2019 Ranger Powertrain

[wildbill23c]

F-150 went to aluminum for 2015 so 2017 to 2018 it is nothing new. I don't think it really made a huge difference for mpg as much as it did for losing parasitic weight for payload/towing.

They are just facelifting the new (to us) Ranger for North America. Since it is a few years old I doubt they will go to aluminum this late in its run.

GM is going to an aluminum & carbon fiber body in 2020...hmm, guess they'll have to stop bashing Ford for their aluminum bodies then.

 

[blksn8k]

GM is going to an aluminum & carbon fiber body in 2020...hmm, guess they'll have to stop bashing Ford for their aluminum bodies then.

Chevrolet already shown the all new 2019 Silverado in Texas at a 50th anniversary party for their truck line. No mention yet that I am aware of on body materials other than the inner bed walls and floor would be steel. Expect to get all the specs at the NAIAS show in Detroit next month.

The 2019 Fiat Ram 1500 is also supposed to debut at the same show.

Ford will probably show the new (to us) 2019 Ranger there as well and will probably have more info on the F-150 diesel.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...silverado-pickup-and-its-all-steel/957609001/

 

[2002edgeplussupercab]

FX4 is just a sticker and shock package now on an F-150, they don't even get the cool lights and interior anymore.

I feel kind of dirty, while we were in Hawaii for our honeymoon last week I must have seen half a dozen flat dark earth (aka Quicksand) TRD Tacoma's over there and they looked dang sharp. I like the shallow bed and aggressive looks... and they have a 6speed manual option. Neat to see a color other than red, blue, gray, black or white like Ford's offerings too.

Kind of almost tempting...

Wrong. F150 Fx4 gets skidplates, elock diff, hill descent control.

 

[2002edgeplussupercab]

seen any chevy commercials lately? like where they drop bricks or tool boxes onto bed floors. Ford may be re-thinking their use of aluminum.


FYI, winter road salt doesn't corrode only steel, it chews away at aluminum too.

Very important to remember it is Aluminum Alloy. You know, like aluminum wheels are ? Try to dent one of those. It's not easy. They don't make trucks with beer can aluminum. Common sense matters.

 

[blksn8k]

Looks like the US Ranger might be using the Dana M220 for the rear axle and the M200 for the front, at least on the FX4.

I believe those are the same axles as used on the Colorado and Wrangler Rubicon.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Wrong. F150 Fx4 gets skidplates, elock diff, hill descent control.

Includes:
• 3.31 Electronic-locking rear-axle with 5.0L V8 engine or 3.5L V6 EcoBoost® engine
• 3.55 Electronic-locking rear-axle with 2.7L V6 EcoBoost® engine
• 4x4 "FX4 Off-Road" bodyside decal
• Hill Descent Control™
• Off-road tuned front shock absorbers
• Skid plates: fuel tank, transfer case, and front differential

Elock is available on anything, stickers, HDC, shocks and skidplates.

Nothing really groundbreaking.

 

[don4331]

Looks like the US Ranger might be using the Dana M220 for the rear axle and the M200 for the front, at least on the FX4.

I believe those are the same axles as used on the Colorado and Wrangler Rubicon.

M220 is also known as Dana 44 Advantek; What are there 5 Dana 44s now? Original, High pinion, Aluminum, Super & Advantek.

M220 is MUCH lighter duty than RoW rear axle. And with J2807 requirement, payload and towing with also be down from RoW numbers.

 

[blksn8k]

M220 is also known as Dana 44 Advantek; What are there 5 Dana 44s now? Original, High pinion, Aluminum, Super & Advantek.

M220 is MUCH lighter duty than RoW rear axle. And with J2807 requirement, payload and towing with also be down from RoW numbers.

I have seen diff covers listed for the Super 44 on parts websites that have a 12 bolt pattern that looks the same as the one in the above photo. Any idea if the Super 44 and M220 use the same cover?

