Rubicon Dana 44

**aspevacek** · 06-30-2012, 07:11 PM

Has anyone looked into using the newer Jeep Rubicon Dana 44 Axels to do an SAS with? They seem, on paper like they would be decent axels to use for a Ranger SAS swap. I am just wondering if anyone else has looked into them.

**88_Eddie** · 06-30-2012, 07:48 PM

unless you find a damn good deal, they're too expensive for what you're getting.

the only difference between a rubi 44 and a d30 is that the center section and inner axles are larger. from the knuckle out is the same as a d30. what always breaks on a d30? the outer shafts/u-joints.

so i'd rather just use a HP D30. parts are available anywhere and i know of 5 off the top of my head that i could have for less than $100

85_Ranger4x4 · 06-30-2012, 08:59 PM

I think they went across the board with them, so in a couple years the prices of them should be coming down as the market floods.

**4.0B2** · 06-30-2012, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88_Eddie

unless you find a damn good deal, they're too expensive for what you're getting.

the only difference between a rubi 44 and a d30 is that the center section and inner axles are larger. from the knuckle out is the same as a d30. what always breaks on a d30? the outer shafts/u-joints.

so i'd rather just use a HP D30. parts are available anywhere and i know of 5 off the top of my head that i could have for less than $100

this.
if you can get a d44 front and rear matching combo cheap, go for it... rubi's are locked and 4.10's. they are nice axles for what they are. however most people want like 3 grand.. and for 3 grand you can build a nice 14 bolt/kingpin 60 locked and geared... yeah, not worth the rubi 44's unless you can get them CHEAP.

in the future, if they go down pricewise... maybe. until then, not a chance for the going price.

**4x4junkie** · 07-01-2012, 05:06 PM

I'm not sure, but I think he might be asking about the JK axle.

If I recall correctly, these have some sturdy parts like 32 spline shafts (with 30 or 32 spline outers, can't recall), a 1.625" pinion shaft (same as the 8.8"), and are hi-pinion, but have weak housings (makes sense, nearly everyone sells gusset kits for them).
The JK axle IIRC is 65" wide however, putting it within half-inch of an F-150 D44, and has a less-common 5x5.0" lug pattern.

projectnitemare · 07-02-2012, 07:00 AM

They don't take a standard D44 gearset so gearing selection is rather limited and expensive. Sure they are better than standard fare jeep stuff but the tried and true standard D44 would be cheaper and easier to work with in the long run.

Matt

**aspevacek** · 07-03-2012, 11:11 AM

It is in fact the JK axels I am talking about. Looking at what you get for the money they did not seem to bad to me. A buddy can score them at cost for me. putting them right around 1k each. That is complete brake rotor to Rotor. I did not look into gearing options as of yet but have toyed with the idea of grabbing a pair.

Explorin94 · 07-03-2012, 12:26 PM

The rubicon axle are in there own group as for parts, meaning width and gear sets. IIRC they are 1.5 inches wider per side than any other 44's. The gear sets are known as "thick" meaning they are thicker than a normal 44 which are skinnier than the rubicons. All the rubicon gears should end in "T" or "RUB" and can only be had in 4.11, 4.56, 4.88 and 5.13 they are also factory electric lockers. The tubes are weaker but have outstanding selections for upgradable parts like "C" strengtheners and tube inserts which are put inside the stock tube for more strength. They all 5on 5 bolt pattern.

85_Ranger4x4 · 07-03-2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspevacek

It is in fact the JK axels I am talking about. Looking at what you get for the money they did not seem to bad to me. A buddy can score them at cost for me. putting them right around 1k each. That is complete brake rotor to Rotor. I did not look into gearing options as of yet but have toyed with the idea of grabbing a pair.

That is high for a pair of D60's IMO.

A guy has a D60 out of an old Dodge with a free 14b for $500 on craigslist up in Omaha right now.

**kryptonitecb** · 07-03-2012, 01:47 PM

^^^^^
Is why IMO it ain't worth it

Sent from the road while ignoring traffic

cdawall · 07-03-2012, 11:20 PM

They are not bad axles if you build them up but for the same money you could just build 1 tons.

**4.0B2** · 07-03-2012, 11:23 PM

yeah, do some skids and c-gussets with RCV's... and you're good. but.... pricey.

06-30-2012, 07:11 PM	#1
aspevacek Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Harrisburg PA Year: 97 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Splash Engine: 4.0 OHV Class: JD 5.5" Stage 3 Used For: wife drives it to work Posts: 257 Rep Power: 8 iTrader: (0)	Rubicon Dana 44 Has anyone looked into using the newer Jeep Rubicon Dana 44 Axels to do an SAS with? They seem, on paper like they would be decent axels to use for a Ranger SAS swap. I am just wondering if anyone else has looked into them.
	Tweet

