i need advice

[cushion101990]

i know the coil springs are set up side down but the rand coils are to small around to fit on the xj perches.

 

[4x4junkie]

i dont see why jeep xj coils wouldnt work on a ranger. they are both very close in weight and according to uhaul, they are both 3700#.

Yeah, but the Jeep is close to a 50/50% weight distribution, a Supercab Ranger (assuming via the avatar) is more like 63/37% (and can get beyond 65% after adding big winch bumpers, batteries, etc).

A D30 isn't really up to having that much weight on it either, the gears and housing are too weak.

 

[c_note]

A D30 isn't really up to having that much weight on it either, the gears and housing are too weak.

i hear that alot on this forum but my buddy runs a dana 30 on his cj-7 with a 360 v8. his rig weighs right around 4000# and the only thing he breaks on that thing is bellhousings and t-5 trannies. hes running 4.88 gears with 35" boggers and beats the living hell out of it. hes never had a problem with his ring and pinion or axle housing.

 

[JohnnyU]

i hear that alot on this forum but my buddy runs a dana 30 on his cj-7 with a 360 v8. his rig weighs right around 4000# and the only thing he breaks on that thing is bellhousings and t-5 trannies. hes running 4.88 gears with 35" boggers and beats the living hell out of it. hes never had a problem with his ring and pinion or axle housing.

Well, everyone throughout history and on the internet must be wrong then...

 

[cushion101990]

i know wat a dana 30 is for. my truck is onlly a daily driver and i wheel it once a month. im going no bigger than 33s and see no reason why a dana 30 with new gears, axe shafts, and a few other parts wont stay together. my buddy has a xj on 38 with a dana 30 and only brakes u joints. but my question is due to the extra wieght should i use xj coils or should i get some full size coils?

 

[c_note]

i only hear of the dana 35 bearking ring gears and pinions. the dana 30 breaks when these jackass prerunner wanna-bes jump the jeep and break the housing. never is it a ring or pinion on a dana 30 hp.

 

[cushion101990]

exactly and i only do light wheeling nothing serious. no lockers just want 4.56 gears. alloy axle shafts or spicer heavy duty shafts.

 

[cushion101990]

but really guys i need some advice as to which coils to run. i need to clear 33's on 10" rims with no body lift. is a xj coil strong enough to hold up the heavy ranger or should i get some f150 coils or something? i really need some insight from some of you sas guys. what are you runnning with the sas dana 44????

 

[JohnnyU]

Dude, use the fawking search. You're not the first person to have attempted this.... In fact, I would venture to guess that you aren't even in the top 100 people that have done this. It's been covered here and elsewhere on the internet hundreds of times.

Quick answer:
1) Skip the Dana 30 for a Dana 44.
2) Use EB coils.

 

[4x4junkie]

I'm curious why you're wanting to swap to a D30? The axle you have under there now likely is stronger than any D30 (unless you have the POS "hybrid" D28/35 diff), you're taking a downgrade by doing that. If you MUST swap the axle for whatever reason, use a D44 at minimum.

Also FWIW, putting alloy shafts in a 30 pretty much guarantees the gears will fail before anything else. With stock shafts, it's about a 50/50 chance. IMO, I'd rater break a shaft than gears.

i hear that alot on this forum but my buddy runs a dana 30 on his cj-7 with a 360 v8. his rig weighs right around 4000# and the only thing he breaks on that thing is bellhousings and t-5 trannies. hes running 4.88 gears with 35" boggers and beats the living hell out of it. hes never had a problem with his ring and pinion or axle housing.

You hear that here or on any other RBV forum because of the weight distribution thing I already mentioned that you cut out while quoting my post.

 

[Will]

exactly and i only do light wheeling nothing serious. no lockers just want 4.56 gears. alloy axle shafts or spicer heavy duty shafts.

If you only do light wheeling what's the point of messing with any of it?

And Junkie, you should know that editing quotes is the key to success for newsmen, PhD dissertations and attorneys. It's the whole point in Mark Twains "There's lies, damn lies and statistics." Serve it up how you want and use it for evidence.

 

[c_note]

id rather use the xj coils cuz damn i had a stiff ride. thats why im trashing my torsion bars. make sure you have your bump stop installed.

 

[cushion101990]

thanks c note and youl others obviouslly dont read the whole thread... i said i fawking search but didnt find wat i was looking for. most people swap for the dana 44 there fore there isnt nearly as much info as the 44. and yes i have read all the forums i have found dealing with sas. and i read all the tech pages on sas. i ask a simple question about coils and weight and yall change the subject about a dana 44 and how much your wasting my money. my ifs system is a piece of junk and is broke. sure i kno the dana 44 is a much better decision but since i know i will never run over 33's i am not putting it in and i got the dana 30 for free. if i were building something i beat the crap out of out on the trails i would put a 44 and a bigger rear end in, but im not so the dana suits my 33*12.50 light trail riding ranger just fine.

 

[Ozwynn]

if its going into that 95 in your avatar then you don't have IFS, you have TTB and junkie and will have forgotten more about troubleshooting TTB problems than most of us can hope to learn in a life time. You want to switch to an inferior axle thats your choice, for light wheeling I would use big bronco coils (pre 1980) or you could ask a few questions and trouble shoot your TTB and get it straightened out and keep a superior set up.


and just because an axle was free does not make it a good choice. trade your free axle for a D44 or a D60...........

 

[cushion101990]

alright bdab thanks. could anyone tell me ways to upgrade the ttb?? it would be much appreciated.