double your gas mileage?

[strvger]

weezl is correct. i apologize, my bad. i misread the title of this thread as saying, "double your gas mileage?".
the guy in the clip was obviously pushing his brand of acetone as most of us would just get it at the local hardware store. what he didn't say, other than turning the car off when idling more than 30 seconds, was his other driving habits changed for the clip.
if he added that much mileage changing plugs and air filter, oil and oil filter, makes me wonder just what kind of care he had been giving it before? and if he threw out the spare, why keep that can of tire sealant as he stated he has a cell and coverage with his insurance?
as his "pure acetone" was so prominently displayed, it was no wonder that it had been flagged for spam previously.
all-in-all, nothing in that clip added up to me. it just reminded me so much of all the previous posts about acetone and the other items in my first response, that i found it sad that people still choose to believe these guys and the stuff they try to sell people. in the old western movies, they would be akin to "snake oil salesmen".
a little more searching would have found real testing that proved these claims to be false, to put it kindly.
bottom line is he had no real verifiable proof that his gas mileage doubled. just his word and the hope we would believe that he didn't stage the gas meter for the vid.
sorry, not good enough for me to risk my engine.

 

[--weezl--]

Calm down. Acetone has been discussed before. He also made a reference to the "turbonator" or "Tornado" bolt on because it's another one of the things that advertises huge gas mileage gains with seemingly now downside. The point he was trying to make was that the topic of acetone has been bright up before. Also, he was trying to save you from yourself (A simple "thank you" should be sufficient).

Also, a 10% gain? That's a maximum of 2mpg with the 4.0SOHC. Is 2mpg worth ruining your vehicle? There's much less risky ways of seeing a 10% gain without adjusting your driving habits:
1. Buy tires with lower rolling resistance, make sure they are properly inflated
2. Buy a tonnaeu cover
3. Maintain your truck religiously

maybe so, but that is NOT the way it came off... it sounded to me like an ignorant response...

honestly, 2mpg gain i think would be worth it... of course the risks are to be taken into consideration, but thus far, i have yet to see any actual proof that there are adverse effects on the motor from acetone... i haven't searched the forum for other discussions about this though...

my tires are fairly good, so i am told, tonneau would be a great idea, although expensive, (want to get one anyways though) and as for maintenance, ford keeps telling me i'm supposed to go 7000km on my oil, but i bring it in 5000 max, so i am totally on the same page as you... when you drive as much as i do, 2mpg is quite a lot... i've had my truck just over a year now (bought sept 26, 09), and i've put almost 40,000km on it (25,000 miles)

 

[--weezl--]

weezl is correct. i apologize, my bad. i misread the title of this thread as saying, "double your gas mileage?".
the guy in the clip was obviously pushing his brand of acetone as most of us would just get it at the local hardware store. what he didn't say, other than turning the car off when idling more than 30 seconds, was his other driving habits changed for the clip.
if he added that much mileage changing plugs and air filter, oil and oil filter, makes me wonder just what kind of care he had been giving it before? and if he through out the spare, why keep that can of tire sealant as he stated he has a cell and coverage with his insurance?
as his "pure acetone" was so prominently displayed, it was no wonder that it had been flagged for spam previously.
all-in-all, nothing in that clip added up to me. it just reminded me so much of all the previous posts about acetone and the other items in my first response, that i found it sad that people still choose to believe these guys and the stuff they try to sell people. in the old western movies, they would be akin to "snake oil salesmen".
a little more searching would have found real testing that proved these claims to be false, to put it kindly.
bottom line is he had no real verifiable proof that his gas mileage doubled. just his word and the hope we would believe that he didn't stage the gas meter for the vid.
sorry, not good enough for me to risk my engine.

ok good point, i will say this in defense of the maker of the video... he does a lot of videos on youtube, they are quite entertaining, they are mostly home inventions, kind of like popular mechanics for kids type deals... but there is stuff like how to fix your dead laptop battery for about $20 (vs the 100$ replacement) he actually works(or worked) for make magazine, and designs the projects in the magazine... nothing i have ever seen him do a video on in the past, has made me wonder if it would work or not, till this, i think he is fairly reputable... but the claims in gas mileage here make me wonder...

if you want to see any of his other stuff, try searching "Kip Kay" on youtube

 

[Sunk]

I'm more interested in how the hell he was getting 17 MPG in a Dodge Neon to begin with.

 

[84stealthranger]

I'm more interested in how the hell he was getting 17 MPG in a Dodge Neon to begin with.

i think its a acura tl but not sure

 

[Tony Raine]

I'm more interested in how the hell he was getting 17 MPG in a Dodge Neon to begin with.

no kidding, i can get around 17mpg (19 best, about 14 worst) in my v8, 4x4, super cab f150 (as measured by over a year of fill-ups logged on excel, and an "edge" programmer)

 

[TheTopher]

i think its a acura tl but not sure

You are correct.



