i watched people die on tv

[scott5640]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW017qv0aJI

 

[NMB2]

i guess being in the military and being deployed it changes your perspective on things. Although i dont want to die for my country and im really not willing, I am however willing to help the enemy die for his. Its hard to civilians to truely embrace this ( i know beause i once was one) but for a soldier the most important thing is mission first, and protecting your battle buddy, and when you lose one its horrible. I personally have not lost any yet and i hope i never do, but its just part of the deal. And it isnt just special frces that through this, its basically every single unit in the military from infantry to engineers to cav, ect. I know lots of people that got hit by IED's, in IRAQ my friend next to me almost shot a little boy that pulled a gun out. The realities of what actually happens there on a daily basis and to almost everyone is actually probably shocking to most civilians in america, and they cant comprehend it and they really dont NEED to know about it and what its like.

 

[feellnfroggy]

National Geographic is all about delivering acurate accounts. The footage may be disturbing but it brings the point across. It gives the viewer in his home an idea of what is really going on out there. I know it is hard to take but Nat Geo is excellent and I for one hope they keep up the good work of educating!

National Geographic certainly does do a good job. However certain people dont join the military for a reason and there are certain things that civilians dont need to see. There is no place for the media in a combat zone. People nowawdays are all about watching death and gore and such. But too many people think our soldiers are a good place to see it. Me personally let us do our job and all you need to do is be thankful. If you were meant to see the horros then you would have been there. If it hadnt been for the media alot more vets would have been taken care of after vietnam. Instead of receiveing the abuses they get. I was in Iraq and I can tell you right now from personal experience the media Whether NG or any other show still manages to put a slight spin on war and death. In the end people still died, loved ones were lost. Be thankful, but dont be so eager to know 'what its like'. If you cant help it join a service.

 

[sr975j]

i saw that show about the green berets last night also, i have the same thougts about it as you....it was kinda messed up

 

[naford]

I disagree. If you remember back to when we first went into Iraq. The news was showing footage of Humvees with make shift armor put on. The media asked why the troops weren't getting up armored Humvees. The truth of the matter was that the war was being run like a bussiness not like a war. What did happen is that the company that was making the armor for the Humvees instead of working 40 hour work weeks start running 24/7. Without the american public seeing this it would have been bussiness as usual.
You have to make war expensive. It has to be a shared sacrifice.

 

[feellnfroggy]

Not True. The uparmour was being built as soon as the body count started piling up. It had nothing to do with the media. It takes so long to build a truck though that by the time enough trucks were built to serve the needs, the media was involved by then and everyone thinks it was americas complaints that fueled it. Its just not the case. The media is over the Iraq thing and to this day they are still modding the armour on these vehicles. When I left in 07 they were on theyre 5th frag kit for the humvee.

 

[NMB2]

Not True. The uparmour was being built as soon as the body count started piling up. It had nothing to do with the media. It takes so long to build a truck though that by the time enough trucks were built to serve the needs, the media was involved by then and everyone thinks it was americas complaints that fueled it. Its just not the case. The media is over the Iraq thing and to this day they are still modding the armour on these vehicles. When I left in 07 they were on theyre 5th frag kit for the humvee.

absolutly correct. There are so many modifications we have on the humvee's that 90% probably would never know exsisted. Media has nothing to do with it. It just takes awhile to do these things, we dont have magic.

 

[naford]

I never wrote they weren't getting uparmored humvees I wrote they were not getting them fast enough.

Third paragrah down http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6699553/
Last 3 paragraphs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6689062/ns/nightly_news/
The whole story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6676765/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

 

[NMB2]

I never wrote they weren't getting uparmored humvees I wrote they were not getting them fast enough.

Third paragrah down http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6699553/
Last 3 paragraphs http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6689062/ns/nightly_news/
The whole story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6676765/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

what do you do for a living?

 

[Ranger Dave (B25)]

...and why do you look for your information from PMSNBC?

If you remember back to when we first went into Iraq. The news was showing footage of Humvees with make shift armor put on. The media asked why the troops weren't getting up armored Humvees.

Yeah, you did.