Global warming or mini ice-age??

[MAKG]

Well, Mikey is a scientist so if he can't see it, it isn't there. I can forgive him for that, I've got a cousin that's the same deal.

IMO the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament, so in my life that is the God I deal with.

Quite a lot of scientists accept that there are things that can't be seen. It's just not a scientific statement, so you won't find it in the literature.

For me, if it can't make a damn bit of difference, it doesn't matter whether it's there or not.

So, did God change from the Old to New Testaments, or did people? It's certainly true that God is presented quite differently in the New Testament. Which part of the Bible is wrong? They can't both be literal truth.

And God is still an asshole if questioning the worship of a missing corpse gets one eternal pain.

And which New Testament is correct? There is more than one. Hint: there is a holy site just outside the walls of Jerusalem, facing the Mount of Olives, called "Mary's Tomb."

 

[Kdawg532]

HUH? Man made products cause Cancer, The Plague by Fleas on rats then biting people because they did nothing about the rodents. Bush is satan's right hand man, Aids-many theories where it came from, but just remember where the first and by far most reports came from GAYS; it was Adam and Eve NOT Adam and Steve!!! You can Deny him, he is to fear and a jealous God,keep doing what Satan wants to be done. Do you think Jesus just wasted his time for us? I fear not about what happens, the signs are getting to be more and more,Earthquakes,Fires,Seasons out of order,Droughts.
Am am far from perfect, hell I am far from being near correct, but he brought me back for something. By all rights I should be dead, the doctors even gave up hope for me.

 

[Kdawg532]

MakG we will never now how much of the bible is literal truth until we die and meet God then we can ask him how much of it was a man made concoction or how much was the true inspired word of God. i guess? dont know how much sense that just made lol but personally i continue to believe that the whole thing is the truth by which we should live our lives

 

[reno]

Well I was enlisted to protect my rights, can you say the same thing?

You are very correct Makg, on anything and everything you say is correct. You are the greatest, Einstein is sure lucky not have you in his time for we would never have heard of him.

You have some hate there, learn to get over it, the statement made earlier by no matter what someone says, you have a negative answer for, is true. why do you cause problems? Are you bored?

Now go ahead and say you are exercising your rights....we all know that is what you want to say because that is the smart aleck thing to say

 

[BlackBII]

Wow.

 

[reno]

Wow.

Well I don't hate the guy, just one negative comment after another. He is excellent with the Ranger, and I recommend anyone to him. But it gets frustrating seeing negative comments all the time. It is like he enjoys making another mad and get into a shouting match behind the keyboard.

 

[MAKG]

Hate? No, you can believe whatever the heck you want. It's just when you use that belief to try to keep people from doing things that it's a problem.

It seems to be a common fallacy that there is only one faith. No, there isn't. Not even within one church. Even if that church SAYS there is.

It has nothing to do with rights. Don't put words in my mouth. It has everything to do with questioning one's assumptions. Just because someone else (even your parents) said something is true doesn't necessarily mean it is. The only way an adult will figure that out is questioning it. I've gone through this process, extensively. Have you?

And it has nothing AT ALL to do with enlistment. That's just bizarre.

Lack of critical thinking is a very serious, and very common, problem. That's when you'll see me making "negative" comments. It's very obvious they are out of your comfort zone. But that's a good thing! That "negative" label is extremely subjective, and there are those who will not see it as negative. Yes, the literal Bible says it is. But it's a storybook. A very good one, but still a storybook much more similar to the Iliad than some people are comfortable with..

 

[reno]

Hate? No, you can believe whatever the heck you want. It's just when you use that belief to try to keep people from doing things that it's a problem.

It seems to be a common fallacy that there is only one faith. No, there isn't. Not even within one church. Even if that church SAYS there is.

It has nothing to do with rights. Don't put words in my mouth. It has everything to do with questioning one's assumptions. Just because someone else (even your parents) said something is true doesn't necessarily mean it is. The only way an adult will figure that out is questioning it. I've gone through this process, extensively. Have you?

And it has nothing AT ALL to do with enlistment. That's just bizarre.

