why all "water car/hydrogen generators" are scams

[fastpakr]

Originally Posted by Jason

I am sure I won't find him on any unbiased site, since I looked like a ****ing retard.

Sounds like a real winner, doesn't he?

[shane96ranger]

I found this on him:

http://aardvark.co.nz/stanley_meyer.shtml

Here's a quote from it:

"The reality is that Stan Meyer was convicted of fraud in 1996 after he was unable to demonstrate his claims to investors or the court after soliciting large sums of money for commercializing his technology."

[Jason]

And the person that brought him up has been discussed by P.T. Barnum.......

[6jeff6]

Not anyone smart by any means but Have a question...

If heat and air conditioning can be taken out of the same water from the ground why can't that be incorporated to energy? It's the new heating system with either straight from your well or they bury long lines in the ground to cool the water back down.
Don't go crazy on me please just asking a simple question.


Jeff

[Jason]

Originally Posted by 6jeff6

Not anyone smart by any means but Have a question...

If heat and air conditioning can be taken out of the same water from the ground why can't that be incorporated to energy? It's the new heating system with either straight from your well or they bury long lines in the ground to cool the water back down.
Don't go crazy on me please just asking a simple question.


Jeff

That is geo-thermal. It's simply based on the ground temps beings consistent regardless of air temp. If you go deep enough underground the temp is steady.

[COPPERHEAD85]

I see the fruit jar generators hooked up under the hood of some peoples rides i change Batteries on,cracks me up.

[6jeff6]

Originally Posted by Jason

That is geo-thermal. It's simply based on the ground temps beings consistent regardless of air temp. If you go deep enough underground the temp is steady.

So if it's really cold out it would be possible because the temp in water would get cold enough? Of course the outside structure of the car would be all water lines LOL. Just thinking outside the box...


Jeff

[superds]

Originally Posted by COPPERHEAD85

I see the fruit jar generators hooked up under the hood of some peoples rides i change Batteries on,cracks me up.

You should tell them that having the hydrogen generator installed voids the warranty on the battery you sold them.

[COPPERHEAD85]

^ Good Idea!

[vbrad511]

16 pages of arguing....wow. I'm a painter by trade. Not a glorious job, but it's the one I know. One of the things that gets me is most of the folks who work in the paint stores. They'll refer you to a product, tell you how it works, how it doesn't work, how it's supposed to work, and paint you every picture under the sun about it, but they've never had a brush in it. I've been told to thin products that didn't need it, and been told not to thin products that wouldn't flow without it...by salesmen and reps who only repeated what they'd been told or read. On paper, in lab results, the folks were spot-on correct, but in the real world, that is, the world where the products were actually put to use and to the test they didn't have a clue. That's what I'm seeing here. An "it can't work" argument from folks who've read things, applied "laws" of physics or thermal dynamics, or just theories in general, up against a few who've personally done it or witnessed it. One thing I have learned in life..."there are very few absolutes/there will always be an exception". Am I going to build or buy one of these generators? Maybe. Am i 100% convinced that it'll add to my gas mileage? No. But with gas prices these days if I decide to give it a shot it'll be a worthy attempt, even if it doesn't work. And i know humility. If I do opt for it and it doesn't work I'll admit it. I don't believe in false positives. Thanks for the good read (and the open minds)

[a31ford]

Who said we where "Making" H2,t's my understanding that we are reducing H20 to HHO, this is NOT "making H2", and requires far LESS energy than originally calculated.

MANY truckers are using 17 liters/min. H2 systems and trust me, they DO work.

BUT then again what do I know.....

http://www.youtube.com/a31ford

Greg

[Dugan]

Originally Posted by a31ford

Who said we where "Making" H2,t's my understanding that we are reducing H20 to HHO, this is NOT "making H2", and requires far LESS energy than originally calculated.

MANY truckers are using 17 liters/min. H2 systems and trust me, they DO work.

BUT then again what do I know.....

http://www.youtube.com/a31ford

Greg

Adding fuel to the fire,

I dont see how a small electrical draw could hurt gas mileage, else there would be wackadoos claiming they drive with flashlights at night instead of headlights to save fuel mileage. 100Amps could be a problem and overwork an alternator, but 2amps or less would truely not stress an already running motor enough to hurt mileage. So using this small amount of electric current to produce this gas that will combust should produce power thinking common sense wise. A friend of mines dad put this on his jeep that was like a 76 or something running a sbc 350 and he got like 26mpg. Dont ask me how but he drove this jeep everyday. He said the system made everything run better and more efficient, and also cut down on carbon buildup in the cylinder. So these O2 sensor theorys can be thrown out, because it was working on a carbureted vehicle, I dont know if he leaned out the carb for this or not, but I dont think a computer could recognize a change when the true oxygen used to ignite this hydrogen is being produced during the electrolisis process. Thats just how I think about this I read all 16 pages today and each side had to me valid arguments, some more rediculous than others.