little bit more power??

[4.0B2]

guess yall are gonna tell me my tornado that goes in the air tube doesn't help either right!!!!!!?? lol.
and my $30 "turbo chip" from ebay! what do you have to say about that!? lol..
j/k guys...

 

[Beanmachine7000]

guess yall are gonna tell me my tornado that goes in the air tube doesn't help either right!!!!!!?? lol.
and my $30 "turbo chip" from ebay! what do you have to say about that!? lol..
j/k guys...

NO!!! NO!!!! You got it all wrong!! The Tornado goes in the exhaust!!!

 

[4.0B2]

NO!!! NO!!!! You got it all wrong!! The Tornado goes in the exhaust!!!

oooooOOOOOoooo..... well that changes everything!!!!

 

[hondaxr650]

NO!!! NO!!!! You got it all wrong!! The Tornado goes in the exhaust!!!

I actually found one of those stupid things inside one of the turbo ducts on a diesel once. Got lots of laughs out of that one.

 

[Beanmachine7000]

I actually found one of those stupid things inside one of the turbo ducts on a diesel once. Got lots of laughs out of that one.

and I thought they were dumb on a NA car... Hey! Put this giant obstruction in your air intake it'll make your car faster! lol... whatever...

 

[maxwell.hunt]

ford doesn't put performance parts in there trucks because it isn't nessesairytheir target consumer isn't looking for a hot rod they are looking for a safe reliable truck. that is why they havent put performence parts in. that being said there ARE things to do to increase horsepower. there is a basic k&n air filter which will increase fuel economy as well as provide a very little bit more horsepower (around 60 bucks canadian) there is a throttle body spacer which also offers more air flow which is about 200 canadian. forsed air intake which ranges anbywhere from 150-500 canadian. there are performance cats that offer high flow which i would say magnaflow is your best bet. performance mufflers work well also the cherry bomb glasspack offers great flow at a very cheap price, sound is your prefurence. you can get a performance chip in your truck that will increase the amonut of fuel and air going into your intake for more power. new spark plugs and wires will make her ride smoother. lots and lots more if you want to get into more money

 

[maxwell.hunt]

everyone argues that after market doesn't make your truck faster IT DOES!!! putting a slightly beetter muffler on a ranger may cost ford a doller more a truck. THEY ARE MAKING MILLIONS AT ONCE!! that is why companies like cherry bomb, flowmaster, magnaflow etc etc etc are making MILLIONS on their products because they ARE

 

[maxwell.hunt]

everyone argues that after market doesn't make your truck faster IT DOES!!! putting a slightly beetter muffler on a ranger may cost ford a doller more a truck. THEY ARE MAKING MILLIONS AT ONCE!! that is why companies like cherry bomb, flowmaster, magnaflow etc etc etc are making MILLIONS on their products because they ARE better, no it isn't cheap for ford to put fast parts in there trucks, it would cost millions

 

[Big Jim M]

Confirmed!

My suspicions have recently been confirmed!
Big JIm

 

[Beanmachine7000]

My suspicions have recently been confirmed!
Big JIm

Hey, at least he's enjoying the Kool-Aid... Let's call it "stimulating the economy"... Buying those things is putting money into our economy, lol... Even if they don't work he's keeping someone in a job...

The facts are though

1.) K&N on a stock truck - nada
2.) Throttle Body Spacer - even less nada
3.) Tuner - more nada than either of the two above, but not worth the money
4.) "Forsed" air intake???? I have no clue what you mean by this but if you are talking about forced induction (ie turbo/supercharger) that WILL work, not for $200 though... Hell, if you can get a turbo for $200 share the love, let me in man!
5.) High flow cat? Have you actually seen the inside of a catalytic converter? Obviously not, because if you had you would know there is nothing inside to cause any obstruction that would warrant a "high-flow" version, much less on a stock truck...
6.) A different muffler will definitely get you a different sound, more power? Ok, I admit, you *MIGHT* see 1-2 hp increase but, honestly the only reason you should get a different exhaust is if you wanted a different sound...
7.) How the hell would a tuner give you more air?!?! More fuel, sure but, what good is that with no more air? It's not... A tuner can advance timing curves and increase high rpm power... Not worth the money though...
8.) New plugs and wires? Ok, this is even more absurd than the other crap... If you NEED new plugs and wires, sure they can help but, just changing plugs or buying those expensive things won't do diddly...

Basically all these companies are doing is trying to get you to waste money on crap that makes you THINK it would work... It's a truck, not a racecar... If you need more power I told you how to make it... None of this other crap will work... Just trying to save you money...

 

[Dirmaid]

Throttle body spacer? Also does nothing...

Actually, I believe he was referring to the actual throttle body. The outside of the throttle body is most notably plastic until you get to the inside of the actual mechanism. I messed around with my '04 once my tuner told me that floored my throttle is only 92%. I got to looking and the entire plastic piece that controls the throttle body has a built in stopper that won't allow the throttle to turn any farther. This of course pertains only to the throttle cable turned TB's, not the electronically controlled ones.

Also, my stand point is the: the way that the stock intake is designed, it's taking air through a 4 inch wide oval hole behind the headlights AND THAT'S IT. Of course, according to fluid dynamics, trying to forced say 400 cu in of air through that opening in 1 second is going to take noticeably more force to do the same thing if you have an aftermarket filter that is open to the engine bay. It takes more force for the engine to take this air in, thus restricting the amount of air coming into the engine, and holding your engine back.

I think where this thread is getting snagged is the question of airflow through the entire system. Yes, more air equals more power. Yes, smoother airflow equals more air. But there is a finite amount of air that the engine is naturally able to take in before we move into forced induction. That's why, IMHO, people argue the functionality of a CAI. Yes, you make experience either A) more power or B) more noise, but remember you could spend the 40 bucks on the cone filter or the 500 bucks on the Ford Racing intake, but either way the engine can only suck a certain amount before turbos and superchargers become a factor in this equation.

And I'm not trying to step on any toes, just getting my opinion out there.

 

[Beanmachine7000]

Actually, I believe he was referring to the actual throttle body. The outside of the throttle body is most notably plastic until you get to the inside of the actual mechanism. I messed around with my '04 once my tuner told me that floored my throttle is only 92%. I got to looking and the entire plastic piece that controls the throttle body has a built in stopper that won't allow the throttle to turn any farther. This of course pertains only to the throttle cable turned TB's, not the electronically controlled ones.

Also, my stand point is the: the way that the stock intake is designed, it's taking air through a 4 inch wide oval hole behind the headlights AND THAT'S IT. Of course, according to fluid dynamics, trying to forced say 400 cu in of air through that opening in 1 second is going to take noticeably more force to do the same thing if you have an aftermarket filter that is open to the engine bay. It takes more force for the engine to take this air in, thus restricting the amount of air coming into the engine, and holding your engine back.

I think where this thread is getting snagged is the question of airflow through the entire system. Yes, more air equals more power. Yes, smoother airflow equals more air. But there is a finite amount of air that the engine is naturally able to take in before we move into forced induction. That's why, IMHO, people argue the functionality of a CAI. Yes, you make experience either A) more power or B) more noise, but remember you could spend the 40 bucks on the cone filter or the 500 bucks on the Ford Racing intake, but either way the engine can only suck a certain amount before turbos and superchargers become a factor in this equation.

And I'm not trying to step on any toes, just getting my opinion out there.

... and the stock Ford 4.0L air intake system flows more than the 4.0L will ever need stock...

 

[Dirmaid]

Stock flow

How do you know if this is the case? What's the stock air flow coming through the MAF?

 

[Big Jim M]

Well... THINK about it!

How do you know if this is the case? What's the stock air flow coming through the MAF?

The stock system fills the chamber to the amount that makes the desired compression at spark. ANY MORE flow would make MORE compression! Which would them make ping... at the ping the system would then retard the timing and richen the mixture..
GOT IT! The cylinders FILL at every stoke from the factory! If they DIDN'T then ANY improvement would cause that dreaded pinging..
Even now just a little bit of carbon on the pistons makes these engines ping, so we know for sure any more AIR FLOW would do the same thing.

The existing intake flows far more air than the engine can injest.
Big JIm

 

[legoms013]

Change gears, keep up on the maintenance and don't waste your money on all the fancy bling that doesn't do crap.

And stay away from K&N for Rangers, they COME FROM THE FACTORY WITH A COLD AIR INTAKE, AND THE STOCK PAPER FILTER WILL FLOW MORE AIR THAN THE 4.0 WILL EVER PULL.