Need some swap info, im putting together a parts list...

ive been searching but havent really found much on the 5.0 swap on carb'd b2's and rangers. i have a 2.8 durasparked right now. ive been doing some searching online and ive seem to have some good lines on a couple of motors. i had access to a 347, but its not going to be the best setup for a dd.

first off my a4ld is crap, and im going to be getting a c5 soon, and putting it in with my 2.8 so i can get around(i doubt my a4ld will hold up much longer). im going to be collecting parts for the swap, and will prolly do a complete rebuild on the c5 when its swap time.

i can get the small bellhousing from summit or jegs. so thats not a problem.

when rebuilding the c5 can i use a c4 master kit? how about servo's? PATC has some good looking rebuild kits for the c4. also what stall speed converter do i need to get for a dd? i was thinking the patc 1800 stall(although i believe hays has some mileage miser one with 1200-1600 stall. i hate the high stall speed of my a4ld.

the motor im looking at is from an early 90's 5.0, and im not sure if its h.o or not. also i found a couple of mustang 5.0's that arent h.o. they all seem to go for around 500 bucks for a complete motor with a 30 day-3month warranty. depending on the j/w i go to.

heres what i want:
im looking for about 170-235hp. i dont need anything crazy built as i drive this thing everyday, i also want it to be decently reliable.

on to the questions:
ok, so if i use a crown vic or other efi motor, what do i need to do to convert it over to carb'd? is there a decent factory i/m i can use? prolly going to be using a 500cfm 2bbl carb i have in the back of my rig. i know i can get a 2bbl to 4bbl mani adapter, so how would an edelbrock or summit brand im be on a dd? do i need to buy one for a 302 or 5.0?

so what about the accessories? could i use the stock c/v or mustang accessories? im not going to be retaining a/c, so im not worried about that ill get an a/c delete. will the serpentine system be ok? also im going to use my 4.0 explorer 2 core radiator with the swap, as im not going to be making gobs of power. is there anything wrong with that?

now to the ignition part.
could i use the stock efi disty even tough i have converted my rig to duraspark? or do i need to buy a vac advance disty?

what about the fuel pump? econoline mech, or a cheap electrical? what will i have to do as far as fuel lines if i go with electrical?

will i run into any problems using a smog efi motor, and getting rid of all the smog stuff? anything to block off, or will the carb'd i/m take care of that?

sorry this is kinda long, i noticed today i have blowby in my 2.8, and im not the kinda guy that likes to be stranded on the side of the road, so i figured i might as well swap in a 5.0 versus rebuilding what i got

thanks guys

I can help as far as the distributor goes... Simple answer: NO you can't use the EFI TFI Distributor because you would have no control over your timing advance.

Front accessories will be fine off those motors. I used my stock powersteering pump, bolted into the Mustang bracket.
I happened to use an Alternator off an early 90's Taurus, as it is 130 amp and someone local had a new one for sale.

The heads may have holes in the (back) for the smog crossover tube. They can be plugged many way, when I had E7 heads I simply threaded a bolt into the hole, and ground it of flush with the head.

ChrisR1S said:

I can help as far as the distributor goes... Simple answer: NO you can't use the EFI TFI Distributor because you would have no control over your timing advance.

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i figured as much, so can i just use a single vacuum advance disty for an older model 302? any certain firing order i need?

I don't know if you have done much looking in my thread but my swap is pretty close to what you are doing.

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61372&page=4

For the dizzy I told the parts guy I needed one for a '79 F-150. Firing order doesn't matter, it is all in how you put the plug wires on the cap. You will need the rotor, cap and the collar.

If you put a C4 TC on your C5 you will need the C4 valve body and I would assume rebuild kit. I am using the V8 C5 bellhousing because it is deeper and I am thinking would push the t-case closer to back where it was originally with A4LD and hopefully work with stock length driveshafts. We will see if that works out or if it will push the whole works ahead and interfere with the radiator, dunno how it will compare with the firewall.

I used 1" long 5/8-11 (coarse thread) bolts to fill the crossover ports, it worked great. The threads were full of carbon so I ran a tap down them first. I left the heads alone and painted them to match the engine. Dunno how anyone would ever get a good look once I get the thing in the truck.

Mine is supposed to be out of a '87 Grand Marquis, it has a really simple front dress. Just a crank pulley, water pump, alt and power steering on one serp. belt. The alternator adjusts the belt tension.

85_Ranger4x4 said:

I don't know if you have done much looking in my thread but my swap is pretty close to what you are doing.

http://www.therangerstation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61372&page=4

For the dizzy I told the parts guy I needed one for a '79 F-150. Firing order doesn't matter, it is all in how you put the plug wires on the cap. You will need the rotor, cap and the collar.

If you put a C4 TC on your C5 you will need the C4 valve body and I would assume rebuild kit. I am using the V8 C5 bellhousing because it is deeper and I am thinking would push the t-case closer to back where it was originally with A4LD and hopefully work with stock length driveshafts. We will see if that works out or if it will push the whole works ahead and interfere with the radiator, dunno how it will compare with the firewall.

I used 1" long 5/8-11 (coarse thread) bolts to fill the crossover ports, it worked great. The threads were full of carbon so I ran a tap down them first. I left the heads alone and painted them to match the engine. Dunno how anyone would ever get a good look once I get the thing in the truck.

Mine is supposed to be out of a '87 Grand Marquis, it has a really simple front dress. Just a crank pulley, water pump, alt and power steering on one serp. belt. The alternator adjusts the belt tension.

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yea i read your thread somewhat, and i saw the bolts u are refering to. anyone know what stall speed converter i need?

I have a C4 to BW1350 Advance Adapter. the 11.5" one that I'll give you deal on if you want it. I'm scrapping my project. It was installed, but never ran. If it's the right length for you, you won't have to fool with your driveshafts.