2.9 Mods-MPG and Power

[Blacksheep]

If you want to hit a mudhole like a tard and bounce off the rev limiter, a peaky engine is for you, if you want to do some precision wheeling that takes talent, a high reving engine wont cut it because wheel speed isn't the answer, you need control, nor will it work on the street, not everyone wants to rev the shit out of the engine to make it get out of it's own way. All you're doing when modding a 2.9 is raising the power curve making it more useless.

I rest my case...

well we start about 5ft from the hole. and then go. im talkin about deep and long holes here, not lil baby stuff yall prob have up north. and if u think ur lil 4.0 would last 2 sec. in one of our holes at a local bogg, haha, then bring ur shit down here so all of us ( "southern people") can laugh at u.

http://www.myspace.com/midstatemuddbogg

go there and u will see what im talkin about.

sure most of those trucks prob aint dd, but a 4.0 in those holes pushing 38-44's. haha, yea rite. u need v8 power there

And ill say again, he wasent askin if yall think its worth buildin a 2.9 up or not. which is what yall seem to be stuck on. its his money, let him "waste" it on a 2.9 if he wants. yall thinks v8's suck. i think 4.0' suck. end of story.
nothing else, thats the end of it. think im a stupid redneck who dont know shit. i dont care. just drop it. geez, yall say i get defensive. say one thing bad about a 4.0 and OMG all hell breaks loose.

 

[Blacksheep]

Originally Posted by Blacksheep View Post
they only thing i was sayin is, headers arent useless.... thats it. the dude a ? how to get more power out of his 2.9. -and he was told by 88 mudder and me(i doubt you even know what speed parts are sold for a 2.9)and then advised its not worth it- that will get u more power out of the engine. ok, yall think its a waste of time and money? -yes because its not very usable power,are you too stupid to understand that?- well dropin in a 4.0 is a waste of time and money IMO. if ur gonna do it. then do a 289 swap, or a 5.0, or hell even a 351. why take out one v6 just to put a nother one? cheaper? maybe.... more power sure, common, yea deff. -sorry a 4.0 swap is much easier and cheaper and weighs the same as a 2.9 so it will handle the same and you don't need an alignment.and it bolts right in.there are a lot of people who would say a small block is worthless in an rbv- its pointless to do a 4.0 swap again IMO.


it doesnt matter what "speed" parts are sold for the 2.9. take stock heads, port and polish them, up grade the cam, and port and polish the itake, and maybe some rocker arms on a 2.9. OMG how dare i say such a thing.

i know several people who have v8's in there rangers and dd them. so the drive abilty aint that bad. and about the mustang 4.0 i wasent sayin put one of those in a ranger. they as much as a mustang 5.0 stock. which is bad ass. now the ranger 4.0's how much do they make....? ok then. thats all i was sayin about that. so yall keep the 4.0's. ill go v8. he can keep his stock/modded 2.9. every body goes on with there life. drop it. i dont care what u think about me, i really dont. im not loosin sleep over it.

 

[holyford86]

Blacksheep, Maybe if you didn't sound like a complete idiot when you post things people might take you somewhat more seriously. And arguing like this on the internet doesn't exactly contribute to how intelligent people think you are, even if you win. Not everyone needs to scream a motor through a mudhole to show the size of their testicles (or lack thereof). I for one find that extremely boring, I prefer trails that I can get somewhere in rather than one pit that I go back and forth across. The 2.9 can be a very reliable engine if it is maintained just like any engine. the 2.9 in my truck has 274k miles on it and it still runs extremely well. the motor has never been apart, it has outlived a manual transmission and a rear axle and it's not babied by any means. The 4.0 is far superior to a 2.9 in power, there are motors out there that are far superior to the 4.0 as well. the 4.0 is the most economical swap for a 2.9 powered truck because you can use most of the drivetrain parts that came in the 2.9 powered truck when you swap.

 

[Blacksheep]

Ok, i realize that the 4.0 is a better engine than the 2.9. thats a no brainer. basically how this whole thing got started was, i disagreed with dude about him sayin headers are worthless, and then i told the orginal poster how to get more power out of his 2.9 ( which is what he asked) and thats it. i was done with it, i wasent tryin to piss anybody off or anything like that. and yet i get fucking chastized about every fuckin thing under the sun. so i defend my self. thats it. but aparently i cant do that.

 

[nismotunedgtr]

If it means anything to you guys....

I've put 2k VERY hard miles on my 1992 Ranger STX. It had 140k when I got it.

