Connecting clutch line to clutch slave?

Zorro · 04-29-2008, 07:49 PM

Is there a trick to this?

I got a new clutch kit, including the slave, am re-using the old line and male connector.

I just spent 15 minutes trying to get it to snap, to no avail. I don't even think it goes in enough to snap anyways.

I really wouldn't want to break the female connector on the slave and have to take it all apart again to fix it.

Maybe the old O-ring on the male connector has become too fat (yes, I was re-using it because I had forgotten about the new one that comes with the kit ... will change that)? Maybe the plastic ring is preventing things? Should I open the bleeder to relieve the pressure as I try to connect the line?

**rboyer** · 04-29-2008, 08:21 PM

Shouldn't have to open the bleeder. Put on the new o-ring, rub some fluid on it, and jam it in there.

**Jspafford** · 04-29-2008, 10:21 PM

If you open the bleeder you will have to bleed the system.

Did they give you the correct slave? It should go in rather easily and lock into place.

Zorro · 04-30-2008, 09:40 AM

Oh shit.

I just looked at my slave kit. It says it's for 93-97 trucks. My Ranger is a 94, but the Exploder the clutch line is from is a 91.

Are those f*cking quick connects different from year to year????? Dammit.

Maybe replacing the clutch slave wasn't a great idea after all.

**mjonesjr** · 04-30-2008, 09:53 AM

All '91+ Explorers & Rangers use the same hydraulic clutch line. Even the '97+ Rangers use the same clutch, clutch hydraulic line, pressure plate, and slave cylinder.

There might be something in the end of the line or slave cylinder preventing the line from going in.

Zorro · 04-30-2008, 09:54 AM

The Explorer is a '91. Check my "construction" thread, they're far from identical after all.

I feel like a jackass for not checking it before it was all on the truck now.

**mjonesjr** · 04-30-2008, 09:54 AM

The '91 Explorer is no different. They all use the same setup.

I put a '03 Ranger clutch, slave cylinder, and M50D-R1HD in my '97 Ranger when I did the manual transmission swap.

Zorro · 04-30-2008, 10:13 AM

Depth is identical, as well as inside diameter. What may be wrong is the little pin in the middle ... maybe it's bigger?

I don't know how identical it is, but I can tell it doesn't fit. And I've actually pried it!

thegoat4 · 04-30-2008, 10:22 AM

How hard did you have to push on the transmission to get the bell housings to touch? If you had to push hard, or draw it up with the bolts, (that's a no-no) you've got pressure on the clutch diaphram, which means pressure in the slave, which will make it damn hard to install the line. It will feel like it simply does not fit. Either back the tranny off again to relieve the pressure and connect the line before bolting it back up, or crack the bleeder and let the pressure off the slave slowly. if you crack it slowly and pay attention, you won't wind up having to bleed it.

**MAKG** · 04-30-2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjones

The '91 Explorer is no different. They all use the same setup.

I put a '03 Ranger clutch, slave cylinder, and M50D-R1HD in my '97 Ranger when I did the manual transmission swap.

NO NO NO NO NO!

There are TWO distinct quick-connect fittings. They are similar, but do NOT interchange.

You need a '91 slave.

Zorro · 04-30-2008, 11:28 AM

Urgh.

This is what I feared.

Will try to find a Ranger master at the scrap yard. Wish I could've planned it and not wasted any time.

**rboyer** · 04-30-2008, 09:28 PM

Since you're this far into it, wouldn't it just be easier to get the hydraulic line that matches the slave?

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rboyer Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Year: 1994 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Engine: 4.hoe Class: 6 inches! Posts: 767 Rep Power: 13 iTrader: (8)	Shouldn't have to open the bleeder. Put on the new o-ring, rub some fluid on it, and jam it in there.
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Zorro Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Year: 1994 Make: Ford Model: Ranger 4.0 4x4 Posts: 182 Rep Power: 11 iTrader: (0)	Oh shit. I just looked at my slave kit. It says it's for 93-97 trucks. My Ranger is a 94, but the Exploder the clutch line is from is a 91. Are those fcking quick connects different from year to year????? Dammit. Maybe replacing the clutch slave wasn't a great idea after all. Last edited by Zorro; 04-30-2008 at 09:49 AM.*
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Zorro Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Year: 1994 Make: Ford Model: Ranger 4.0 4x4 Posts: 182 Rep Power: 11 iTrader: (0)	The Explorer is a '91. Check my "construction" thread, they're far from identical after all. I feel like a jackass for not checking it before it was all on the truck now.
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04-30-2008, 10:13 AM	#8
Zorro Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Year: 1994 Make: Ford Model: Ranger 4.0 4x4 Posts: 182 Rep Power: 11 iTrader: (0)	Depth is identical, as well as inside diameter. What may be wrong is the little pin in the middle ... maybe it's bigger? I don't know how identical it is, but I can tell it doesn't fit. And I've actually pried it!
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04-30-2008, 10:22 AM	#9
thegoat4 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Year: 1998 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Posts: 614 Rep Power: 13 iTrader: (0)	How hard did you have to push on the transmission to get the bell housings to touch? If you had to push hard, or draw it up with the bolts, (that's a no-no) you've got pressure on the clutch diaphram, which means pressure in the slave, which will make it damn hard to install the line. It will feel like it simply does not fit. Either back the tranny off again to relieve the pressure and connect the line before bolting it back up, or crack the bleeder and let the pressure off the slave slowly. if you crack it slowly and pay attention, you won't wind up having to bleed it.
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04-30-2008, 11:28 AM	#11
Zorro Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Year: 1994 Make: Ford Model: Ranger 4.0 4x4 Posts: 182 Rep Power: 11 iTrader: (0)	Urgh. This is what I feared. Will try to find a Ranger master at the scrap yard. Wish I could've planned it and not wasted any time. Last edited by Zorro; 04-30-2008 at 12:11 PM.
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04-30-2008, 09:28 PM	#12
rboyer Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Year: 1994 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Engine: 4.hoe Class: 6 inches! Posts: 767 Rep Power: 13 iTrader: (8)	Since you're this far into it, wouldn't it just be easier to get the hydraulic line that matches the slave?
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