Ham Radio Recommendation?

[ronclark]

I am going in next month to get my Ham ticket.
Any recommendation on a 2 meter mobile radio?
I was thinking of getting a dual band radio.
anything i should watch out for?

[Gary101386]

I dont know much about this but my dad is a Ham operator of 42 years. I asked him and he says...

Anything new from a reputable dealer is a good choice. Stay away from Radio Shack, or if a deal on Ebay seems too good to be true, it probably is.

[Milton]

As with anything it's how much money do you want to spend.

Also it depends upon your religion. Want to start a war? Just go a HAM web site and post that your Yeasu/Kenwood/Icom radio is the best. The holy wars quickly begin!

Here's my 2 cents worth:
- get a unit with a detachable control head, it makes mounting a lot easier

- Terms:
-- Single band: transceiver only has one band, i.e. 2 meter only
-- Dual band/Single VFO: transceiver can operate on two bands (2 meter & 70 cm [also referred to as VHF and UHF]) but can only operate on one band at a time
-- Dual Band/Dual VFO: Like having 2 radios in one. You can monitor 2 channels simultaneously (VHF/UHF, VHF/VHF, UHF/UHF). Check the owners manual a true dual band/dual vfo transceiver should have "cross-band repeater" ability.
-- Cross-band repeater ability: Let's say your are working an event that is using a 2 meter repeater. Let's say that you want to leave your vehicle, but you are too far from the repeater for your handheld transceiver (HT) to reach the repeater. What to do? Set the mobile in your vehicle to operate as a cross-band repeater. When your mobile receives a signal from the 2 meter repeater, it retransmits the signal on the UHF band. You are carrying a UHF handheld so you can still hear the communications. You transmit on your UHF handheld and the more powerful mobile in your vehicle receives the UHF signal and retransmits it to the 2 meter repeater. You have complete communications at all times. This is a neat feature I have used many times.

Now for the actual recommendations:
Single Band:
- I have not seen a Single Band that comes with a detachable control head.
- If you're going single band go with the most power.
- YAESU FT-2900R (75 watts) $165 at www.hamradio.com

Dual Band/Single VFO:
- YAESU FTM-10R $380 at www.hamradio.com

Dual Band/Dual VFO:
- KENWOOD TM-V71A $405 at www.hamradio.com
- Dual bands are usually limited to 50-55 watts output.

Good luck with your test!

[ronclark]

Thanks for the info. I hope i'll pass, i been self studying reading some ARRL books from the library and some study guides i found on the net.

I been reading some of the Ham forums there about as bad as gun forums,
A tank full of sharks.

Dual Band/Dual VFO and Cross-band repeater, is something i wanted to get into since it sounds like what i want for hiking, but 400+ is out of my budget atm

I know a guy i help with his computers he has a few Kenwood's that he says does cross-band repeater. he want to sell them for 250$ each. i'll have to ask what models thy are.

Originally Posted by Milton

As with anything it's how much money do you want to spend.

Also it depends upon your religion. Want to start a war? Just go a HAM web site and post that your Yeasu/Kenwood/Icom radio is the best. The holy wars quickly begin!





Here's my 2 cents worth:
- get a unit with a detachable control head, it makes mounting a lot easier

- Terms:
-- Single band: transceiver only has one band, i.e. 2 meter only
-- Dual band/Single VFO: transceiver can operate on two bands (2 meter & 70 cm [also referred to as VHF and UHF]) but can only operate on one band at a time
-- Dual Band/Dual VFO: Like having 2 radios in one. You can monitor 2 channels simultaneously (VHF/UHF, VHF/VHF, UHF/UHF). Check the owners manual a true dual band/dual vfo transceiver should have "cross-band repeater" ability.
-- Cross-band repeater ability: Let's say your are working an event that is using a 2 meter repeater. Let's say that you want to leave your vehicle, but you are too far from the repeater for your handheld transceiver (HT) to reach the repeater. What to do? Set the mobile in your vehicle to operate as a cross-band repeater. When your mobile receives a signal from the 2 meter repeater, it retransmits the signal on the UHF band. You are carrying a UHF handheld so you can still hear the communications. You transmit on your UHF handheld and the more powerful mobile in your vehicle receives the UHF signal and retransmits it to the 2 meter repeater. You have complete communications at all times. This is a neat feature I have used many times.