06-30-2012, 08:59 PM	#3
85_Ranger4x4 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Between Omaha & Des Moines Year: 1985 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Engine: 5.0 Class: 4x4 Used For: A weapon of massive consumption. Posts: 11,186 Rep Power: 51 iTrader: (0)	I think they went across the board with them, so in a couple years the prices of them should be coming down as the market floods. __________________ 1985 Ford Ranger Custom, 4x4, PA 3" BL, 5.0 HO wannabe, C5 Transmixer, 31 spline T/L 8.8 w/ disc brakes. Build Thread My Ranger is not old; no one would call her old. She has a bluff bow, lovely lines. She's a fine truck: weatherly, stiff and fast... very fast, if she's well handled. No, she's not old; she's in her prime.
	Tweet

07-01-2012, 05:06 PM	#5
4x4junkie Mall-Rated Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: So. Calif (SFV) Year: 1990,1994 Make: Ford Model: Bronco II, Ranger Engine: 2.9L, 4.0L Used For: Crawling over things Posts: 8,002 Rep Power: 10 iTrader: (0)	I'm not sure, but I think he might be asking about the JK axle. If I recall correctly, these have some sturdy parts like 32 spline shafts (with 30 or 32 spline outers, can't recall), a 1.625" pinion shaft (same as the 8.8"), and are hi-pinion, but have weak housings (makes sense, nearly everyone sells gusset kits for them). The JK axle IIRC is 65" wide however, putting it within half-inch of an F-150 D44, and has a less-common 5x5.0" lug pattern. __________________ '90 Bronco II XLT 5" lift (Skyjacker Jeep coils), D35 & 8.8" w/5.13s (locked), 1354 dual T-case, 35x12.50s '94 Ranger XLT 6" Skyjacker, ARB D44 front, Detroit 8.8" rear, Atlas 4.3, 33s
	Tweet

07-02-2012, 07:00 AM	#6
projectnitemare Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Osceola Mills, Pa Year: 1988 Make: Ford Model: Ranger XLT Engine: 396W Class: 4x4 Extreme Posts: 1,111 Rep Power: 15 iTrader: (2)	They don't take a standard D44 gearset so gearing selection is rather limited and expensive. Sure they are better than standard fare jeep stuff but the tried and true standard D44 would be cheaper and easier to work with in the long run. Matt __________________ 88 Ranger XLT 4x4, no drivetrain, no frame, nothing....new stroker, frame and drivetrain in the works
	Tweet

07-03-2012, 11:11 AM	#7
aspevacek Premium Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Harrisburg PA Year: 97 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Splash Engine: 4.0 OHV Class: JD 5.5" Stage 3 Used For: wife drives it to work Posts: 257 Rep Power: 8 iTrader: (0)	It is in fact the JK axels I am talking about. Looking at what you get for the money they did not seem to bad to me. A buddy can score them at cost for me. putting them right around 1k each. That is complete brake rotor to Rotor. I did not look into gearing options as of yet but have toyed with the idea of grabbing a pair.
	Tweet

07-03-2012, 12:26 PM	#8
Explorin94 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Farmington Il. Year: 1988 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Engine: 4.0 Class: 4x4 Used For: Trail Slut Posts: 2,135 Rep Power: 19 iTrader: (1)	The rubicon axle are in there own group as for parts, meaning width and gear sets. IIRC they are 1.5 inches wider per side than any other 44's. The gear sets are known as "thick" meaning they are thicker than a normal 44 which are skinnier than the rubicons. All the rubicon gears should end in "T" or "RUB" and can only be had in 4.11, 4.56, 4.88 and 5.13 they are also factory electric lockers. The tubes are weaker but have outstanding selections for upgradable parts like "C" strengtheners and tube inserts which are put inside the stock tube for more strength. They all 5on 5 bolt pattern. __________________ HE WHO DIES WITH THE MOST TOYS WINS Last edited by Explorin94; 07-03-2012 at 01:43 PM.
	Tweet

07-03-2012, 01:47 PM	#10
kryptonitecb Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fort Worth, TX Year: 1994 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Engine: 4.0 Class: 4x4 Used For: daily driver, trail ready Posts: 990 Rep Power: 8 iTrader: (1)	^^^^^ Is why IMO it ain't worth it Sent from the road while ignoring traffic
	Tweet

07-03-2012, 11:20 PM	#11
cdawall Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ellsworth AFB Year: 2005 Make: Ford Model: Ranger Edge Engine: 4.0L V6 Class: 4x4 Used For: trails/daily driver Posts: 493 Rep Power: 7 iTrader: (0)	They are not bad axles if you build them up but for the same money you could just build 1 tons. __________________ Wheeler '05 Ranger Edge SAS'd, 5.38's, D60/D60U, 38.5" TSL SX's, build thread
	Tweet

07-03-2012, 11:23 PM	#12
4.0B2 MALL CRAWLER POST WHORE! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Walls, MS Year: 1988 Make: Ford Model: Bronco II Engine: 4.0 v6 Class: 4x4 Used For: Taking my Money Posts: 9,965 Rep Power: 51 iTrader: (4)	yeah, do some skids and c-gussets with RCV's... and you're good. but.... pricey. __________________ Daily Driver 88 BII Build Thread: Clicky! Backup Vehicle, 92 2wd Explorer: Clicky! The Collection of Fords: Clicky! http://southernrockracing.com/
	Tweet

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode