Project: Moose-Knuckle

LittleBigFoot · 09-11-2008, 12:22 AM

TOTM INFO:

2000 Ford Ranger XLT, 3.0l flex (DEAD) 4r44e auto with electric BW1354

Front:

Full Width HP Dana 44
Molly shafts
4.30:1 gearing
Open diff
52" Chevy leaves with 8" shackles
3/4 ton ford van power steering box
1 ton TRE's
Home built high angle drive shaft (tom woods can eat my shaft)
Home brew shock hoops
Warn lock outs

Rear:
31 spline 9"
Molly shafts
4.30:1 gearing
Open diff
63" chevy 1/2 ton leaves
Belltech shackles
2" block
5/8 u-bolts
Cantilever shock system
Home made drive shaft with 1350 yokes
Tone Ring is a BMX bike gear tacked to the pinion yoke with a bracket for the vss.

General:
Around 8ish inches of lift
35x15r15 super swamper LTBs on gnarly offset stock 79 Bronco Rims
82" track width (out side of tire to outside of tire)
112" wheel base
Measured at 22" of wheel travel front and rear
Tube stinger bumper made of .120" wall, 1.75" O.D. HREW with front receiver hitch
Home brew rock sliders made of .120 wall 2" O.D. HREW
33 gallon fuel tank from a 84 bronco massaged between the frame rails
Custom home brew "flat bed" made of 1.75" O.D. .120" wall square stock and diamond plate
A few spare tire carriers
Cobra CB with 48" antenna
Amo box center concile
Rubber undercoated floor with drain plugs

Fried the rings in my 3.0. Pulling the 3.0 currently, and am building a supercharged 408 or 427w w/ a C6 trans. Still dealing with transfercase options. Trying to rig up passenger drop to run a Chevy Dana60 (cost)
Looking at a np203 range box bolted up to a pass drop NP205.

IT'S NEVER OVER.

Still some work to do.

odie1969 · 09-11-2008, 12:55 AM

just wondering what your plan is for the RABS sensor. you might think of mounting a tone ring on the driveshaft. a good place for info about it is dezertranger.com

LittleBigFoot · 09-11-2008, 12:58 AM

ABS are for pussies. And people in shape.

Hahnsb2 · 09-11-2008, 01:19 AM

I think the RABS tone ring is also the speed sensor (for the speedo and computer) on the later model rigs...

c_note · 09-11-2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hahnsb2

I think the RABS tone ring is also the speed sensor (for the speedo and computer) on the later model rigs...

true!

LittleBigFoot · 09-11-2008, 05:15 AM

http://members.aol.com/jzettel73/Mil...le_Swap_5.html

Tone Ring Change Calculations

Tire Circumference: 35" x 3.1416 = 109.956"

Revolutions per Mile = 63,360 / 109.956" = 576.2304
(63,360 is the amount of inches per mile)

Conversion Constant = 576.2304 x 108 / 8,000 = 7.7791104
(108 is the number of teath on the tone ring. 8,000 is a the number of pulses per mile the PSOM needs to be accurate)

Teeth on New Sensor Gear =

(8,000 x Conversion Constant) / (Tire Rev. per Mile x Ring & Pinion Ratio)

(8,000 x 7.791104) / (576.2304 x 5.13) = 21.085

Now the question is, should I use the stock ratio for ring and pinion, (4.10:1) or the not installed but desired gear ratio?

I will have a gear made with 21 teeth at a machine shop. I'll do it up like this dude did:

Adam

LittleBigFoot · 09-11-2008, 05:17 AM

And I've heard different things from tons of different people about not using the VSS with automatic trannys and not having shifting issues or ABS issues.

I'll pull the vss tomorrow and give her a cruise and see if it even works. I know the ABS light will stay on. But hapiness is just a bulb pull away

CopyKat · 09-11-2008, 08:53 AM

Best one I've seen done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IZwack

This is what I did when I switched to the GM 14-bolt axle:

Tone ring cut from an old Dana 44 carrier bearing and then welded to the transfer case's output flange:

Ford 8.8 sensor mounted on the transfer case:

This is the sensor up against the tone ring:

Calculation for the number of "teeth" count required at the transfer case mounted tone ring:
New Teeth Count = [Old tone ring teeth count] / [Gear Ratio of differential]

The old tone ring of course is the one pressed onto your old Ford 8.8's carrier.

mhughes165 · 09-11-2008, 09:06 AM

how does he plan on ahving the bolts go all the way through that flange with the tone ring overlapping

**metalmacguyver** · 09-11-2008, 09:47 AM

Hahahahaha, I knew you would come full circle on this Adam. Here you are right back where you started, Sasing the ranger.......

