Questions about carrier bearing

[Robert Mangrum]

I frequent the Ford service department here locally. The Prevosts we build are a division of Volvo. So they share some electronics with Ford. So anyways. The service manager was outside when I pulled up yesterday. So he came over looking at my truck. So I got him to look at my carrier bearing (me knowing it's getting sloppy.) Long story short he can warranty part but not labor. So parts on the way. Said six weeks.
So researching looks like fairly easy afternoon job. My question is. Does the bearing have to be pressed on, or is it something I can just grease and slide on?

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Unless theyve changed over the years they are press on.

 

[Curious Hound]

Don't know how similar they are. But I did the one on my Superduty pretty easily. No press needed fir that one.

 

[sgtsandman]

The alternative is to get a one piece driveshaft. A spendy alternative but an alternative.

 

[SenorNoob]

Probably silly, but... Since the 2019 Ranger is based on the T6 platform, which was based on 2011 Ranger, how similar are they underneath?

 

[Robert Mangrum]

Probably silly, but... Since the 2019 Ranger is based on the T6 platform, which was based on 2011 Ranger, how similar are they underneath?

Not sure I've never been under one later than my 05 Sport Trac.

 

[Robert Mangrum]

The alternative is to get a one piece driveshaft. A spendy alternative but an alternative.

I've also discovered while looking for an install video. Some guys are saying that the 2 drive shafts are 180° out of phase. Which is what's causing the bearing to wear and the slight vibration everyone is complaining about. So how would I check that?

 

[sgtsandman]

Probably silly, but... Since the 2019 Ranger is based on the T6 platform, which was based on 2011 Ranger, how similar are they underneath?

The 2019+ is very different from the 2011. The 2019 is an improvement over the 2011 in many ways.

I can't say on the European Rangers in the Middle East, since I never worked on one. I did drive a crew cab model a time or two and the interior was very different from either. Being I was deployed at the time, I didn't have time to pop the hood or look underneath.

 

[sgtsandman]

I've also discovered while looking for an install video. Some guys are saying that the 2 drive shafts are 180° out of phase. Which is what's causing the bearing to wear and the slight vibration everyone is complaining about. So how would I check that?

I haven't looked that far in to it. The truck has been fine so far and it's kind of a let a sleeping dog lie type of deal. I'm hoping to get what I want done to the 2011 before doing any deep digging into the 2019. Getting rid of the two piece driveshaft is on the want list. Assuming the transmission behaves itself.

Funny how GM isn't having any problems with the same transmission like Ford is...

 

[Ranger850]

I've also discovered while looking for an install video. Some guys are saying that the 2 drive shafts are 180° out of phase. Which is what's causing the bearing to wear and the slight vibration everyone is complaining about. So how would I check that?

Phase angle is the relative rotational position of each yoke on a driveshaft or coupling shaft. When the yoke ears are in line with each other, this is referred to as “in phase”. “Out of phase” shaft assemblies have lug ears that are not in alignment at both ends, but are offset by a prescribed angle.Sep 29, 2017
JOI-TEC-082 DRIVELINE PHASING SERVICE/TECHNICAL

If your shaft is 180* out of phase, remove one piece and rotate it 180*, making sure the yoke ears are aligned and take it for a test run. If it gets worse, undo what you just did. If it gets better, they were right.

 

[Curious Hound]

If your shaft is 180* out of phase, remove one piece and rotate it 180*, making sure the yolk ears are aligned and take it for a test run. If it gets worse, undo what you just did. If it gets better, they were right.

You probably mean 90 degrees out of phase. 180 would still ne out of phase by 90 degrees.

These shafts may be out of phase by some strange amount due to a manufacturing flaw. They could be 13.7 degrees out if phase or 45 degrees or 26.9 degrees, or whatever. It would still be wrong. But you may not get it to line up just by rotating in increments of the splines in the slip joint. For example; if you have 20 splines, then rotating by one spline changes the relationship by 18 degrees. But if it's off 13.7 degrees, it's still not right. However, that might get the vibration down to imperceptible levels.




Or make it worse.

 

[Ranger850]

You probably mean 90 degrees out of phase.

I probably do, but those were his numbers, not mine

Some guys are saying that the 2 drive shafts are 180° out of phase.

 

[Robert Mangrum]

I probably do, but those were his numbers, not mine

Man this my first time. I just saw it in the YouTube haha. I've never messed with a carrier bearing before. I do have a slight vibration around 73 to 75mph. But I hardly ever get up that fast. So I probably won't be messing with it. I'll check and make sure the yokes line up in the morning. But I've got 6 weeks to figure it out. If they are correct on back order time frame.

 

[Ranger850]

I've done Carrier bearing for Nissans sevearl times. they are much simpler than the Ranger set up. I just recently did My '87 D21 and it took a lot of the vibrations out. IF it only vibrates at 70-75 mph, I would look into tire balanceing also.

 

[Josh B]

I marked mine off with a wood lumber chalk and put it back accordingly, don't recall anything being pressed.
I've pulled it now so many times I lost count but still use the same marks.
I drop the rear shaft bearing and all