Performance Stuff

[RedneckRanger69]

No i mean't "2 Fast 2 Furious" as in Too Ricer Like to me, like, Im not the one to get a NOS kit. Im an all engine kind of guy, I dont wanna have to spend a bunch of money refillein my NOS tank every couple of weeks. Plus, I see alot of people break their shit with NOS because they don't use it properly.

 

[RedneckRanger69]

what do ya'll think 1.7 roller rockers would do? Im definetely gonna clean up my stuff for free, thats for sure, lol.

 

[bigcountry]

not to sure about the roller rockers they clam it adds i think it was about 10hp but the only benefit i can see to get them is because it reduces wear or so it says on the valve springs and such but like i said im not sure about them id like to know what yall think of them too

 

[graff104]

Changing from 1.6 rocker to 1.7 roller rockers will help. going to just 1.6 roller rockers won't do a whole lot.

 

[Gotta_gofast]

Rockers made a difference in power for me, along with reduced engine noise and more effortless revs. But that was the most recent mod I've done to my 3.0L. I don't know what the added lift would really make a difference with stock manifolds and intake but I upgraded to the '98 intake (P&P upper/lower) BBK 56mm tb, MAC cai first. After a couple months, I installed an electric fan and underdrive pulley. Then just a couple months ago came JBA headers and shortly after the rockers. The underdrive pulley and electric fan helped out all around with extra power from idle all the way to redline. The intake didn't do much until after 2500rpm, then the engine pulled harder. When the headers came, I noticed the ability to climb hills without even downshifting to 4th gear. And with the rockers came a whole new fun factor.

I also opted recently for a locker (being a 4x4 I had to) and just the other day I was able to whip a donut in the parking lot on dry pavement. So, its got plenty of nut for me for a daily driver that pulls 22mpg.

From experience speaking...
Major improvements include
Rogue Roller Rockers
JBA headers
Underdrive pulley/E-fan

Minor improvements include
*Port and Polish intake (especially if running a larger throttle body)
*BBK 56mm throttle body (made for 94-98 3.8L mustangs)
Synthetic fluids in engine, trans, transfer case, axles
*MAC cold air intake
*Removing center brace in MAF sensor

Things that didn't make a difference include
Jet Chip (removed that thing)
Fancy spark plug wires
180* thermostat

*All these items were installed at the same time and did make a big improvement, but by themselves I feel its not much to brag about

 

[4x4fun]

iv been looking for a while, and here is what i have found,

you already have a "cold air intake" on your truck from the factory, but imho the K&n intake will flow more air into your truck. and that helps,

the exhaust didnt do alot, by its self but help, the other stuff, as you make more HP you have to get rid of it some how, dont go larger then 2.5'' or you can get into savaging issues.

i went to an efan, it didnt make horse power, but it will free up parasitic loss,

i also put under drive pullies, crank and alt, best $130 i ever spent. again frees up parasitic loss.

they dont makes cams that i have found thats not a reground. how ever, you have 1.6 rockers (i believe rolling type) the 1.7 rolling rocker, will act like a new cam, and will hold your valves open longer,

as far as the jet chip, i think its bs, if you read the small print, you have to have different things done to your truck for it to work. soo what if you have more, it wont compensate for it. but tuning is a good thing, but that it to a shop, have it dyno tuned.

tb mods and maf mods are good and cheepish or free.

the best way to look at it, the path thur the motor from air filter- tail pipe is always the same. upgrade one part at a time. and figure in the cost to benefit ratio. ie a 9'' cold air, ram air intake is pointless on a 1'' tb. as i see it the "air" part of the air fuel spark has the biggest mod base.

you have the intake, maf the tb, p and p, rolling rockers. and a spark plug hasnt even fired yet.

just my 2 cents

 

[RedneckRanger69]

Im thinkin about totally taking off my stock air intake, and replacing it with a bunch of goodies, such as a Jet mass air flow sensor, a performance throttle body, and throttle body spacer, the thing is I can't find a good performance throttle body for the 3.0L. What is the stock throttle body mm size, and if I wanna by a performance throttle body, which one should I get, Like I've searched, and I cant find anything for the 3.0L, Im also thinkin about doing a new cam, the thing is, Idk wat to get, Like I dont know any of the exact measurements of my stock system, If I was to get a new cam, what should I get. I think a couple of ya'll 3.0L owners might know wat I should get. Im also already in the process of replacing my stock 1.6 ratio roller rockers with 1.7 ratio roller rockers from www.stuffforyourranger.com. I don't wat kind of performance increases I can get from doing all of this, I was wonderin if any of yall know. I just wanna know wat im gonna get for my money. If theres any other good performance mods that ya'll know, keep throwin em out at me. All of ya'lls help will be much apprieciated.

 

[RedneckRanger69]

Im definately doin the underdrive pulleys and all that too.

 

[FordMan016]

why is it only people that know nothing about nitrous don't like it, and have it in there head that if they use it they will automaticly blow up there motor.

for me i know a bit about it just personality lots of power can be made with out the juice but when you done all there is for all motor then juice it.

and for my dislike for it, its from drag race vet's that had some stories.

 

[RedneckRanger69]

I agree with FordMan, If u wanna put NOS on ur ranger, make sure uve done every single internal engine modication u can b4 u juice it. Ive seen people with stock or slightly modified engines with NOS, and they end up pushing beyond the limit and they blow their engine to pieces. I already know if u keep the NOS pressure under 7 psi on a stock engine, u should b ok, but about 99.9% of us wanna up the dose because we wanna see how far they can push the limit. Ive seen it too m,any times, and I personally believe that I myself, wuld end up pushing the limits if i had NOS in my ranger. Its the nature of basically all drivers to try and push the boundaries.

 

[Gotta_gofast]

I highly suggest steering clear of a camshaft swap. Its not as simple as bolting on a "useless" throttlebody spacer. Not being a douche bag, but a cam swap requires a bit of engine know-how. Also, a cam will require new engine management parameteres. Basically, you'll have to invest in a SCT programmer and you will need dyno time... no preset tunes for something that radical.

To fill you in about our 3.0L Vulcan V6... here's some strong points (and weak ones too)
Cam/roller lifters provides plenty of power from 2500-5500rpm factory. Intake work and full exhaust work will show you that. Also, 1.7:1 roller rockers help a lot. Any more of a radical cam would raise the powerband higher, resulting in poor driving.
Cylinder heads flow very well (for the 3.50"x3.14" cylinder it feeds) all the way to the 5500rpm redline. A street port and polish job will help, but anything more is recommended for serious performers (where other options like turbos and V8s are better options).
The bottom end holds up to a lot of abuse. Any and all bolt on mods will not blow up the bottom end unless there was a problem to begin with. The motor will handle nitrous oxide if used responsibly and cautiously.
The ignition system ford uses is reliable and powerful. A tune up will help, but I wouldn't invest too much in aftermarket components unless you increase the cylinder pressure.
Some things that need work are the stock manifolds. They choke these engines. An engine that likes its upper powerband paired with manifolds that favor low end torque do not mix. Headers are an expensive fix, but its a tried and true bolt on performance part.
I notice ford has a lot of casting flaws/flash within the lower intake manifold runners. Clean it up.
Gears, although not engine related, I'm going to put under weak point for the 3.0L. With most 2wd 3.0s getting 3.45:1 gears (and even 3.73:1) one of the biggest upgrades is swapping in for some 4.10:1 gears.

To keep me from blabbing on about all the different options and directions you could go, lets narrow it down to what YOU want from this. Tell us what your goals and expectations are, and we can share our opinions with you.

 

[mixwell]

Sounds like the OP's goals are to win a pissing contest but he has the wrong vehicle to do so... If you wana own ricer's you should throw in a 302.. None of these mods in my opinion are going to do you any good if you have a legit hooked up ricer that is trying to race.. You can save some cash by not giving a shit about who is trying to race and what they think of you as you drive a truck which is not meant to perform like a race car from the factory...

The mods listed will help in performance but don't expect your truck to be a hot rod in a 3.slow engine with mods. I think the "ricers" that race a 3.0 ranger want to stroke their ego's by beating a truck that wasn't meant for speed.. I would suggest rolling down your window and flipping them off and say " Hey bitch can you go over an 8" speed bump @ 10MPH+ ?" i hate that diagonal approach to a ****ing speed bump and slowing down to 2mph.. I used to live around a lot of asians who would do that and it pisses me off. (personal experience)

 

[coffee]

As you can see, I've been there, done that. I have a lot more fun now with my set up but I would like more. With the right gearing and tires, you.ll surprise some folks (got one of those coffee can ricers yesterday). It's a good bit of money, but I think it's worth it. I drive 600 miles a week going back and forth to work, it breaks up the monotany. Spent all my money with stuffforyourranger, rougeperformance and jegs.

 

[RedneckRanger69]

O I roll down my window and flip em off all the time. Im not only tryin to race ricers, I want a bit of extra power so I can pull a 15 and a half foot jon boat with a 25 horsepower 4-stroke yamaha outboard on the back, along with a bunch of of other stuff in it such as a livewell or a rod locker to the lake and back every weekend, Im an avid fisherman. If I had a bit of extra power I wuldn't have to worry about towing the boat so much. I already do tow with the engine pretty much stock except for a cat-back exhaust system and a cold air intake, and I can tell that my engine is having alot of trouble haulin my boat around. I need more torque and power for this application. Im already about to do a gear swap to 4.10's, so that'll help a little bit, but Im gonna need a little more, just because I like having the extra power in the vehicle when I wanna have it, and so I can tow my boat, and not worry about it so much. Racing ricers is just an extra thing I've gotta deal with, because, yes, I do live around alot of asians, and all of their teenage kids having riced out Hondas. My family is like the only one in the neighborhood that drives trucks, I have a 2001 Ford Ranger XLT, and my dad drives a 2002 Ford F-250 4x4 with the 7.3 L Powerstroke Turbo Diesel that is lifted 8 inches, and has 35's on it. We are the only rednecks in the neighborhood, and were damn proud of it, we keep the american and rebel flag hangin in our front yard, it ain't hate, its heritage.

 

[RedneckRanger69]

I think I should have actually started this thread by sayin that I needed extra torque and power for towing my boat instead of racing ricers.