**crawlin91** · 09-11-2008, 12:08 PM

moose knuckle...because camel toe has an ugly cousin

Should be one sick ranger when you are done.

Toreadorranger · 09-11-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mhughes165

how does he plan on ahving the bolts go all the way through that flange with the tone ring overlapping

That setup is on an explorer and has been used and abused. He has the correct length bolts, that engage the thread but dont stick out the backside.

09-11-2008, 12:22 AM	#1
LittleBigFoot Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Year: 79-00 Make: Mostly Ford. Model: Rangerish-Broncoish-Truggyish Thing. Engine: Building a 408w Class: 4x4 Extreme / Race Used For: The 13th step of the 12 step program. Posts: 1,654 Rep Power: 15 iTrader: (0)	Project: Moose-Knuckle TOTM INFO: 2000 Ford Ranger XLT, 3.0l flex (DEAD) 4r44e auto with electric BW1354 Front: Full Width HP Dana 44 Molly shafts 4.30:1 gearing Open diff 52" Chevy leaves with 8" shackles 3/4 ton ford van power steering box 1 ton TRE's Home built high angle drive shaft (tom woods can eat my shaft) Home brew shock hoops Warn lock outs Rear: 31 spline 9" Molly shafts 4.30:1 gearing Open diff 63" chevy 1/2 ton leaves Belltech shackles 2" block 5/8 u-bolts Cantilever shock system Home made drive shaft with 1350 yokes Tone Ring is a BMX bike gear tacked to the pinion yoke with a bracket for the vss. General: Around 8ish inches of lift 35x15r15 super swamper LTBs on gnarly offset stock 79 Bronco Rims 82" track width (out side of tire to outside of tire) 112" wheel base Measured at 22" of wheel travel front and rear Tube stinger bumper made of .120" wall, 1.75" O.D. HREW with front receiver hitch Home brew rock sliders made of .120 wall 2" O.D. HREW 33 gallon fuel tank from a 84 bronco massaged between the frame rails Custom home brew "flat bed" made of 1.75" O.D. .120" wall square stock and diamond plate A few spare tire carriers Cobra CB with 48" antenna Amo box center concile Rubber undercoated floor with drain plugs Fried the rings in my 3.0. Pulling the 3.0 currently, and am building a supercharged 408 or 427w w/ a C6 trans. Still dealing with transfercase options. Trying to rig up passenger drop to run a Chevy Dana60 (cost) Looking at a np203 range box bolted up to a pass drop NP205. IT'S NEVER OVER. Still some work to do. __________________ Wheeler: Ranger With Some Stuff Done DD/Tow Pig: 1972 F250 With Some Stuff Getting Done Last edited by LittleBigFoot; 12-16-2009 at 08:03 PM.
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09-11-2008, 12:55 AM	#2
odie1969 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: tempe Az Year: 1987 Make: Ford Model: 87 stx Engine: 4.0l sohc Class: 4x4 Posts: 1,271 Rep Power: 14 iTrader: (2)	just wondering what your plan is for the RABS sensor. you might think of mounting a tone ring on the driveshaft. a good place for info about it is dezertranger.com __________________ Plz no grammer NAZIS I know my spelling and grammer sucks. thanks. 2001 ranger 3.0l 2wd posed out with prerunner fronts. 1987 ranger 2.9l 4wd stx (swaping in 4.0l sohc trans and 8.8) 1969 mercury cougar conv. 351w virgin as mary 1964 MG Midget 1275cc motor 1996 mustang Gt conv. 4.6l steeda susp. parts
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09-11-2008, 12:58 AM	#3
LittleBigFoot Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Year: 79-00 Make: Mostly Ford. Model: Rangerish-Broncoish-Truggyish Thing. Engine: Building a 408w Class: 4x4 Extreme / Race Used For: The 13th step of the 12 step program. Posts: 1,654 Rep Power: 15 iTrader: (0)	ABS are for pussies. And people in shape. __________________ Wheeler: Ranger With Some Stuff Done DD/Tow Pig: 1972 F250 With Some Stuff Getting Done
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09-11-2008, 01:19 AM	#4
