MMA/UFC fans.

[93STX]

That is true. I do a little bit of mma myself; muay-thai, jiu-jitsu and wrestling. I never wrestled in school but they said I'm one hell of a natural wrestler(my wrestling coach is a high school wrestling coach), so I can take a lot of jiu-jitsu guys down and over power them. But, if they put me on my back or catch an arm... I'm totally screwed.

 

[DCarey515]

I really dont care for GSP, but hes gonna beat the snot out of BJ Penn no doubt.
You can usually find a live feed on MMAhacks.com

 

[tpking]

i have to go with BJ penn since matt hughes isnt in it lmao .. freakin canadians

 

[jgrnot]

Geoges' riddum will be too much for Penn this time around.

GSP via ground-and-pound TKO third or fourth round.

 

[Hypnotic Toast]

Everyone underestimates Baby Jay. I think he's got GSP.

I'm a huge MMA fan and I've got a few friends who actually do MMA fighting here in town, the state of Indiana and the surrounding states. I love it, I can't get enough. I'm actually at a friends house on my laptop and we're watching it now.

And neither one of them would stand a chance against Anderson Silva. That man is God in the octagon.

 

[kscull70]

GSP is going to wipe the mat clean with penn

 

[jgrnot]

I told you TKO GNP third or fourth round. Fight finished at end of fourth. BJ QUIT!!!!! After all the bragging about how GSP quit against Serra?

 

[sweetwaterbroncoII]

BJ Penn is useless....unless you just want someone who can run his mouth and can't fight for shit.

 

[240cubes]

i would seriously not want to cross unfriendly paths with gsp, that guys a fuggin animal

 

[dru]

BJ Penn is useless....unless you just want someone who can run his mouth and can't fight for shit.

he'd kick your ass. ill bet on that.

He was definitely outclassed in the ground game. I think he underestimated GSP's ability to take him down and impose his will. Hes a friggin MONSTER!!!

 

[littleme13]

didnt watch the fight but as i suspected from what ive read in this thread brazilian jiu-jitzu is worthless against a wrestler. the problem lies in the way it is taught. most fighters are taught brazilian and if you read about it and the Gracie family it is a point sport only. gracie jiu-jizu is what works in this style of fighting. the gracie family early on turned what was a fighting style only to gain points into something that can be used to inflict pain into an opponent and actually win a actual fight. for those who havent i would suggest reading the actuall Gracie website about this. it puts a whole new perspective on what that family has done. it was this reason that the army uses the Gracie style in thier hand to hand combat versues the original brazilian jiu-jitzu.

 

[dru]

didnt watch the fight but as i suspected from what ive read in this thread brazilian jiu-jitzu is worthless against a wrestler. the problem lies in the way it is taught. most fighters are taught brazilian and if you read about it and the Gracie family it is a point sport only. gracie jiu-jizu is what works in this style of fighting. the gracie family early on turned what was a fighting style only to gain points into something that can be used to inflict pain into an opponent and actually win a actual fight. for those who havent i would suggest reading the actuall Gracie website about this. it puts a whole new perspective on what that family has done. it was this reason that the army uses the Gracie style in thier hand to hand combat versues the original brazilian jiu-jitzu.

this is widely known. most of the guys training at reputable MMA gyms are trained in the Gracie or very similar slightly modified style.

 

[Nipplechops]

BJ QUIT!!!!!

Yeah, that he did. I couldn't believe he simply gave up. I lost a ton of respect for him last night.

he'd kick your ass. ill bet on that.

I'd take that bet too. BJ has fought the world's best. He beat Renzo Gracie back in 2005 at 185lb and lost a decision shortly thereafter to Lyoto Machida at 205lb (a fight he weighed in at the minimum 186lb for the division).

Once again Penn's ego got in the way of his training. His cardio was trashed after the first round.

didnt watch the fight but as i suspected from what ive read in this thread brazilian jiu-jitzu is worthless against a wrestler. the problem lies in the way it is taught. most fighters are taught brazilian and if you read about it and the Gracie family it is a point sport only. gracie jiu-jizu is what works in this style of fighting. the gracie family early on turned what was a fighting style only to gain points into something that can be used to inflict pain into an opponent and actually win a actual fight. for those who havent i would suggest reading the actuall Gracie website about this. it puts a whole new perspective on what that family has done. it was this reason that the army uses the Gracie style in thier hand to hand combat versues the original brazilian jiu-jitzu.

Umm, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu IS Brazillian Jiu Jitsu. The entire art was born out of Judo and traditional Japanese Jujutsu, which isn't a point sport; it was an art of hand to hand combat used by Samurais to kill. Helio Gracie (R.I.P.) developed BJJ under the goal of creating a grappling art that could be used by a small opponent against a much larger one.

BJJ is a very effective martial art, but it isn't anywhere close to perfect. It is still a sport, just like Judo. There are many ways to nullify a BJJ offense and the easiest being not allowing yourself to be taken down. I train in both Judo and BJJ and have rolled with some slick practicioners of both arts. One thing I can tell you from first hand experience is the lack of focus on stand up grappling that BJJ encompasses. Judo on the other hand has a strong focus in that area, but lacks the ground work intricacy of BJJ. Well, unless you are schooled in Kosen Judo, which is the Mecca of ground fighting technique.

I recommend that anyone try a grappling based art. Judo changed my life and Jiu Jitsu did much the same.

 

[sweetwaterbroncoII]

he'd kick your ass. ill bet on that.

He was definitely outclassed in the ground game. I think he underestimated GSP's ability to take him down and impose his will. Hes a friggin MONSTER!!!

Just as he would kick yours. I never said that I could kick his ass, now did I? Just said that he is useless.

 

[93STX]

BJ didn't quit. The ringside physician called it.