Have you ever seen a ricer scared of a ford ranger?

[straycat]

I am going to end this post with this!!!!!



Cherry bombs are so sucky!!!! They are so sucky they suck!!!!! lol

I never used them and nobody I know has ever used them!!! They are not good for a stock motor...they can and will toast your valves!!!! It has been proven over and over again for so many years.

 

[jhammel85]

lol, I'm not exactly a fan of glass packs either..maybe on a few v8's but even then I don't care much for them, IMHO.

I will say this though...I've always heard that the burnt valve thing comes from small engines. On a car/truck engine it doesn't happen that often due to something like a glasspack, from what I understand.

...Mythbusters???

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

True as hell. I have read a lot of articles over the years in all my Hot Rod, Car and Driver, etc. mags and I remember them saying this a truth, true as hell!!!! A lot of cars had many motor problems running the Cherry Bomb crap exhaust. All my buddies and I laughed our butts off at drags strips when idiots showed up with Cherry Bombs on their stupid Pintos and Vega's thinking the sound will scare off competition.


Haaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa....lol

I had better tell dad then, because after 20 years and 150k (truck has 280k) the valves on his F-350 may die at any moment...

BTW, Magnaflows are built basically the same way as a glasspack. They last longer and cost a lot more. I had a true dual glasspack catback system put on my F-150 and the $30 Thrushes outlasted the pipe the shop used. Glasspacks are still red but the paint is flaking around where they welded them to the pipe. So really unless you go full stainless I don't see the longitivity of the muffler being a huge concern.

Sounded freaking sweat before the pipe went all swiss cheese on me, much like a stock Mustang at idle and very much like of Eleanore on the Gone in 60 Seconds remake when I got on it.

Heck, the OEM mufflers for my tractors are basically a louvered glasspack without the glass (a small pipe with louvers running thru a bigger pipe) that is attached directly to the manifold. I go plowing (very high engine load) all day long and valves don't burn.

Magazines are a terrible resource for such things, they will bash anything to sell whatever product their sponsers want them to. I take them with a grain of salt. IMO it was a scapegoat for not adjusting valves before hydraulic lifters came out, or an improperly tuned carb, or misadjusted timing.

Glasspacks have been out for what 50-60 years? If they were so bad they would have died out decades ago... and there would be more on the net besides people that have no experiance with them so positive that they burn valves spreading the rumor... and virtually nobody out there having problems with them.

I did have one on my 2.8 for a little while... did not like the sound at all.

 

[rangerbum]

I had one on my old. ranger 2.3 liter. Didn't sound too bad, ran better than my old clogged exhaust. Never had a valve issue

 

[Toms01PSD]

I am going to end this post with this!!!!!



Cherry bombs are so sucky!!!! They are so sucky they suck!!!!! lol

I never used them and nobody I know has ever used them!!! They are not good for a stock motor...they can and will toast your valves!!!! It has been proven over and over again for so many years.

I'm glad that I can trust you and your friend's experience to tell me that Cherry bombs destroy valves.

 

[heptofite]

Heh, yesterday i was next to a beat-the-shit-out-of civic with missing exhaust in town, he was revving it up like he was some kind of race car driver while going about 5mph between lights.

so i pulled up next to him and when the light turned green i floored it.

at that moment the fan clutch kicked in and spun up the fan, sounded like a jet turbine spooling up right next to his open window.

it was hilarious.

 

[straycat]

I had better tell dad then, because after 20 years and 150k (truck has 280k) the valves on his F-350 may die at any moment...

BTW, Magnaflows are built basically the same way as a glasspack. They last longer and cost a lot more. I had a true dual glasspack catback system put on my F-150 and the $30 Thrushes outlasted the pipe the shop used. Glasspacks are still red but the paint is flaking around where they welded them to the pipe. So really unless you go full stainless I don't see the longitivity of the muffler being a huge concern.

Sounded freaking sweat before the pipe went all swiss cheese on me, much like a stock Mustang at idle and very much like of Eleanore on the Gone in 60 Seconds remake when I got on it.

Heck, the OEM mufflers for my tractors are basically a louvered glasspack without the glass (a small pipe with louvers running thru a bigger pipe) that is attached directly to the manifold. I go plowing (very high engine load) all day long and valves don't burn.

Magazines are a terrible resource for such things, they will bash anything to sell whatever product their sponsers want them to. I take them with a grain of salt. IMO it was a scapegoat for not adjusting valves before hydraulic lifters came out, or an improperly tuned carb, or misadjusted timing.

Glasspacks have been out for what 50-60 years? If they were so bad they would have died out decades ago... and there would be more on the net besides people that have no experiance with them so positive that they burn valves spreading the rumor... and virtually nobody out there having problems with them.