Hahnsb2 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Battle Ground WA Year: 88-95 Make: Ford-Dodge Model: BII-Dakota Engine: 4.0-5.2 Turbo Class: Real 4WD, 3WD. Used For: Going where I point it-Going fast Posts: 4,408 Rep Power: 24 iTrader: (1)	I think the RABS tone ring is also the speed sensor (for the speedo and computer) on the later model rigs... __________________ 88 Bronco II, 4.0L, M5OD, 4.56s, Aussie Locked 8.8/D35, 1354M, 34" LTBs 95 Dakota CC, 5.2, 5 Spd, 2WD,Turbo, Megasquirt, 3.55s, Locked
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09-11-2008, 05:15 AM	#6
LittleBigFoot Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Year: 79-00 Make: Mostly Ford. Model: Rangerish-Broncoish-Truggyish Thing. Engine: Building a 408w Class: 4x4 Extreme / Race Used For: The 13th step of the 12 step program. Posts: 1,654 Rep Power: 15 iTrader: (0)	http://members.aol.com/jzettel73/Mil...le_Swap_5.html Tone Ring Change Calculations Tire Circumference: 35" x 3.1416 = 109.956" Revolutions per Mile = 63,360 / 109.956" = 576.2304 (63,360 is the amount of inches per mile) Conversion Constant = 576.2304 x 108 / 8,000 = 7.7791104 (108 is the number of teath on the tone ring. 8,000 is a the number of pulses per mile the PSOM needs to be accurate) Teeth on New Sensor Gear = (8,000 x Conversion Constant) / (Tire Rev. per Mile x Ring & Pinion Ratio) (8,000 x 7.791104) / (576.2304 x 5.13) = 21.085 Now the question is, should I use the stock ratio for ring and pinion, (4.10:1) or the not installed but desired gear ratio? I will have a gear made with 21 teeth at a machine shop. I'll do it up like this dude did: Adam __________________ Wheeler: Ranger With Some Stuff Done DD/Tow Pig: 1972 F250 With Some Stuff Getting Done
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09-11-2008, 05:17 AM	#7
LittleBigFoot Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Year: 79-00 Make: Mostly Ford. Model: Rangerish-Broncoish-Truggyish Thing. Engine: Building a 408w Class: 4x4 Extreme / Race Used For: The 13th step of the 12 step program. Posts: 1,654 Rep Power: 15 iTrader: (0)	And I've heard different things from tons of different people about not using the VSS with automatic trannys and not having shifting issues or ABS issues. I'll pull the vss tomorrow and give her a cruise and see if it even works. I know the ABS light will stay on. But hapiness is just a bulb pull away __________________ Wheeler: Ranger With Some Stuff Done DD/Tow Pig: 1972 F250 With Some Stuff Getting Done
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09-11-2008, 09:47 AM	#10
metalmacguyver Yeah, I built that. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Plymouth MA home, Buzzards Bay MA Year: 1997, 1994 Make: Ford Model: Ranger, F350 Engine: 4.0, 7.3 Class: 4x4 Extreme Used For: Working and Wheeling Posts: 3,822 Rep Power: 10 iTrader: (28)	Hahahahaha, I knew you would come full circle on this Adam. Here you are right back where you started, Sasing the ranger....... __________________ Horsepower is how fast you hit a wall. Torque is how far you move a wall. http://www.therangerstation.com/foru...ad.php?t=21890 1994 F350 7.3L PSD, 5spd, DD/tow rig, 2wd for now... 1997 Excab/4.0/5spd/Manual1354/4.88/locked F/R /35"BFG MTs/WarnXD9000i/6"lift/HYDROBOOST!!/Extended radius arms/Wheeling only.
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09-11-2008, 12:08 PM	#11
crawlin91 I ain't got time to bleed Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Crawlorado Year: 91,92 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Engine: 2.9, 4.0 Class: 4x4 Used For: running stuff over Posts: 2,318 Rep Power: 29 iTrader: (2)	moose knuckle...because camel toe has an ugly cousin Should be one sick ranger when you are done.
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