Dang coyotes getting into everything.

[Snoranger]

How?


Contrary to what modern engine builders think the 400 (and 300) came from a time when shit didnt have to be spun to a sustained 4500rpm to make power.

1st one... Rod decided it want to exit the block... it made its own doorway.

2nd one... The cam didn’t like being 1 piece anymore. It preferred to be 3-5 pieces.

3rd one... A spark plug broke. Cracked a piston. It clacked and banged all the way home with a Fox mustang on the trailer behind it... running on 5 cylinders.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I know I mention this quite a bit, But I’ve been real impressed by the 3.0 duratech in our 2011 escape, this pulled my tractor home over 50 miles on a flatbed with no problem, even though technically it was a bit above the maximum towing capacity. Not towing it gets low 20’s fuel economy and is the most fun thing to drive since my ‘72 cutlass. Im not sure if theres a rwd usage for that engine but Id love to put one in a ranger chassis.

Our 3.5 in our edge has done great, for having the same hp something is decidly lacking compared to my 5.4 though.

 

[1990RangerinSK]

I will admit the rivian and bollinger (sp?) Look decent from a strictly visual perspective. But to drop 100k+ for a truck that really, practicality speaking, is not any better (imo) then the 24 yr old big block i currently use makes very little sense.

Not argueing. Just saying.

Y'know what? These electric trucks are a new thing. Back in the olden days (before you were born!) the F1 (first generation F-series) wasn't nearly as capable as today's F150. Oh, and the Model T Truck? Good luck towing 100 pounds with that thing. But, again, the towing capacity of today's F150.....

 

[1990RangerinSK]

Ill believe any of that when i see it. All im saying on the subject.

Give it a few years. Electric vehicles have come a long way in a very short time. In fact, it seems every year they get better. I'll wager that in five years, I'll be able to buy an electric vehicle that has the 400 mile range I need. They're close. Currently, Tesla's top range is about 300 miles, I think. Five years ago, Tesla's range was barely 150 miles. In another five years, I bet they'll hit 600.

While they're at it, I'm sure they'll do what needs to be done to make a capable tow rig, too.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Y'know what? These electric trucks are a new thing. Back in the olden days (before you were born!) the F1 (first generation F-series) wasn't nearly as capable as today's F150. Oh, and the Model T Truck? Good luck towing 100 pounds with that thing. But, again, the towing capacity of today's F150.....

They turned those model t's into farm tractors... for what they were they were not that weak.

 

[Snoranger]

They turned those model t's into farm tractors... for what they were they were not that weak.

They had a 2.9L with 20hp (about the same as the Ranger 2.9L)... yes, they were weak. They just geared the shit out of them to crawl around and do tractor stuff.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

They had a 2.9L with 20hp (about the same as the Ranger 2.9L)... yes, they were weak. They just geared the shit out of them to crawl around and do tractor stuff.

20hp was smack in the middle of John Deere's lineup until the late 40's...

Just saying if you want to pull, they will pull.

It is really rather remarkable what those things could do and the the conditions they had to do it, I wouldn't knock on them at all.

 

[bobbywalter]

The rare wooly t.....

 

[rusty ol ranger]

But, again, the towing capacity of today's F150.....

Is misleading. Youll be way over payload capacity by the time you get anywhere near rated tow capacity.

Give it a few years. Electric vehicles have come a long way in a very short time. In fact, it seems every year they get better. I'll wager that in five years, I'll be able to buy an electric vehicle that has the 400 mile range I need. They're close. Currently, Tesla's top range is about 300 miles, I think. Five years ago, Tesla's range was barely 150 miles. In another five years, I bet they'll hit 600.

While they're at it, I'm sure they'll do what needs to be done to make a capable tow rig, too.

Under ideal conditions. They still will take much longer to refuel and drop massive range anytime you run your headlights, etc.

They had a 2.9L with 20hp (about the same as the Ranger 2.9L)... yes, they were weak. They just geared the shit out of them to crawl around and do tractor stuff.

There is about a full 2.8L's difference in HP between the T 2.9 I4 and the rangers 2.9L. Cute try though. Torque means more then HP and IIRC they were making 88ftlbs at like 1000rpm.

EDIT....

I was close. 83ftlb@900rpm.

 

[Snoranger]

There is about a full 2.8L's difference in HP between the T 2.9 I4 and the rangers 2.9L. Cute try though. Torque means more then HP and IIRC they were making 88ftlbs at like 1000rpm.

EDIT....

I was close. 83ftlb@900rpm.
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You know I’m joking, right. I’ve owned some 2.9l trucks and never really had an issue with them. Yes, they’re underpowered... so was everything in the 80’s.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

You know I’m joking, right. I’ve owned some 2.9l trucks and never really had an issue with them. Yes, they’re underpowered... so was everything in the 80’s.

Lol i know.

They arnt underpowered when you compare them to what they had for competition at the time. Ive always felt anyways they swing a bit above their weight class. But thats just my opinion.

 

[ryan]

Give it a few years. Electric vehicles have come a long way in a very short time. In fact, it seems every year they get better. I'll wager that in five years, I'll be able to buy an electric vehicle that has the 400 mile range I need. They're close. Currently, Tesla's top range is about 300 miles, I think. Five years ago, Tesla's range was barely 150 miles. In another five years, I bet they'll hit 600.

While they're at it, I'm sure they'll do what needs to be done to make a capable tow rig, too.

I'd expect the same. Hoping to go that route for my next truck, but we'll see how long i can hold out

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Um...
With variable valve timing and lift, many of these modern engines make more torque across the board. You're fixated on the idea that they make peak power up high, but that doesn't tell the real story.

Missed this first time around.

Go watch some videos. Every newer gas truck ive seen towing has to drop 3 gears and scream 45-5000 on even the slightest hill.

Just speaking from my own observations, if we compare apples to apples while the older trucks are slower empty, you can load the piss out of them and they dont really get any slower. The newer trucks seem to run hard empty but seem to lose more as things get heavy. I believe this is because they rely more on HP and RPM then low end torque. They would really suck mated to a 3 or 4 speed auto instead of the 6+ speeds they all have now.

 

[fastpakr]

I think you're confused.

There's a difference between 'has to' and 'can because it makes even more power that you'll never have access to'.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

I think you're confused.

There's a difference between 'has to' and 'can because it makes even more power that you'll never have access to'.

If we both climb the hill at 55-60 does it matter? Id rather have a big lazy bigblock popping away at 2500rpm then something soundinh like its gonna come apart at 5k.