View Full Version : BFGoodrich A/T Tires
Jspafford
08-19-2007, 10:53 PM
I am thinking about putting a set of these on my Superduty. Right now it has Sears Trailhandler or something on it, but they are a Load Range C and the truck is supposed to have E's on it. I have been getting a rumble lately and they just rotated the tires... I think I may need some new rubber and keep the ones I have for spares.
Any opinions on them?
organic
08-19-2007, 11:03 PM
These are great tires. I was especially surprized how good they worked in the snow. I've had them for about 10 months now and the tread looks brand new, plus there pretty aggressive looking for an all terrain tire.
Maverick
08-20-2007, 01:57 AM
I've only had mine on for about a month now but have put nearly 2000 miles on them and agree they are great tires. They grip very well on dry and wet pavement and go unnoticed in the noise department.
Natedog
08-20-2007, 02:37 AM
BFGs are pretty good, but if it sees alot of street use Michelins are a far better gripping, wearing and handling tire.
4x4RangerGuy
08-20-2007, 07:37 AM
The BFGs on my truck are the best tires I've ever had. I'd recommend them to anyone, especially people dealing with lots of snow in the winter. VERY quite for an all terrain tire too.
Cameron
08-20-2007, 08:06 AM
Ive had a set and they were alright, I have a set of Bridgestone Dueler REVOs on my F150 now and they are a lot better. No noise at all and they wear great. I have just over 15K on them and still look almost new.
JohnnyO
08-20-2007, 08:25 AM
The BFG's are very good in anything except deep mud.
Jspafford
08-20-2007, 08:52 AM
The only drawback is the price.. Ouch, I got a set of Dueler A/T's on my ranger right before I sold it and they were awesome, but I like the looks of the BFG's
mjonesjr
08-20-2007, 08:54 AM
The BFG's are very good in anything except deep mud.
^^exactly.....99.9% of people who dog BFG A/T's don't realize that...
i am on my second set on my Ranger.....the first set i sold with 44,000 miles on them, and the guy i sold them to ran them another 20,000 miles and then sold them to someone else.......
they are AWSOME in snow....even deep snow.....i took my truck through 30" of snow that was untouched with my 33 BFG A/T's without a problem....
I like these, I have a set of load d's on my suburban.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Geolandar+A%2FT-S&vehicleSearch=true&partnum=675R6GEOATS&fromCompare1=yes&minSpeedRating=R
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/yokohama/yo_geo_at_s_bw_ci2_l.jpg
milje
08-20-2007, 09:57 AM
^^exactly.....99.9% of people who dog BFG A/T's don't realize that...
I think a lot of the people that don't like them for some reason expect them to perform like M/T's, they're just really good A/T's, people expect too much out of them.
I have Bridgestone Dueler Revo's on my truck right now, they seem pretty good. Got about 22,000 mile on them, they've done good in the snow so far for me. Kinda wish I would have got the BFG's though, I think they would have been better in the snow.
cargs
08-20-2007, 11:01 AM
These are great tires. I was especially surprised how good they worked in the snow. I've had them for about 10 months now and the tread looks brand new, plus there pretty aggressive looking for an all terrain tire.
I agree, i have had my AT's for over a year now. i bought them used with about 75-80% on them and they still look the same as when i bought them. they work very well in snow. You might want to keep a look out for a slightly used set to save you some money, you could get lucky and find a deal!
Explorin94
08-20-2007, 11:51 AM
When you buy them make sure they are the right weight rating and ply for your truck. I don't know if you haul or pull anything but I would hate to see you get the weong tire and then blow one out.
lil_Blue_Ford
08-20-2007, 03:00 PM
My dad ran BFG ATs on his F-150 for years. He said they did really good as a summer tire, but when winter came around, he was swapping to a more agressive tire simply because the BFGs didn't cut it in the snow with his truck, even if it was fully loaded down.
Dad used to run some aggressive Remington tires on his dump trucks, but you can't seem to get Remingtons anymore. I used to run them on my Ranger and loved them too, but...
Mom got some tires on her Explorer that have a tread pattern pretty much identical to a Lemans AT, they do really good and no complaints so far.
Last time I was due for tires on the Ranger I picked up a set of Sport King ATs, I love them. I've put well over 20k miles on them and still have plenty of tread, they do well in pretty much any condition, I haven't been stuck with them yet. I wouldn't go mudbogging with them, but they do a decent job at getting you through some lighter stuff.
samsonitesamsonite
08-20-2007, 05:46 PM
the duelers don't last nearly as long as the BFG's. I worked at raben as a tire jockey for quite a while, and the BFG's consistantly got 60k before they were scrapped, the duelers where lucky to get half of that. with the BFG's just make sure you rotate them ever 5-8k
BOSS302Man
08-20-2007, 06:24 PM
I have a set of A/T BFG's and I think they are GREAT! Have about 18,000 miles on them and they look new. Great in the snow and they look cool in my opinion. Neighbor had a set of Duellers and they didn't last very long at all. I was never a fan of Firestone tires and the Duellers backed me up on that.
