CAFE standards... rolled back

[85_Ranger4x4]

I hear what you're saying but if that was true then they wouldn't need to subsidize ethanol.
The other consequence of burning corn in our gas tanks is that it makes our food more expensive.

WITH the ethanol we are producing now corn prices are not far from where they were in the 70's...

 

[SenorNoob]

So you're saying more corn ethanol could help farmers? Sounds like a win to me. And I HATE ethanol in fuel. It absolutely eats aluminum carbs. Especially the cheap ones I get.

 

[Bill]

I don't think you are understanding what I am saying. There is nothing wrong with fuel efficiency or electric vehicles as long as that is what the consumers want. The government making fuel efficiency and EV regulations is absolutely a scam, they have no Constitutional authority to do that. There should be zero government mandate for fuel efficiency.

I agree when it comes to EVs. When it comes to fuel efficiency, assuming feasable standards, I think legislation in this regard is fine. Regarding it being contitutional, the Supreme Court has ruled otherwise. The court cases you see today regarding these issues is because some of the laws create an unreasonable burden on manufactures. And really, I question people who take issue with increased efficiency. It's like arguing that they want to pay four times the cost of electricity and 25% more for gas. The key here is reasonable. It's reasonable for an older Ranger to get 30 mph. I get that with my 2007 Ranger. Without both emissions and fuel economy legislation, we would never have reach 19 mpg in those trucks. Making an argument that somehow the latter situation is better is just silly, and a lack of critical thinking.

 

[sgtsandman]

Increasing fuel efficiency and mandates to do so, I don't have a problem with as long as the current technology can support it. The problem is that it has gotten to the point that the manufacturers are throwing every little tweak they can at vehicles in an attempt to meet it, some to the detriment of the longevity of the vehicle.

Take start/stop for instance. Engines with that system are having a lot of problems and failures because of the additional wear and tear, fuel in the oil, increased moisture in the oil, and other things.

Todays turbocharged engines, while doing better than the push for smaller tubocharged engines in the 80s did, are having problems. Some of them are significant, depending on the engine and their design generation.

The issue is getting pushed too hard, too fast.