The autumn years of the ICE should be the golden years for the ICE.

[Roert42]

Everyone is missing the point.


We need more of this.

 

[PetroleumJunkie412]

Everyone is missing the point.


We need more of this.

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I have wood.

 

[fastpakr]

Thanks for providing a supporting source! Lots of surveys like this exist, and they often have results that are different enough to make it hard to gauge what's real. Here are some similar polls from the last 12 months:

How many Americans expect to never drive an EV in their life? New driver report reveals it is more than you think

As gas prices go up and EV prices go down, many consumers are looking to go green. How many Americans plan to drive an EV next or at all?

electrek.co

Survey: 7 out of 10 Americans see an EV in the future, want more vehicle choices and charging

Respondents in a Consumer Reports survey want more EV choices, and about half said that there aren't enough charging stations for electric cars.

www.greencarreports.com

How Americans view electric vehicles

About four-in-ten Americans (38%) say they’re very or somewhat likely to seriously consider an electric vehicle (EV) for their next vehicle purchase.

www.pewresearch.org

These all indicate somewhere between 20 and 70% of Americans expect to own an EV. The only consistent trend in these types of poll data seems to be interest in EVs is increasing. But again the data for how much interest might be increasing is all over the map too.

It's also worth pointing out that in Rusty's article from Forbes, the percentages for Hybrid and pure EV combined are actually higher than for gas - e.g. of the polled audience, more are considering alternatives than traditional gasoline fueled vehicles. Also - Electric sales have gone from about 2% in 2019 to 2.4% in 2020, and up to around 3% last year. Hybrid sales are another 5% of the market. Both groups are increasing rapidly year over year. Certainly it won't happen for a few years, but the market transition to mostly hybrid or EV is definitely on the way.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Most Americans Don’t Want Electric Cars

Despite all the talk about “green” technology as a way to fight climate change, most Americans don’t think electric vehicles are practical now and don’t expect them to replace gasoline-powered cars soon.

www.rasmussenreports.com

New Study Reveals Most Americans Don't Want Electric Cars

Nearly 70 percent of those surveyed are still interested in conventionally-powered cars.

carbuzz.com

Study: Two-thirds of Americans don't want an EV yet, and half won't pay extra for electrified

A global study of automotive shoppers found some very high standards for U.S. EV adoption—including 500 miles of range and no significant price hike.

www.greencarreports.com

 

[dvdswan]

Everyone is missing the point.


We need more of this.

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You missed the point... lol bigger is better. lol

 

[sgtsandman]

It will be a good while before I’m in the market again. I wasn’t really happy with all the electronics in the 2019 and it appears they are only adding more and more displays instead of gauges. If that continues to be the trend, regardless of what moves the vehicle, ICE, Hybrid, or electricity, I’ll be looking at older, used vehicles. I want a vehicle, not a computer network on wheels.

 

[Roert42]

You missed the point... lol bigger is better. lol

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Inline engines or bust

 

[Chapap]

It will be a good while before I’m in the market again. I wasn’t really happy with all the electronics in the 2019 and it appears they are only adding more and more displays instead of gauges. If that continues to be the trend, regardless of what moves the vehicle, ICE, Hybrid, or electricity, I’ll be looking at older, used vehicles. I want a vehicle, not a computer network on wheels.

I had a 2018 Accord (current generation). I had a leaky tail light with a puddle in it. Made the throttle sporadically unresponsive. Very scary. Dealer couldn’t replicate and no codes.

 

[stmitch]

2 out of 3 of those are from EV/Green oreinted sites. CR is notoriously biased toward anything "new".

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Awful lot of "nevers" in that column.

Exactly. You don't know how the questions in the polls are phrased, or how the data may be used to support the stance that probably existed before the poll was done. It's probably not a coincidence that Pro-EV sites are finding poll results that have more interest in EVs. And it wouldn't surprise me if anti-EV sites showed poll results with lower EV interest. What I'm basically saying is that every single one of these polls should be viewed skeptically with a grain of salt. It's not really scientific or anything.

The charts are definitely interesting. It's easy to look at them and see all of the "nevers". But the highest percentage of "never" responses came from baby boomers, and it was just 40% of respondents. So even among Boomers, 60% of the people that responded see an EV in their future.
35% of Gen X said never (65% are open to EVs)
28% of Millenials said never (72% are open to EVs)
24% of Gen Z said never (76% are open to EVs)

 

[alwaysFlOoReD]

Everyone is missing the point.


We need more of this.

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As close as i can come to that;

 

[sgtsandman]

I had a 2018 Accord (current generation). I had a leaky tail light with a puddle in it. Made the throttle sporadically unresponsive. Very scary. Dealer couldn’t replicate and no codes.

That’s different. Drive by wire gas pedal?

 

[Chapap]

That’s different. Drive by wire gas pedal?

Yep and 6mt so I almost stalled a few times at lights on the way to the dealer. New tail light fixed it.

Edit: I should say “fixed” it. Got rid of that car thanks to the car shortage.

 

[PetroleumJunkie412]

I had a 2018 Accord (current generation). I had a leaky tail light with a puddle in it. Made the throttle sporadically unresponsive. Very scary. Dealer couldn’t replicate and no codes.

bUt LeTs eLEcTrIfY eVUuUuUurYThInG!!!!1!1!

Would have been hilarious if it locked it into runaway acceleration vs. cutting out.

I'm sure it would have worked out just fine.

Just like it did for prius, Lexus, Toyota, Mercedes, jeep....
















If you drive a networked vehicle with absolutely no physical disconnect between you and the driveline, you are a fool.

 

[rusty ol ranger]

Exactly. You don't know how the questions in the polls are phrased, or how the data may be used to support the stance that probably existed before the poll was done. It's probably not a coincidence that Pro-EV sites are finding poll results that have more interest in EVs. And it wouldn't surprise me if anti-EV sites showed poll results with lower EV interest. What I'm basically saying is that every single one of these polls should be viewed skeptically with a grain of salt. It's not really scientific or anything.

The charts are definitely interesting. It's easy to look at them and see all of the "nevers". But the highest percentage of "never" responses came from baby boomers, and it was just 40% of respondents. So even among Boomers, 60% of the people that responded see an EV in their future.
35% of Gen X said never (65% are open to EVs)
28% of Millenials said never (72% are open to EVs)
24% of Gen Z said never (76% are open to EVs)

Taken with a grain of salt right?

Younger folks want these things cause they are "cool" and probably are driving 20 yr old minivans. Wait till they get some age on them and their opinions will change. Not to mention the other study that i found that said 1 of every 4 EV drivers switch back, and a large majority also own a ICE.

Like i said before.....im betting on a 50/50 split at most.

 

[sgtsandman]

Sadly, the current Ranger has a drive by wire throttle pedal as well. I’m sure it makes sense and is a great idea to someone.