yeah....I couldn't figure out how it would be empty, when they picked up the van a couple months ago after sitting for 3years, they put a battery and started right up, they drove it approx 20miles to their house, the next day I went to move it to see how it drove and all a sudden it was like I had no gears and I checked the fluid and it was empty so maybe something broke internally? Could it be a front seal? I mean I can't give much info til probably tonight when she gets tranny fluid I'll have to start it up and see if I see leaks anywhere. Anymore ideas as to how it could have gotten so low to be nothing.