Gentlemen, I return to the fold.

[adsm08]

A “hair drier” is what us old guys called turbo chargers back in the day. I know it is all on me, but I will never own anything with a turbo on it. There is no replacement for displacement.

Well technically. But displacement is all about how much air you can get in. If you can get more air into a smaller engine.... well you don't need to same cubes to make the same power.

 

[heptofite]

A “hair drier” is what us old guys called turbo chargers back in the day. I know it is all on me, but I will never own anything with a turbo on it. There is no replacement for displacement.

heck maybe but this thing pulls harder than any V6 ranger or B2 i've driven.

 

[HenryMac]

heck maybe but this thing pulls harder than any V6 ranger or B2 i've driven.

We've owned ours since September and every time we drive the truck I'm impressed with just how much hp / torque the motor produces.

The reality is most of the folks that talk smack about the 2019/2020 Rangers have never driven one..... and if they have, not long enough to give it a fair evaluation. We were undecided and told the dealer that. They gave us a Ranger to drive over a weekend. That gave us the chance to do a fair evaluation.

 

[racsan]

well down the road when the turbo craps out, that will be a very expensive part to replace, and if a gas engine designed to use a turbo is anything like a diesel , it aint worth a damn with a dead turbo. Now yes Im comparing a farm tractor (1855 Oliver) to a automotive gas engine, but I sure know how bad the tractor was to run when the turbo on it locked up.

 

[Uncle Gump]

I'm not so sure that sandmans picture is deceiving. I pulled in next to a 2019 the other day and it just dwarfed my 06. They line up is reasonably close on paper... but perception is reality.

I've never driven a Ranger with an Ecoboost… but we own an Escape with one. I haven't driven it much but it sure doesn't feel under powered to me. So my question to the 2019 Ranger owners would be... If you were to trade in your 2019 on a 2023 and there was an optional V6 Ecoboost… would you pick your I4 or up your game to a V6?

Just playing the Devil's advocate with the displacement issue...

 

[sgtsandman]

The power is fine. There is certainly a concern with how the turbo will hold up. If it holds up like the ones on diesels do, then it will be ok. I would still prefer a V6 NA engine.

As far as trading in the 2019 in for a 2023, I doubt it. Depending on what they do with it, I might consider trading in the 2011.

 

[heptofite]

well down the road when the turbo craps out, that will be a very expensive part to replace, and if a gas engine designed to use a turbo is anything like a diesel , it aint worth a damn with a dead turbo. Now yes Im comparing a farm tractor (1855 Oliver) to a automotive gas engine, but I sure know how bad the tractor was to run when the turbo on it locked up.

I had the same engine in my mustang and it didn't give me a lick of trouble and I had nearly 70k on the clock when i traded it in.

This engine has been in mustangs since 2015. If there was going to be a problem we'd have heard about it.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

well down the road when the turbo craps out, that will be a very expensive part to replace, and if a gas engine designed to use a turbo is anything like a diesel , it aint worth a damn with a dead turbo. Now yes Im comparing a farm tractor (1855 Oliver) to a automotive gas engine, but I sure know how bad the tractor was to run when the turbo on it locked up.

It had a stopped turbo plugging the intake.

We have done a couple turbo deletes. They smoke more and the pump needs adjusted but they still run well.

The last one was a John Deere 7700 404 into a 4020. Even without the turbo it has more power than the original 4020 engine.

Keep good oil to them, clean air to them and don’t let them get hot and a turbo will run for decades on a tractor which sees a load cycle no car/pickup engine will withstand.

 

[HenryMac]

So my question to the 2019 Ranger owners would be... If you were to trade in your 2019 on a 2023 and there was an optional V6 Ecoboost… would you pick your I4 or up your game to a V6?

My last truck I kept for 17 years... I'm hoping to keep the Ranger for that long too. As to "upping the game"... it already has class leading towing and hauling capacity with the 4-banger, A V-6 turbo just isn't necessary.

But if they had offered a V-6 without a turbo in the 2019 Ranger, I'd be driving that right now. We bought our truck due to class leading Safety Features... not because of the turbo.

 

[Uncle Gump]

My last truck I kept for 17 years... I'm hoping to keep the Ranger for that long too. As to "upping the game"... it already has class leading towing and hauling capacity with the 4-banger, A V-6 turbo just isn't necessary.

But if they had offered a V-6 without a turbo in the 2019 Ranger, I'd be driving that right now. We bought our truck due to class leading Safety Features... not because of the turbo.

So the answer is yes...

 

[HenryMac]

So the answer is yes...

Only if you either didn't read the question, or don't know what an "Ecoboost" is.

If you were to trade in your 2019 on a 2023 and there was an optional V6 Ecoboost… would you pick your I4 or up your game to a V6?

A V-6 Ecoboost motor has a turbo... hence the term "boost".

 

[adsm08]

I'm not so sure that sandmans picture is deceiving. I pulled in next to a 2019 the other day and it just dwarfed my 06. They line up is reasonably close on paper... but perception is reality.

I've never driven a Ranger with an Ecoboost… but we own an Escape with one. I haven't driven it much but it sure doesn't feel under powered to me. So my question to the 2019 Ranger owners would be... If you were to trade in your 2019 on a 2023 and there was an optional V6 Ecoboost… would you pick your I4 or up your game to a V6?

Just playing the Devil's advocate with the displacement issue...

After seeing how tightly the 2.3EB is stuffed into that engine bay I would not at all consider a V6 of any type, especially one with twin turbos. That would just be a nightmare to work on.

 

[sgtsandman]

I think that is why they want the redesign. There is no room for a V6 otherwise. They way they cram engines in vehicles these days is sadistic. Even with a redesign, I’m sure maintenance will not be fun. I’m pretty sure they do that on purpose so owners will bring their vehicles to the dealer instead of doing the work themselves. Not that it makes the work any better for the tech doing the maintenance. They are just getting paid to deal with the misery instead of doing it for free.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I think that is why they want the redesign. There is no room for a V6 otherwise. They way they cram engines in vehicles these days is sadistic. Even with a redesign, I’m sure maintenance will not be fun. I’m pretty sure they do that on purpose so owners will bring their vehicles to the dealer instead of doing the work themselves. Not that it makes the work any better for the tech doing the maintenance. They are just getting paid to deal with the misery instead of doing it for free.

I don’t think the V6 Ecoboosts are all that much fun to work on in a ‘150...

 

[Uncle Gump]

Only if you either didn't read the question, or don't know what an "Ecoboost" is.


A V-6 Ecoboost motor has a turbo... hence the term "boost".

Oh I know what it is... I said I owned an Ecoboost. I apparently just blew over the part where you said without turbo. My fault. I'm seriously not trying to start an argument here but you still answered my basic question.... if given a choice... you would opt for larger displacement. I also believe the V6 Ecoboost doesn't have a turbo... it has two.

I really ask this because I'm gonna be in the market for a new Bronco in a couple years. If they offer a naturally aspirated V6 option... It will be my choice over anything turbo.