.

 

[RangerMan64]

Going out on a limb here, you stated you filled up at a station THEN had water issues, why are you not putting pressure on the station or threatening to sue or send them an 8 dollar certified/restricted letter stating your concerns and the legal ramifications that will follow if they don't fix the issue.

I would, but I would have no way to prove it. Hell, they didn't even give me a damn receipt after I went inside and paid for it. But I could always try it anyways.

Where would I send the letter to? The ARCO headquarters or the station I went to.

 

[Mark_88]

Don't you have small claims court? Hire a lawyer and file suit for about ten times the amount of damage that you experienced (like lost time at work or pain and suffering...blah, blah blah)...maybe you could even go class action...just post an ad in the local paper asking for anyone else to contact you if they've experienced the same thing...takes time, but class actions can get results...

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

OR...instead of getting all typical-american-sue-happy...you could just talk to the fuel station owner about it. the repairs to your truck will be pennies compared to what the station sees in a day...and settling out of court is often in the best interest of larger companies as it usually saves them money in the long run.

safeway was more than happy to cut me a $1300 check when i got seawater-fuel from them.

 

[RangerMan64]

OR...instead of getting all typical-american-sue-happy...you could just talk to the fuel station owner about it. the repairs to your truck will be pennies compared to what the station sees in a day...and settling out of court is often in the best interest of larger companies as it usually saves them money in the long run.

safeway was more than happy to cut me a $1300 check when i got seawater-fuel from them.

This sounds like a great idea! How would the owner know that I bought gas there? The guy behind the counter didn't give me a damn receipt?

 

[Wicked_Sludge]

you might just be SOL in that case. even if you did take it to court, its hearsay...your word against theirs.

i suppose it was a cash purchase, not a swiped debit or credit...

 

[Mark_88]

Yeah, sorry...didn't mean to push the legal angle because I actually hate that approach...but if there is a large outcry the owner would probably try to compensate you more readily...with or without a receipt...

I'd say try to get it going and move on...as long as it doesn't cost you too much to get that done...