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if you could have your parking brake on the front instead of the rear wheels?


I have a parking brake for my truck but cannot use it due to it not locking -_- anyone know why this happens? I do have this spring that was under my seat here:
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it is broken as i found out as i was taking this picture. Is this for my parking brake? also any ideas on how to fix it?

That spring is from your seat. I bet your seat doesn't adjust it's position too well, does it?

You parking ratchet is probably stripped. That's the most common cause for them to not hold.
 
That spring is from your seat. I bet your seat doesn't adjust it's position too well, does it?

You parking ratchet is probably stripped. That's the most common cause for them to not hold.

Actually both seats work fine i was originally i thought it was part of the seat setup, so unless the previous owner replaced it and decided to leave it there, i don't know what else.
 
I had a couple early 80's subaru dl wagons and yea they had the parking brakes up front hooked to the calipers with cables.
 
used as a parking break i dont think it would really matter too much, obviously that would be terrible if you decide to use it as an "emergency" break and lock up the front, dont put it on the rear if you have drums though you will destroy them
 
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A Ranger with drums will stop just fine with just a parking brake. I can't be the only guy that's ripped his brake lines out on a trail...

My Navajo will lock up the tires easy with the parking brake, and the parking brake holds it on a hill just fine, forward or reverse. And when I say hill, I mean the sides of the gigantic frozen snowbanks I've been using as parking spots all winter as our college parking lot is so crowded I don't even bother to find proper parking anymore. A properly adjusted cable brake with drum brakes in good repair will hold better than the tires will.

The jeep guys here at school have been jealous all winter 'cuz none of them can climb up the snowbanks, hehe.
 
Personally, the only thing I'd change from my 88 being in the rear would be to remove the foot pedal and put in a hand brake. I was going to do just that before I parked it five years ago...and lost the hand brake assembly that I'd taken out of a Tempo...

The stupid pedal on the kick panel somehow manages to snag my pant leg now and then...and if it sticks when down (as it is currently doing) I can't reach over with my hand to click it back up because you have to get both hands in there somehow (or use the left foot which works as long as I'm not holding in the clutch to keep it running)...I'm going to fix it so that it pops back up...but that's another project...still working on the heater blower...
 
Be advised that a "secondary braking device" must be in place on every vehicle. This secondary braking device cannot be hydraulic in function and must be mechanical for reliability in case the hydraulic system fails. If you go for an inspection, it will fail if you don't have a parking/emergency brake.

Also, the line lock will fail faster if you're using it for a parking brake. Read the instructions from the manufacturers. Most are only designed to hold for short periods of time. It might not be too bad in cold weather, but those solenoids get hot if used for too long. If it kills your battery while you're parked on a hill, what's going to happen when there's no more voltage left to hold the line lock?

And yes, the parking brake is designed to allow a vehicle to be stopped using nothing but it. I'm not saying slamming on the brake as hard as you can, but regulating it so you stop as gently as possible in an emergency (like when your primary brakes fail). I know that the likelyhood of this happening is slim, but it can, and has, happened.
 
A Ranger with drums will stop just fine with just a parking brake. I can't be the only guy that's ripped his brake lines out on a trail...

My Navajo will lock up the tires easy with the parking brake, and the parking brake holds it on a hill just fine, forward or reverse. And when I say hill, I mean the sides of the gigantic frozen snowbanks I've been using as parking spots all winter as our college parking lot is so crowded I don't even bother to find proper parking anymore. A properly adjusted cable brake with drum brakes in good repair will hold better than the tires will.

The jeep guys here at school have been jealous all winter 'cuz none of them can climb up the snowbanks, hehe.

Yeah, mine worked fine for limping it around the driveway when I blew a rear brakeline last summer.
 
Be advised that a "secondary braking device" must be in place on every vehicle. This secondary braking device cannot be hydraulic in function and must be mechanical for reliability in case the hydraulic system fails. If you go for an inspection, it will fail if you don't have a parking/emergency brake.

i was a state-certified vehicle safety inspector up until recently, i know that and much more when it comes to what "must be in place"......the purpose of this thread was not about that

Also, the line lock will fail faster if you're using it for a parking brake. Read the instructions from the manufacturers. Most are only designed to hold for short periods of time. It might not be too bad in cold weather

i have used line-locks for this very purpose in the past........

what's going to happen when there's no more voltage left to hold the line lock?

again, done this before, and besides this it will be used more for when the vehicle is idling in neutral as being in-gear works in most situations. if its running the alternator will make more than enough power.

and lastly allow me to take this opportunity to thank you for posting a 3-paragraph-long reply to this thread, all the while not managing to answer my question, :icon_thumby:
 
and lastly allow me to take this opportunity to thank you for posting a 3-paragraph-long reply to this thread, all the while not managing to answer my question, :icon_thumby:


Haha, gotta love that hey!

If it were mine, I would install it on the front brakes, like you stated the Pbrake on the rear axle can work with that front mico lock to help hold the vehicle when winching or what/when ever the need is to hold the vehicle in place. Having the added engine weight over the front wheels will also help hold better too.

I think with all 4 wheels locked you would have the best of both worlds when it comes to holding the vehicle in place securely. I too plan on installing a mico lock in my wheeler, however, mine having spools front and rear i doubt it will really matter which line I put the lock in as long as it's in 4wd.

I have seen these mico locks with dual hookups so you can run it inline with both front and rear brake systems if that interests you at all.

At least with a 4wd you can always just put it in 4wd when you park it to help even if you just had the rear drum Pbrake functional (no mico lock), same can be said with a mico lock on the front wheels and the vehicle in low gear engine off. The more wheels holding the better imo. Since the rear axle will already have a Pbrake system, it only makes sense to install the mico lock on the front axle.
 
At least with a 4wd you can always just put it in 4wd when you park it to help even if you just had the rear drum Pbrake functional (no mico lock), same can be said with a mico lock on the front wheels and the vehicle in low gear engine off. The more wheels holding the better imo. Since the rear axle will already have a Pbrake system, it only makes sense to install the mico lock on the front axle.

I thought about that too, but then it is all up two the two drums to keep it in place. I know going backwards they don't have the greatest holding power.
 
Drum brakes have better holding power then discs, when adjusted properly. Ask any foot-brake racer and they will tell you that with drums you can stage at a higher RPM then with discs. Thats where I would want my "parking brake".

As far as actually stopping, yes, discs are much better. They experience less fade, they cool much faster, they will self-clean when you get mud in them, they dont stick as easily after sitting for long periods, but for holding a stopped vehicle, drums are better.

I vote for 2 line locks, both front and rear. :icon_thumby:
 
i was a state-certified vehicle safety inspector up until recently, i know that and much more when it comes to what "must be in place"......the purpose of this thread was not about that

Whoopie!! Next time state that and maybe someone won't remind you about it.



i have used line-locks for this very purpose in the past........

Just because you've done this in the past doesn't mean that the solenoids are designed for it, nor does it mean they'll last.



again, done this before, and besides this it will be used more for when the vehicle is idling in neutral as being in-gear works in most situations. if its running the alternator will make more than enough power.

Again...maybe you should state this. Not everyone can be a baller like you and afford to let your truck run 24/7



and lastly allow me to take this opportunity to thank you for posting a 3-paragraph-long reply to this thread, all the while not managing to answer my question, :icon_thumby:

Anytime. But I never jumped on you....so I hope you were expecting a smart ass answer back.
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Mount it in the rear. That way if it something goes wrong and it locks up while on the highway, it's going to be alot more predictable in handling.
 

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