Even my company truck (half ton silverado) gets 15mpg and I leave the air conditioning on 24/7 and have 50 gallons of chemical in the back plus the power sprayer system and all my tools.


This guy must have SERIOUSLY screwed his car up to be getting 17mpg from it.

 

[Sunk]

Well it showed a Neon once, then an Acura... That's not important. It's worse than my truck with a canopy, lumber rack and a bunch of tools in the awesome Yay Area traffic.

 

[--weezl--]

found this necrothread, where a couple members of TRS actually got positive results

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23102&page=1

 

[CHKNFKR]

I'm more interested in how the hell he was getting 17 MPG in a Dodge Neon to begin with.

I get about 20mpg in my '95 F-250. It tips the scales at 6500# then again its a psd...

 

[TheTopher]

found this necrothread, where a couple members of TRS actually got positive results

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23102&page=1

I've heard numerous people getting positive results...nowhere near as many as the nay-sayers though. A good test would be mixing a little acetone with gasoline in a bucket and then dropping a piece of fuel line in the bucket and see what happens to it. But me personally, I seem to be able to match people using acetone just by learning to drive better, so I don't think it's worth the risk.


I'd strongly advise adjusting the nut behind the wheel before you start pouring miracle cures into your gas tank.

 

[CHKNFKR]

I get the 20 without even trying. Believe me there's a loose nut behind the wheel and there's absolutely no tightenning it. Consider my threads stripped

 

[darkspork]

maybe so, but that is NOT the way it came off... it sounded to me like an ignorant response...

honestly, 2mpg gain i think would be worth it... of course the risks are to be taken into consideration, but thus far, i have yet to see any actual proof that there are adverse effects on the motor from acetone... i haven't searched the forum for other discussions about this though...

my tires are fairly good, so i am told, tonneau would be a great idea, although expensive, (want to get one anyways though) and as for maintenance, ford keeps telling me i'm supposed to go 7000km on my oil, but i bring it in 5000 max, so i am totally on the same page as you... when you drive as much as i do, 2mpg is quite a lot... i've had my truck just over a year now (bought sept 26, 09), and i've put almost 40,000km on it (25,000 miles)

If you drive that much in a year it may be worthwhile to get a fuel efficient wagon (a lot hold almost as much as a Ranger). If you can get 45mpg+ in a Golf TDI or Jetta Sportwagon TDI you'll be trippling your fuel economy. When I must double my fuel economy, I drive my wife's Honda. My Ranger doesn't see too many long trips anymore because I've come to accept that it wasn't built to be fuel efficient.

This is the point everybody is trying to make:
If you get an extra 2mpg over 5 tanks of gas but erode your fuel line and pieces of the fuel line clog the fuel filter, how much money did you save? What if those pieces of fuel line get stuck in the fuel pump?

You asked for an opinion and the general consensus is unanamous; don't do it. You can continue on your own and try it, but if you are looking for somebody to tell you to give it a try and tell you it should be fine, it probably won't happen. Most people here don't want to tell somebody to do something they wouldn't.

With all of that being said, if you must try it, find a safe way to soak fuel lines in acetone for an extended period of time, maybe a week. After the week is up, does it look the same? Try it with rubber lines/hoses too, does it look the same? If you still want to try it, that's up to you but don't expect Ford to honor your warranty if something goes wrong.

 

[country0001]

Not to mention possibly jacking your fuel pump up. Are you using reg gas or ethanol?

 

[lil_Blue_Ford]

Ok, I'm going to try to lay this issue to rest.

I gave in and tried using Acetone once. I had a good baseline of fuel economy set up - I had calculated it over several tanks of gas and the average was around 19 mpg, plus or minus about .65 mpg. Tried the Acetone for several tankfuls with the same driving habits and calculated my fuel economy. There was absolutely NO noticeable change. None. Nada. No increase or decrease (except to my wallet for buying the acetone). Truck didn't run any better on it or any worse either. I've gotten more gains out of changing spark plugs and running a can of Seafoam through a motor than with acetone.

You want to know the best way to increase your fuel economy? (aside from buying a more fuel efficient vehicle that is). Run pure gasoline, not this crap that they push on us anymore with "up to 10% ethanol" or "Winter blended gas" or the new one "up to 15% ethanol." When I could still get pure gas locally for my Ranger, I was able to get 21-23 mpg around town with a tonneau cover and 300# in the bed. With 100# in the bed and the bed cover I was able to get up to 31 mpg highway. With this ethanol crap, my flex-fuel rated Ranger went from 21-23 around town to 17 mpg. And with ethanol in the winter blend it went down to 15 mpg.

My F-150 is no better. I was getting 13 mpg with the ethanol blend. Now with winter gas I'm getting 11 mpg. I'd bet that with pure gasoline I'd be up closer to 17 mpg around town.

The F-350 here with a 460 gets 8 mpg. Not sure if it still applies, but they used to only put the ethanol in 87 octane. Jumping up to 89 octane gas we gained about 2 mpg around town.