Cybertruck Reveal

[cbxer55]

This particular tesla self immolated twice. WOW! Gotta have me one of those.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/brand-new-tesla-model-s-spontaneously-combusts-twice

This one did as well, days later.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...days-after-bursting-flames-ntsb-probes-latest

This one caught fire while charging at a supercharger. LMAO!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-02/tesla-spontaneously-combusts-while-plugged-supercharger

This one burned down to almost nothing. Nothing to dispose of I suppose. LOL!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...-catches-fire-and-burns-hours-near-pittsburgh

 

[stmitch]

In theory a 1960's VW bug would work for most of my driving when the weather is nice, 10mi each way. My V8 F-150 with a 22gal tank only sees a gas station once every 2 or 3 weeks.

As long as you are worker bee that only ever does average, yeah that would work great.

Lots of farmers around here so "average" use for a truck would vary from the suburbs.

Lots of farmers in my neck of the woods too. What does an average day look like for you and your truck? What do you do? How much of it's capabilities do you use, and is that worth the cost of operating it? It's fine to have a truck for truck things, but that doesn't mean I need to drive one everywhere I go.
An EV costs about $0.03/mile driven with average electric rates of $0.13/kwh. At current fuel prices, a new Ranger costs about $0.11/mile, and an 06 F150 with a 5.4 costs about $0.17/mile:

Compare Side-by-Side

Compare the MPG of cars and trucks side-by-side. Compare the gas mileage and greenhouse gas emissions of new and used cars and trucks

www.fueleconomy.gov

If you put 15k miles per year on those vehicles, the EV would be $2k cheaper EVERY YEAR than the old F150 just in fuel. Not including maintenance, or a rise in gas prices. Trucks are a great tool, but they're not always the best tool. I'd really suggest looking doing the customized comparison route with your vehicle and any EV to see if the math would work out enough to justify an EV purchase or not> Here's a link to the fully customizeable tool:

Personalize

Personalize your fuel economy estimates using your annual mileage, driving conditions, and fuel costs.

www.fueleconomy.gov

 

[cbxer55]

A search on Zero Hedge using Tesla fires results in so many hits I just don't know where to stop. It just goes on-and-on-and-on. Too many to bother posting. Here's the link. See at the bottom, the amount of pages. It's just WOW! Tesla's are dangerous.

https://www.zerohedge.com/search-co...sla fires&sort_by=search_api_relevance&page=0

 

[fastpakr]

This particular tesla self immolated twice. WOW! Gotta have me one of those.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/brand-new-tesla-model-s-spontaneously-combusts-twice

This one did as well, day s later.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...days-after-bursting-flames-ntsb-probes-latest

This one caught fire while charging at a supercharger. LMAO!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-02/tesla-spontaneously-combusts-while-plugged-supercharger

This one burned down to almost nothing. Nothing to dispose of I suppose. LOL!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...-catches-fire-and-burns-hours-near-pittsburgh

When a website describes its purpose with a "manifesto", any same person should move on without taking it seriously.

 

[cbxer55]

When a website describes its purpose with a "manifesto", any same person should move on without taking it seriously.

Whether a manifesto or not, you cannot deny the links to all the burning teslas. The news they post comes from sources the world over. I've been a member there for over 10 years. I spend more time there than any other forum. Always will. They backed Trump almost from the get-go. Still do. Definitely not pro-democrat.

Just because you do not like the news they post, doesn't make it incorrect.

 

[fastpakr]

If you'd like to post a legitimate piece of information, go for it. If the best you can do is that nonsense, we'll continue laughing at your expense.

