yeh i double checked the relays,all are working good, still no spark. it will crank but thats it. also i am only getting 0.35 volts to the crank sensor, on both wires. is this normal? how many volts should the crank sensor be getting? i tested two coils, both tested okay, strong resistance. any more ideas? thanks for all the help guys. i was about ready to say f*** it, but its almost done. and you guys are keeping me sane, lots of great ideas. keep 'em comin'.............thanks