Now for the actual recommendations:
Single Band:
- I have not seen a Single Band that comes with a detachable control head.
- If you're going single band go with the most power.
- YAESU FT-2900R (75 watts) $165 at www.hamradio.com

Dual Band/Single VFO:
- YAESU FTM-10R $380 at www.hamradio.com

Dual Band/Dual VFO:
- KENWOOD TM-V71A $405 at www.hamradio.com
- Dual bands are usually limited to 50-55 watts output.

Good luck with your test!

[Milton]

These prices are new. $259 for a good working used Dual Band/Dual VFO/Crossband-Repeater (DB/DV/CR) transceiver is a good deal. The least expensive DB/DV/CR I've seen is the ALINCO DR-635T ($340 at www.hamradio.com). I have been using my Kenwood for years but have no personal experience with Alinco.

73's N5HMJ

[dirtcowboy]

I use the Yaesu FT-7800, now the FT-7900. Great radio, I've got 6, one in each rig.

eham.net lots of reviews and info

hro.com radio store I use

[4x4junkie]

I've yet to come across a mobile radio with a receive as intermod-resistant as the Yaesu FT-8800R's. This will matter if you live in (or frequently travel through) a large urban area. The 8800R is a true-dual-band radio with cross-band repeat, though these days unfortunately it is a little bit above that $400 price point you mentioned (new anyway).

[ronclark]

Originally Posted by 4x4junkie

I've yet to come across a mobile radio with a receive as intermod-resistant as the Yaesu FT-8800R's. This will matter if you live in (or frequently travel through) a large urban area. The 8800R is a true-dual-band radio with cross-band repeat, though these days unfortunately it is a little bit above that $400 price point you mentioned (new anyway).

That's a really nice radio, i'll have to keep my eye out for a used one or when my budget allows for it

[ronclark]

I talked to the guy, I help from time to time. he has 4 radios for sale

Alinco DR570
Alinco DR590
Kenwood TM732a
Kenwood TM733a

There mint in the box.
How would I find fair market value? For one of them?
I tried ebay, but all I found was the TM733a it ended for 200$

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[Milton]

These are all old, out of production, radios so I do not know what "mint" in the box means in this case. To me mint means essentially never used, which I would have problems believing.

What's a fair price? Well let's start with being able to get a new dual band Alinco for $340. To me I could not begin to pay more than $170 for a used dual band Alinco. and then I would have to think hard about it. Electronic parts go out of production fairly quickly, so odds are you are buying a radio with a significant number of parts that can not be replaced.

My advice:
- Make you first radio a solid reliable performer. A flaky first radio can quickly sour you on the hobby.
- UHF ability is not "required" that often. I work 10-12 ham radio events a year (bike rides, emergency communications, etc.) and only once ran into an event where you had to have UHF to participate.
- Crossband is neat, but not used that often. I look for situations to use it and can go two years without using it. Also remember that you need the handheld unit to make use of crossband, so that is another expense.
- Remember installation expenses. You will need an antenna and some 8-10 gauge wire too.

So for your first radio get:
** $165 YAESU FT-2900R (75 watts) @ www.hamradio.com
** $29 HUSTLER RX-2 2 METER 5/8 WAVE MAG MOUNT @www.hamradio.com
** $15 ATC Style Fuse Holder 10 GA with Ring Terminals and Powerpoles @www.powerwerx.com
** $28 10 gauge 10 foot Powerpole extension cable @www.powerwerx.com
TOTAL is under $240 for a rocking brand new 2 meter rig that will give you many years of reliable performance.

The "ATC Style Fuse Holder 10 GA with Ring Terminals and Powerpoles" is used to make a power connection off the battery (the only way to connect a ham radio).
The "10 gauge 10 foot Powerpole extension cable" is them used bring the power into the cab to your radio.

Connect up with a local ham club, you'll find someone that can put Anderson Powerpole connectors on the Yaesu. In fact when you call Ham Radio Outlet to order the Yaesu you can probably get them to send it to you with anderson powerpole connectors installed.

Good Luck,
Milton - N5HMJ

[ronclark]

thanks for all the recommendation

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[ronclark]

I took my test and got my General. we will see how long my call will show up