 

[stmitch]

This particular tesla self immolated twice. WOW! Gotta have me one of those.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-19/brand-new-tesla-model-s-spontaneously-combusts-twice

This one did as well, day s later.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...days-after-bursting-flames-ntsb-probes-latest

This one caught fire while charging at a supercharger. LMAO!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-02/tesla-spontaneously-combusts-while-plugged-supercharger

This one burned down to almost nothing. Nothing to dispose of I suppose. LOL!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...-catches-fire-and-burns-hours-near-pittsburgh

First, an issue with Teslas doesn't equate to an issue with all EVs. Second, if an ICE catches fire, they're not going to save anything either. Go look at a car auction site like Copart and see how many burned cars there are.

Kia had to recall half a million ICE powered vehicles recently due to fire risk:

Hyundai, Kia recall over 500,000 vehicles due to engine fire risk

The automakers are adding recalls after reports of fires caused by high exhaust gas temperatures and oil leaks

www.cbsnews.com

Pintos are famous for having gas tanks that would explode in collisions frequently enough for this paint job to make sense:

 

[cbxer55]

ICE vehicles outnumber sparky vehicles millions to one. And yet, for that huge disparity, there sure seems to be a lot of articles on burning electric vehicles, mainly teslas. I am sure happy I live in an apartment (with garages), where electric vehicle chargers are not allowed, due to the fire hazard. I sleep better at night knowing there are no sparky vehicles anywhere near my five vehicles (all garage kept except the Ranger).

Pintos haven't been around for years. Haven't seen one in so long, I tend to forget they existed. There was a recall on them iirc. My brother had one, with a 302 under the hood. It never caught fire. LMAO!!

I would take my chances with an old Pinto before I'd ever even be a passenger in a sparky vehicle. One spark, BOOM. GONE!

 

[Dirtman]

There were more than 3 million pintos made. 27 people died... that's actually better than most cars from that era. Not sure the relevance here but if you wanna insult a pinto learn the facts first lol.

 

[cbxer55]

There were more than 3 million pintos made. 27 people died... that's actually better than most cars from that era. Not sure the relevance here but if you wanna insult a pinto learn the facts first lol.

And they were likely accidents. They just didn't go boom while parked one day/night. All by themselves. Gotta love vehicles that do their very own insurance burns. No help from the owner or anyone else. Just sittin there. BOOM. GONE!

 

[cbxer55]

If you'd like to post a legitimate piece of information, go for it. If the best you can do is that nonsense, we'll continue laughing at your expense.

Just because the news doesn't fit your agenda, doesn't make it false. Witness the NHTSA investigating tesla for both fires and the auto pilot function. It's about focking time. There's more than these four. Too much information. LMAO!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/nhtsa-finally-looking-tesla-battery-fire-issues

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/nhtsa-opens-inquiry-teslas-smart-summon-shtshow

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...s-ntsb-probing-horrific-tesla-deathtrap-crash

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...autopilot-may-increase-risk-crashes-disputing

 

[fastpakr]

Again - not a single article from anything resembling a real source.

It's not about fitting -my- agenda. It's about finding information from a place that doesn't -have- an agenda.

You might as well post something from the National Enquirer.

 

[stmitch]

There were more than 3 million pintos made. 27 people died... that's actually better than most cars from that era. Not sure the relevance here but if you wanna insult a pinto learn the facts first lol.

Really?! We're defending Pintos now like they're sacred? Unless all 3 million of them were in rear end collisions, it doesn't matter how many they made. A high enough percentage of them were involved in collisions and caught fire that it was deemed less safe than similar vehicles. They recalled 1.5 million of them because the design was shitty and dangerous. If we're going to skewer Elon for a potentially dangerous design flaw (knock yourselves out), lets at least acknowledge that ICEs have had dangerous design flaws too.

Fires from Kias or Pintos, Takata airbags, GM ignition switches, Toyota unintended acceleration, FCA's auto trans shifters not staying in gear, Ford's Explorer/Firestone disaster, Mazda 6 Subframe rust, Tacoma frames rusting in half, etc, etc. No manufacturer is immune to this.

 

[JOLENE_THE_RANGER]

this is getting good.

 

[Dirtman]

Tesla used takata airbags too.