hard steering while locked in

DangerRanger · 09-10-2008, 10:53 AM

Is there a such thing as a high performance power steering pump for a ranger?
My truck does not always want to turn since I put the 35"SX's on it while it is locked in. The steering wheel stops and the belt squeeks a little, but it's as if it don't have enough pressure/power to turn it or something?

Any ideas????? (besides belt tension)

**MAKG** · 09-10-2008, 10:59 AM

It's always hard to steer a locked front end. You have good traction and do not need the locker. Put in a stronger steering system, and you'll break stuff. SOMEthing has to give. It's supposed to be the dirt/mud/whatever under the tires, but failing that, wouldn't you rather have the belt squeal a bit, as opposed to an axleshaft breaking?

Ranger44 · 09-10-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DangerRanger

Any ideas????? (besides belt tension)

Saginaw:
There was another guy who put a saginaw pump on a 4.0. He's got a small "write-up" on car domain. But here's what I did on my 2.3. I will be swapping this over to my 4.0.
http://www.therangerstation.com/foru...pump+installed

The only other option is an AGR pump. They are expensive and are basically a souped up stock pump.

gotmudd · 09-10-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MAKG

It's always hard to steer a locked front end. You have good traction and do not need the locker. Put in a stronger steering system, and you'll break stuff. SOMEthing has to give. It's supposed to be the dirt/mud/whatever under the tires, but failing that, wouldn't you rather have the belt squeal a bit, as opposed to an axleshaft breaking?

considering the fact that he's trying to turn 35 inch tires as opposed to say what, 28 inch tires that it came off the line with, yeah i'd have to say that maybe he needs a little stronger pump. it could be that his pump might be going south on vacation and he just didn't notice it until he put the bigger 'feet' on. as for breaking stuff, that's the chance you take when you put oversized stuff on your ride, you just have to justify it by re-inforcing what you have. that is also why they have axle upgrades for lifted trucks running lots of power and or lower gears, so that you don't break stuff. and since he is after all asking for opinions, this is just my opinion, FWIW. right or wrong if it was me, i'd upgrade to a pump off of an F150, providing that all the fitting matched up. i've never dealt with ranger stearing so i don't know if that is feasable or not. i have however seen guy's back home swap out stearing box and pump from Fseries pick-ups into broncoII's that have been lifted with no adverse side affects. basically if i understand the guy's problem he just doesn't have the pump pressure to turn them oversized tires.

Yellowsplash · 09-10-2008, 03:25 PM

The steering gear box is actually the same on both a ranger and f-150.

Evan · 09-10-2008, 05:54 PM

Maybe you have a problem with your steering system?

I have no problem turning my 35s on a locked front, and my steering is bone stock.

**4x4junkie** · 09-10-2008, 07:05 PM

I would start with the little stuff first.

Tighten that belt.

Bent Bolt · 09-10-2008, 10:36 PM

How wide are your wheels and what kind of backspacing ??

09-10-2008, 10:53 AM	#1
DangerRanger Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, In Year: 1990 Ranger 4x4 Engine: 2.9 Class: 4x4 Modified Posts: 41 Rep Power: 12 iTrader: (0)	hard steering while locked in Is there a such thing as a high performance power steering pump for a ranger? My truck does not always want to turn since I put the 35"SX's on it while it is locked in. The steering wheel stops and the belt squeeks a little, but it's as if it don't have enough pressure/power to turn it or something? Any ideas????? (besides belt tension) __________________ 1990 Ranger 4" lift /3" body lift, 35x15.5 SX's, 8.8 w/ Detroit Locker Dana 35 front w/ECTED, 4.56's extended radius arms, EB springs, long Duff shocks, Snorkel, Tabor 9K winch, dual batteries, Electric fan, External roll cage, on-board air, bobbed bed, and some other stuff
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09-10-2008, 10:59 AM	#2
MAKG RBV Technical Advisor Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: California central coast Year: 1991 Make: Ford Model: Explorer Engine: 4.0L Class: 4x4 Posts: 4,643 Rep Power: 21 iTrader: (0)	It's always hard to steer a locked front end. You have good traction and do not need the locker. Put in a stronger steering system, and you'll break stuff. SOMEthing has to give. It's supposed to be the dirt/mud/whatever under the tires, but failing that, wouldn't you rather have the belt squeal a bit, as opposed to an axleshaft breaking? __________________ 1990 VW Jetta GL, 1.8L 8V gasoline engine, manual transmission, painted in oxidized red paint and ponderosa pine sap, unknown mileage. 1991 Exploder, 4.0L, M5OD-R1 manual transmission, electronic BW1354 transfer case, 3.54 gears, 31 inch tires, icky two-tone blue paint with little clear coat, 230K miles. 1972 Chevy C-10, 250 I-6, SM465 (2WD) four-on-the-floor, 3.73 gears in a GM 12-bolt, puke green with a white cab. The "4 wheeled trash can," with x70K miles. x is probably 2.
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09-10-2008, 03:25 PM	#5
Yellowsplash Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Morgantown, WV Year: 1995 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Splash Engine: 4.0 V6 Class: 4x4 Off-Road Posts: 807 Rep Power: 13 iTrader: (4)	The steering gear box is actually the same on both a ranger and f-150. __________________ 95 Ranger Splash, 4.0, M5OD-R1, BW1354M, D35, Exploder 8.8 31spl 4.88, No-Slip, SJ Class II 8" Lift, 3" BL, F250 Shock Towers, Bilsteins, 1pc DS, 35" BFG M/T KM2s on 15x10s... 95 Explorer, 01 ST, 03 Explorer 4.6 2V V8, 08 ST Adrenalin 4.6 3V V8
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09-10-2008, 05:54 PM	#6
Evan Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Stevens Point, WI Year: 1991 Make: Ford Model: Explorer Sport Engine: 4.0 OHV Class: 4X4 Extreme Used For: Wheelin Posts: 1,374 Rep Power: 14 iTrader: (0)	Maybe you have a problem with your steering system? I have no problem turning my 35s on a locked front, and my steering is bone stock. __________________ 2001 Mustang Cobra SVT convertible: 5-speed, 320HP V8, 0-60 in 4.8 2009 Chevy Aveo 5-door LS: 5-speed, DD
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09-10-2008, 07:05 PM	#7
4x4junkie Mall-Rated Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: So. Calif (SFV) Year: 1990,1994 Make: Ford Model: Bronco II, Ranger Engine: 2.9L, 4.0L Used For: Crawling over things Posts: 8,003 Rep Power: 10 iTrader: (0)	I would start with the little stuff first. Tighten that belt. __________________ '90 Bronco II XLT 5" lift (Skyjacker Jeep coils), D35 & 8.8" w/5.13s (locked), 1354 dual T-case, 35x12.50s '94 Ranger XLT 6" Skyjacker, ARB D44 front, Detroit 8.8" rear, Atlas 4.3, 33s
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09-10-2008, 10:36 PM	#8
Bent Bolt Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Edmonton,AB Year: 1987 Make: Ford Model: Ranger STX Engine: Supercharged 4.0 SOHC Class: 4x4 Offroad Used For: Breaking parts , sitting in the back lot Posts: 1,423 Rep Power: 14 iTrader: (0)	How wide are your wheels and what kind of backspacing ?? __________________ 87 Ranger , a bunch of stuff including a supercharged 4.0l SOHC and 35 x 14.5 x 15 Pitbull Maddog's. Woof ! Now with C5/C4 hybrid !
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