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ufgators68
10-19-2010, 06:58 AM
that the engineers that designed the 4.0 and the ones that figured out how to place it in the truck, should be beaten. :icon_rofl:

I think they successfully designed that engine/compartment to be a pain in the butt to work on. From the PCV valve to the thermostat to the tensioner pulley, all 3 have caused me to either lose skin from my hand or cause my hand some sort of pain from having to contort it to fit in a hard to reach spot.

One that would make some of the maintenance/repair easier would be a two piece fan shroud. That would be awesome.:icon_thumby:

country0001
10-19-2010, 07:15 AM
Wait til you change the # 3 spark plug.Bahahahahahahahahaha

ufgators68
10-19-2010, 07:22 AM
Wait til you change the # 3 spark plug.Bahahahahahahahahaha

Been there, done that and I never have a problem changing the plugs... I don't know what y'all are doing wrong. :icon_rofl:

Seriously. I've changed them twice and never had a problem.:icon_confused:

country0001
10-19-2010, 08:34 AM
Didn't say I had a problem, but I did have to use a knuckleand a few extensions.

When it comes to stuff like the front of the engine, sometimes its better to just go ahead and disassemble everything.

doorgunner
10-19-2010, 10:03 AM
My Design conspiracy theory is this....they make the engine as hard to work on as possible so the owner will bring it to the dealer for repairs after the warranty goes out (they're really not concerned how difficult it would be for their own dealership mechanics to repair the engine)....

of course.....everybody already knew that.....

RustedRanger
10-19-2010, 10:09 AM
I saw a cartoon once that had two engineers standing over an engine bay and saying something like,"The exhaust manifold needs changed......the number 3 spark plug can still be reached" lol....sure seems true at times. My 3rd car was a Chevy Monza with a factory V-8 w/AC. After working on that the Ranger engine bay doesn't seem so small :)

AllanD
10-19-2010, 11:01 AM
that the engineers that designed the 4.0 and the ones that figured out how to place it in the truck, should be beaten. :icon_rofl:

I think they successfully designed that engine/compartment to be a pain in the butt to work on. From the PCV valve to the thermostat to the tensioner pulley, all 3 have caused me to either lose skin from my hand or cause my hand some sort of pain from having to contort it to fit in a hard to reach spot.

One that would make some of the maintenance/repair easier would be a two piece fan shroud. That would be awesome.:icon_thumby:

You go after the 1994-up 4.0 belt tensioner from the BOTTOM

You go after the passenger side spark plugs through the wheel well.

exbass94
10-19-2010, 11:05 AM
My Design conspiracy theory is this....they make the engine as hard to work on as possible so the owner will bring it to the dealer for repairs after the warranty goes out (they're really not concerned how difficult it would be for their own dealership mechanics to repair the engine)....

of course.....everybody already knew that.....




I don't believe that at all.

jhammel85
10-19-2010, 11:34 AM
Ever work on a Second Gen Ford Probe GT? Now THAT is a tight fit....One thing that I do not miss about my old car..

BlackBII
10-19-2010, 11:48 AM
Talk to me after you've worked on either A) Saab Sonnet III, or 2) Mitsubishi Starion.

The 4.0 RBV is a cakewalk compared to many cars.

Daniel_187
10-19-2010, 11:52 AM
Since my body lift, its been pretty good things are easy to get to now, it openen up the engin bay so much I love it and wished i did it sooner

AgPete139
10-19-2010, 12:28 PM
Yup. Regarding the OHV 4.0L, I think it's pretty simple. Haven't done too much on the SOHC 4.0L. After working on a few minivans with the short front nose, and a several Hondas and small Toyotas, you get practice and the knowledge to attack other projects. Also, the right tools & their lengths help a lot.

Work on a Taurus. That'll piss you off.


Pete

AgPete139
10-19-2010, 12:29 PM
Since my body lift, its been pretty good things are easy to get to now, it openen up the engin bay so much I love it and wished i did it sooner

BL are amazing. :yahoo: And yes, it does make many tasks easier.


Pete

cammeddrz
10-19-2010, 12:42 PM
wait til you do plugs/wires on an LT1 camaro/firebird, alldata quotes 10 hours shop time (for most driveway mechanics that means 20hrs), i found it easier, and faster to lift the body off the k-member, than to try it in the car......after doing it once i'll never do it in the car again

ufgators68
10-19-2010, 12:57 PM
I have had to work on early model Pontiac GrandAm's, the bubble looking Escorts, smaller Buick sedans and, as of late, my wife's Mazda Protege.

All of those were much worse than working on my truck... but that 4.0 engine compartment is still a pain in the but to deal with.

bcost882
10-19-2010, 01:13 PM
.......try working on the ECS(enviromental control system) on an F-16....or some of the safety wire i have seen......those engineers need to be shot......trying to safety wire with .032 safety with just fingertips and just get it tight or those retard ecs clamps......it makes my hands hurt just thinking about it....and the rear pass spark plug on the 3.0L is a pain too FML

3.0ranger1227
10-19-2010, 01:20 PM
Try to change the trans fluid in a manual 1998 mustang in your driveway.

Only way we figured out that worked to fill it back up was to take the shifter off and run a funnel with a hose through the shifter hole inside and have someone below hold the hose in the fill hole. Wonderful.

BlackBII
10-19-2010, 01:22 PM
Try to change the trans fluid in a manual 1998 mustang in your driveway.

Only way we figured out that worked to fill it back up was to take the shifter off and run a funnel with a hose through the shifter hole inside and have someone below hold the hose in the fill hole. Wonderful.

That how I fill the tranny in my BII. Remove the shifter, pour it in. Thats the easy way. :icon_thumby:

country0001
10-19-2010, 01:24 PM
You go after the passenger side spark plugs through the wheel well.

Didn't take me long to figure that out. I'm just glad that I had the swivel spark plug socket. That was a life saver.

'99 EB Explorer
10-19-2010, 01:54 PM
ever try changing the plugs and wires on the '93 2.3L ranger?? ALMOST have to take the intake off. :annoyed:

AgPete139
10-19-2010, 02:10 PM
I love swivels and extensions. :wub: That's what SHE said.



But for reals, I am still in the process of rebuilding some 1970 Weber carbs. To take them out, I needed a 12mm, 12 point, short swivel socket.

http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/m/mToF7gD2iB2IKomyIdcKkdg/140.jpg

Open wrenches wouldn't do. Crescent wrenches wouldn't do. 6 point sockets wouldn't do. Other conventional sockets wouldn't do. With that tool, it was off the motor in ~10 ratchet cranks.


What sucks are the 2.3L rangers with the 8 plugs. :thefinger:



Pete

country0001
10-19-2010, 03:22 PM
Yeah, I had to get a 7mm swivel socket when I replaced plugs on the ex's expedition. What a pain in the a$$, and the truck wasn't fun either!