Do Oil Additives Work?

[pentode]

so... great point. he defends the indefensible.

i diverge 100 percent there.

wet belts. absolute retardation. like egr......having egr and wetbelts is double triple retarded....this is a drown the entire food chain of thought from epa to whomever signed off on the manufacturing side emergency....

there is no reason ever to use a belt that requires a chemistry which actively changes with unintended and unknowable conditions of the combustion process.....or is it? i think it is intended. they count on the corruption of the oil to shorten the life due to the average user model... getting the oil out of state is even easier because our fuel quality is shit. on a great day.

this is subject directly to availability.

i work nationwide with a varied fleet of vehicles. you can not be promised a specific magical oil when the need arises. just getting to a safe place to rest with regular 30 wt will destroy a perfectly functioning engine in short order for no reason at all to exist.

in the context of cradle to grave...


this is a crime against humanity. there is no mpg gain or emission improvement that can justify such idiocy. making an engine subject to failure with one slight addition of a quart of oil....no.

fleet wise....in the most abusive environment you can have....roughnecks driving your pickups...we still expected 250-350 k out of an engine.

0 weight oil showed up.

engine failures increased on a magnitude. on the ram side it is approaching 75 percent have a failure before 120k.


then in the world...

most of the 4cyl ecoboost fails are due to oil situations....these engines are underrated and awesome....weakening them like this is just criminally stupid.

make oil simple.

if you use less.....YOU USE LESS. that is always good for the environment.

Oh, I wasn't trying to defend wet belts. I'm not sure he was either. TBH I was just trying to sidestep scaring or offending anyone with an Ecoboost engine. I think they're an utterly terrible idea, like, possibly criminally bad. I took his comments as "don't make a problem even worse" but I'm totally on board with your point.

Gears, chain, tensioner optional. That's a proper timing system. Although probably a few Cummins guys will say the chain is optional too.

Edit: for the record, I hate timing belts too. Rubber doesn't belong in engines.

Edit 2: Engineer: "hmm, how could I take the most important part of an engine and make it much, much worse?" Conspiracy theorists engage now.

 

[bobbywalter]

Oh, I wasn't trying to defend wet belts. I'm not sure he was either. TBH I was just trying to sidestep scaring or offending anyone with an Ecoboost engine. I think they're an utterly terrible idea, like, possibly criminally bad. I took his comments as "don't make a problem even worse" but I'm totally on board with your point.

Gears, chain, tensioner optional. That's a proper timing system. Although probably a few Cummins guys will say the chain is optional too.

Edit: for the record, I hate timing belts too. Rubber doesn't belong in engines.

Edit 2: Engineer: "hmm, how could I take the most important part of an engine and make it much, much worse?" Conspiracy theorists engage now.

i didnt think that you were trying to defend wet belts.

he is, well...politicking the issue cleanly as can be done i suppose.

what cummins did to the valvetrain of the 6.7 is as bad as ford.

very disappointed with ford these past 10 years or so.

 

[pentode]

i didnt think that you were trying to defend wet belts.

he is, well...politicking the issue cleanly as can be done i suppose.

what cummins did to the valvetrain of the 6.7 is as bad as ford.

very disappointed with ford these past 10 years or so.

Agreed. At the risk of going slightly off topic... yeah, I'll just say: I6 300 vs ecoboost. I get that fuel economy is a thing, but l'm afraid we're all victims of corporate profit margins at this point.

 

[bobbywalter]

Agreed. At the risk of going slightly off topic... yeah, I'll just say: I6 300 vs ecoboost. I get that fuel economy is a thing, but l'm afraid we're all victims of corporate profit margins at this point.

i have both.


cant beat the powerboost. iit is a hybrid 3.5 ecoboost/70 hp electric engine monster.

cant beat it comes with this caveat.... if 3 year ownership is the goal.

if 30 year ownership is the goal...

well...you will just have to go slower. the 300 will get there. just not in a hurry and not overly thirsty. but will use more fuel going 20 mph slower hauling less weight...

but you can fix it...and its cheap.