Done a complete tuneup. Almost everyday she see's 6k shifts, WOT to 60mph. I beat the ever living shit out of this thing and it hasn't skipped once!

And those 6k WOT shifts scare the **** out of me every time. I think "that's the last story from this ol' A4LD" lol

All I've done are home intake and exhaust.... Goes pretty well.

4.0 once the good ol' 2.9 dies. ...don't know if that's going ot happen

 

[blue86]

does any one whether it is worth the money to keep my 2.9

 

[watkins65]

WOW! Just found this old thread I made a while back and forgot about. I had know idea I started such a heated arugement.

Update: I still haven't fixed the ranger. It got put on the back burner while I focused on my DD(2001 Gmc 1500 ecsb 4x4 on 35's) and started college. Now I'm ready to bring it back out of the barn!!! I'm looking for a good deal on heads, I think i've decided to just fix it and make it my DD for awhile. I'm going to see what kind of mpg's I can get out of it. Stock height 2wd 2.9 auto... I'm hoping to get mid 20's with tune-up and fluids, maybe exhaust and intake. What do you guys think?

 

[Gotta_gofast]

Hehehe... quite the internet war. I think its very wise of you to stick with a complete tune-up. That will probably be the only money well spent. Hell, you got a full size. I'd put the "go fast" parts on that before a 2.9L anyway.

 

[watkins65]

Hehehe... quite the internet war. I think its very wise of you to stick with a complete tune-up. That will probably be the only money well spent. Hell, you got a full size. I'd put the "go fast" parts on that before a 2.9L anyway.

Hey i think that's what I'm going to do, make the fullsize the fast truck and try to pull as many mpg's from the ranger as i can...

 

[jaymegriffiths]

It's not worth it man. A 4.0 swap would be easy in your truck! And will put down numbers in stock form a 2.9 will only dream of.

why is everyone so 4.0 happy? ive raced multiple 4.0s and my 2.9 is faster.(5 speed)

 

[Gotta_gofast]

why is everyone so 4.0 happy? ive raced multiple 4.0s and my 2.9 is faster.(5 speed)

You haven't raced a 4.0L with a similar set up to your truck, then. (5 speed 2wd). Or the driver wasn't really "racing" you.

 

[jaymegriffiths]

Ok, i realize that the 4.0 is a better engine than the 2.9. thats a no brainer. basically how this whole thing got started was, i disagreed with dude about him sayin headers are worthless, and then i told the orginal poster how to get more power out of his 2.9 ( which is what he asked) and thats it. i was done with it, i wasent tryin to piss anybody off or anything like that. and yet i get fucking chastized about every fuckin thing under the sun. so i defend my self. thats it. but aparently i cant do that.

Its funny how people become critics as soon as theres no attachment to them. (via internet) i placed a thread very similair to this one and had the same result. i personally am not a fan of the 4.0's but am huge into 2.9 +5.0 swaps. i refuse to 4.0 swap it as i dont think the 4.0 is "better" maybe it has better gas milage, in certain situations, but im not motor swaping anytime soon. I too can be called a hillbilly but i dont live in the south. im canadian, but i friggin wish i could come to that sweet bog fest. if i had time and money to drive there i would. sounds like lots of fun. hoping for a v8 swap soon.


To the original asker. If you ask this question everyone will just tell you 4.0 swap cause it's easy. if you want mods, do headers, why not? or dont i dont care! i think its a cool idea. or gear different. nothing's available. maybe try a cone filter, maybe you can buy a performance chip i dont know. also, a more extreme way for power is forced induction.(ie:turbo, supercharger)other than that. Good luck.

 

[jaymegriffiths]

You haven't raced a 4.0L with a similar set up to your truck, then. (5 speed 2wd). Or the driver wasn't really "racing" you.

your right, it was auto 4x4 hubs unlocked many a time(3 different trucks). ive only seen 1 2wd 5 speed 4.0

 

[jaymegriffiths]

You haven't raced a 4.0L with a similar set up to your truck, then. (5 speed 2wd). Or the driver wasn't really "racing" you.

although the 4.0 is a good engine, i just dont think the swap is for me. Also, they were. 0-145, 2/3 times other was 100-140 but that was against a 2wd explorer of which i didn't beat bt kept up with. again, not trying to start shit. stop being a dick

 

[jaymegriffiths]

I understand wanting to be different (that's why I drive B2), but some things just aren't worth it and the 2.9 is one of those things. Like I told the last person, I'll seriously send you $50 if you turbo a 2.9, a million people have talked about it but I've never seen anyone actually do it.

haha ill turbo mine if there's 50 bucks in it for me!