Lack of critical thinking is a very serious, and very common, problem. That's when you'll see me making "negative" comments. It's very obvious they are out of your comfort zone. But that's a good thing! That "negative" label is extremely subjective, and there are those who will not see it as negative. Yes, the literal Bible says it is. But it's a storybook. A very good one, but still a storybook much more similar to the Iliad than some people are comfortable with..

Well if he does not exist, then why do you argue over him? Why do you call a figment of our imagination names? See this can go on and on and on....tiresome. But yes, we all need to do our part in conserving, I will agree to that.
I am not trying to push anything on you Makg, or change your beleifs, it is just every response was a negative one (or at least to me it was). It is just that everything happening now seems to be the beginning of signs that was written many centuries ago in that storybook as you call it, kind of ironic if you ask me. This hole in the Ozone is about like a black Hole in Space, scientist have theories they exist but no way of proving it exists, and a whole bunch of people believe it exists, pretty much like something else discussed here does not exist, why believe in those then?
This thread is getting out of hand, I'm moving on, you guys have fun arguing here. This is crazy.

 

[Kdawg532]

same here screw this thread

 

[JohnnyO]

First off, I will quickly admit that I am not a Biblical scholar.

So, did God change from the Old to New Testaments, or did people? It's certainly true that God is presented quite differently in the New Testament. Which part of the Bible is wrong? They can't both be literal truth.

I don't see it as a matter of one being right and one being wrong. Old Testament is pre-Christ and the New Testament is post-Christ. At the time of Christ (assuming one believes), He Himself lived by and taught by the Old Testament. New Testament wasn't written until He was gone, detailing His teaching and works. IMO the New Testament doesn't make the Old Testament wrong or irrelevant but does make it, shall we say, obsolete. The Christian church consisted of the followers of Christ's disciples. Now then, Christ himself was Jewish. The post-Christ Jewish religion was descended from the folks who ran the Jewish church at that time, the Pharisees and Saducees, who didn't like anyone horning in on their act and using logic to make them look silly. Jews rely on the Old Testament because they are still waiting for the Son of God to arrive.

And God is still an asshole if questioning the worship of a missing corpse gets one eternal pain.

I tend to think God is a pretty forgiving guy. You seem to have more of an Old Testament view. Me, I'm not taking any chances.

[/Bible lesson]

In any event, I quit arguing about oil and filters a while ago, for sure I'm not going to argue about religion.

 

[snake]

well said.

 

[Ozwynn]

First off, I will quickly admit that I am not a Biblical scholar.


I don't see it as a matter of one being right and one being wrong. Old Testament is pre-Christ and the New Testament is post-Christ. At the time of Christ (assuming one believes), He Himself lived by and taught by the Old Testament. New Testament wasn't written until He was gone, detailing His teaching and works. IMO the New Testament doesn't make the Old Testament wrong or irrelevant but does make it, shall we say, obsolete.

Almost 100% correct. close enough to be 99.999999999999999999999....... accurate

I tend to think God is a pretty forgiving guy. You seem to have more of an Old Testament view. Me, I'm not taking any chances.

100% true as far as I am concerned.

In any event, I quit arguing about oil and filters a while ago, for sure I'm not going to argue about religion.

could not have said it better myself

 

[Capt Jay]

Why do religious people only give god credit for the good things. Earlier stated that cancer was caused my man made products. By the god is all knowing philosophy, didn't god create everything so there for man made products are a product of god. Ipso facto god created cancer. Did not god create the fleas on the rat, there for god created the plague. The will of god goes both ways.

 

[shadetree]

I steered you to primary sources. You insist on heavily biased secondary sources.

It's amazing how you can read into statements things that are not there, or intended, and make off the wall assumptions. Scientists are probably one of the most biased groups of all.

GO THERE and you won't be a drooling Dittohead.

I'll take the word of a "drooling Dittohead" long before that of an egotistical know-it-all, who, much like a 5 year old, has to be the center of attention.

 

[reno]

It's amazing how you can read into statements things that are not there, or intended, and make off the wall assumptions. Scientists are probably one of the most biased groups of all.

I'll take the word of a "drooling Dittohead" long before that of an egotistical know-it-all, who, much like a 5 year old, has to be the center of attention.

This is turning into a flame thread now. Makg maybe it is just the way he words things and it comes out wrong, but to keep bashing will just keep this going and will get worse, can't we all just get along?