I guess I would not be too surprised if the truck we get is a little lighter duty than the ROW T6. In most of those other markets the T6 does not compete with the F-150 for sales. However, the Ranger sold here will still need to at least match the capabilities of the GM and Toyota mid-size trucks.

BTW, the original D44 used a 10 bolt diff cover.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

I guess I would not be too surprised if the truck we get is a little lighter duty than the ROW T6. In most of those other markets the T6 does not compete with the F-150 for sales. However, the Ranger sold here will still need to at least match the capabilities of the GM and Toyota mid-size trucks.

Tacoma maxes out around 6500lbs for towing capacity so there is some wiggle room there.

 

[blksn8k]

Here's an interesting front view of all the F-150 engine choices except the diesel. Notice how wide and low the turbos sit on the EB engines. Add to that the fact that the exhaust manifolds on the 2.7 are an integral part of the cylinder heads and it starts to become questionable whether or not that engine will even fit between the frame rails of the T6. I would also expect that relocating the turbos becomes a major undertaking because they are probably bolted directly to those immovable exhaust manifolds. Brace yourselves for the 2.3L EB in the Ranger and Bronco.

Having said that, there is some hope since there is at least one T6 running around Australia with a Coyote between its frame rails. That one has custom headers so who knows?

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

There are Coyote/mod motor 83-11 NA Rangers running around too.

Once you get past the steering and HVAC stuff "between the framerail fit" isn't horrid.

Probably the 3.3 NA and/or 2.3 Ecoboost would be my guesses.

The competition is sub 300hp, they are not going to throw a Coyote into the mix if they don't have to.

 

[blksn8k]

I wasn't trying to suggest that they would ever even consider the V8. I only mentioned the Coyote because if there is room for that I would think they could at least make a non-turbo V6 fit. As you mentioned, the 3.3 is probably the most likely candidate since making special exhaust manifolds to fit it in the T6 shouldn't be a huge problem, assuming that's even necessary.
The 2.7 is another story. If it won't fit as is I seriously doubt Ford would design special cylinder heads just so they can reposition the turbos to make them fit in the Ranger. Although it would be interesting to see if there are any differences between the 2.7 heads on an F-150 and those on a Fusion or Edge.
Hopefully we will know more in a few days. The NAIAS in Detroit opens to the press at the end of this week.

 

[bobbywalter]

Here's an interesting front view of all the F-150 engine choices except the diesel. Notice how wide and low the turbos sit on the EB engines. Add to that the fact that the exhaust manifolds on the 2.7 are an integral part of the cylinder heads and it starts to become questionable whether or not that engine will even fit between the frame rails of the T6. I would also expect that relocating the turbos becomes a major undertaking because they are probably bolted directly to those immovable exhaust manifolds. Brace yourselves for the 2.3L EB in the Ranger and Bronco.

Having said that, there is some hope since there is at least one T6 running around Australia with a Coyote between its frame rails. That one has custom headers so who knows?

hmmmm

the picture the way it shows up on my screen....


all of those engines are easily fitted into the ranger.

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Never cared enough to check into Colorado but the biggest gun out there for competition is the 265hp 3.5 in the Tacoma.

If I was Ford I would crush that, no need to throw a V6 Ecoboost at it to get that done. No need to cut into F-150 sales if you don't need to.

265hp is a pretty low bar nowadays too, my wife's 2008 Edge with a 3.5 has 265hp... the 290hp 3.3 should handily crush the Toyota 3.5.

 

[wa2be]

Never cared enough to check into Colorado but the biggest gun out there for competition is the 265hp 3.5 in the Tacoma.

If I was Ford I would crush that, no need to throw a V6 Ecoboost at it to get that done. No need to cut into F-150 sales if you don't need to.

265hp is a pretty low bar nowadays too, my wife's 2008 Edge with a 3.5 has 265hp... the 290hp 3.3 should handily crush the Toyota 3.5.

The 2017 Colorado's V6 is rated at 308 hp. So the bar is definitely higher than what Toyota is offering.