I did have one on my 2.8 for a little while... did not like the sound at all.

Your dad is deaf and he can't even hear a burned valve on that POS he drives. Glass packs are not good for anything but a door holder. I don't care what you say...they are 100% junk and DO NOT OFFER ANY PERFORMANCE...JUST F###ING NOISE!!!!!

 

[straycat]

I'm glad that I can trust you and your friend's experience to tell me that Cherry bombs destroy valves.

It has been proven in do amny Hot Rod mags of the 70's and 80's and the
90's....they are junk and do not off any HP gains....just F###ing noise!!!!!

 

[shane96ranger]

I've heard this crap about ruining exhaust valves, blah blah blah. It's supposedly due to back pressure. I don't see why a vehicle with a catalytic converter would be affected by this though.

I'm not saying I buy into the theory, just that if it held any water - a catalytic converter should compensate for the lost back pressure.

 

[Toms01PSD]

It has been proven in do amny Hot Rod mags of the 70's and 80's and the
90's....they are junk and do not off any HP gains....just F###ing noise!!!!!

Again with the magazines...

 

[85_Ranger4x4]

Your dad is deaf and he can't even hear a burned valve on that POS he drives. Glass packs are not good for anything but a door holder. I don't care what you say...they are 100% junk and DO NOT OFFER ANY PERFORMANCE...JUST F###ING NOISE!!!!!

It has been proven in do amny Hot Rod mags of the 70's and 80's and the
90's....they are junk and do not off any HP gains....just F###ing noise!!!!!

Do you have anything to go along with this?

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_product/sue462/backpressuretorquemyth.htm

http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/glasspacks-41423.html

http://www.bing.com/search?q=glasspack+dissadvantages&form=ASUMHP&qs=n&sk=

http://www.stevesnovasite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111009

I've heard this crap about ruining exhaust valves, blah blah blah. It's supposedly due to back pressure. I don't see why a vehicle with a catalytic converter would be affected by this though.

I'm not saying I buy into the theory, just that if it held any water - a catalytic converter should compensate for the lost back pressure.

Non issue in a vehicle that...
1. Can adjust fuel trim to maintain proper air/fuel ratio on its own.
2. Has a carb that allows you to adjust the air/fuel ratio.

Those two things catch nearly every vehicle on the road. Some smog special carbs are preset with the extremly restrictive stock exhaust so you can't adjust them though.

Running cats eliminates the fuel coming down the pipes and collecting in the glasspacks which makes them burn out... so aside from being much quieter they last a lot longer.

 

[rangerluver]

Your dad is deaf and he can't even hear a burned valve on that POS he drives. Glass packs are not good for anything but a door holder. I don't care what you say...they are 100% junk and DO NOT OFFER ANY PERFORMANCE...JUST F###ING NOISE!!!!!

It has been proven in do amny Hot Rod mags of the 70's and 80's and the
90's....they are junk and do not off any HP gains....just F###ing noise!!!!!

Geeze, my computer is like, deaf with all the screaming. Its almost like you know his dad.

Although, I agree that a good, baffled, turbo muffler is better than a glasspack most anyday; and lasts longer as there is nothing to blow out your tailpipe.

 

[Ruger]

Lol wow this is great. Every one is arguing over glass packs now and how they affect your engines. All I got to say is, to each his own. For example... I'm a Ford guy not a Chevy guy, but that's not to say that a Chevy couldn't do the job it's just that people have different tastes and opinions.

As for straycat and his uncanny ability to mike letters with symbols to try to make a point I'll I have got to say is, grow up and learn to make an argument that is supported through facts and not well he said or she said or the magazine said. That's almost as bad as saying well the internet said.

Finally as for the person who started this thread. Thanks for the laughs! You crack me up with your ability to not breath while typing lol

 

[Bennybooster]

Lol wow this is great. Every one is arguing over glass packs now and how they affect your engines. All I got to say is, to each his own. For example... I'm a Ford guy not a Chevy guy, but that's not to say that a Chevy couldn't do the job it's just that people have different tastes and opinions.

As for straycat and his uncanny ability to mike letters with symbols to try to make a point I'll I have got to say is, grow up and learn to make an argument that is supported through facts and not well he said or she said or the magazine said. That's almost as bad as saying well the internet said.

Finally as for the person who started this thread. Thanks for the laughs! You crack me up with your ability to not breath while typing lol

SO much win in this statement

 

[Jason]

Like I said. Stray must have had experience with people that don't know how to adjust the fuel delivery. That is the only way an exhaust mod can ruin a valve. Lean burn.