JohnnyO
08-20-2007, 09:06 PM
I put on a mild lift and got 265/75-16 Dueler REVO's almost immediately. Great in snow, rain, even mud, and quiet for an A/T, but they only last about 25,000.
(Long story made short, I was 'froading and knocked the alignment out, burned off the fronts before I knew it. Now I'm buying two a year and I'm kinda stuck in the cycle. But even with good alignment, rotation, and checking the pressure weekly, I only get about 25k out of them.)
BFG's cost more up front but they also wear like iron, so they will likely cost you less in the end.
Jspafford
08-20-2007, 09:11 PM
Well I just talked to the shop again today and seems the tires I have now are not what is making the rumble. It is the damn ford $250 a piece unit bearings. $&^(^$ FORD!
But the tires on it now are only a C rated tire!! Right inside the gas cap it even says it needs E rated tires. I am suprised I have not blown them out yet. I had a trailer on it over the winter that was 4,000 over my limit... Eeek, the thought of it.
I just got some 3.99% APR checks in the mail so I think I am going to tell them to put on a set of BFG A/T's Load Range E's before I pick it up.
Thanks as always for the opinions.
The last straw in my decision, and why I am having the truck worked on to begin with is I have to move our camping trailer around the campground Wed night, and it has been raining the last 2 days! I don't want to get hung up in the grass or light mud.
85_Ranger4x4
08-20-2007, 09:53 PM
The theory with the unit bearings is you are paying for the part cost instead of the techs labor to set them up. There is less time for your truck to tie up the shop and it is alot simpler to install. Really if you are paying someone to do it it is about a draw expensewise. Make sure you get the good ones and keep your receipts, they do let the ocassional fluke out of the factory.
I had BFG's on my truck and they were great in everything except thick clay, prettymuch like everyone else has said....they are pretty spendy tho.
w_pinkerton
08-21-2007, 09:29 AM
I recommend getting Cooper Discoverer ATR's. for me it was a toss up between them and the BFG ATs. I ended up with the coopers because they were cheaper and had a 50,000 mile warranty compared to BFG's 30,000. i have about 35,000 on them and they are about 1/2 tread yet. very good tires with awesome traction.
Jspafford
08-21-2007, 10:37 PM
The theory with the unit bearings is you are paying for the part cost instead of the techs labor to set them up. There is less time for your truck to tie up the shop and it is alot simpler to install. Really if you are paying someone to do it it is about a draw expensewise. Make sure you get the good ones and keep your receipts, they do let the ocassional fluke out of the factory.
True, but I can repack the bearings on the B2 in under an hour with myself doing it. Free labor. And usually there is no need to replace the bearings themselves.
I think it is a good way for FORD to make money, because it sure is not saving me any. I would rather spend the time and do them. Seems dumb to have a non serviceable bearing assy on such a heavy duty vehicle. :no2:
Black_Splash
08-21-2007, 10:48 PM
I got them on my truck. They look great, I've not had any trouble with them.
Jspafford
08-21-2007, 10:52 PM
I will have them on mine tomorrow when they call and say she's done.
85_Ranger4x4
08-22-2007, 12:13 AM
True, but I can repack the bearings on the B2 in under an hour with myself doing it. Free labor. And usually there is no need to replace the bearings themselves.
I think it is a good way for FORD to make money, because it sure is not saving me any. I would rather spend the time and do them. Seems dumb to have a non serviceable bearing assy on such a heavy duty vehicle. :no2:
Fewer of us work on our own vehicles now too, so everybody else is still paying the same either way. It saves Ford money, and doesn't cost the average consumer much more. I don't like the idea either but about everything on the road is like that now.
Sasquatch_Ryda
08-22-2007, 01:16 AM
If you like the BFG allterrains check out the General Grabber AT2, almost identical tread pattern, they wear extreemly well and are probably half the price of the BFG.
http://www.apneu.cz/images/general_tire_grabber_at2.gif
JoshT
08-23-2007, 08:08 PM
Those Grabber AT2 are probably the next thing going on my truck, course that'll be a while. I can't seem to get the Lemans A/T tires that are on it now to wear out. The Lemans are good tires for the price, and since the 4wd has been working I haven't found anything that they couldn't handle (though I admit I don't wheel much if any). When/If I get those Grabbers I'll be going to a 32x11.5 on a 15x8 AR Outlaw II style wheel with a little less backspacing. It'll fill out the wheel openings a little without being to big, and should give me slightly more clearance and traction on the occasion I do go off-roading.
canyoncritter
08-24-2007, 03:28 AM
BFG's are great tires. Everything in my driveway rolls on BFG's.They cost a little more,but then again you usually get what you pay for.and rember most of the lower price tires that look like a BFG are only 2 ply sidewalls, where a bfg is 3.
Im on my 2nd set of bfg a/t's on my superduty. first set had about 40,000 when I took them off,and still had about %25 left on them.Have about 15,000 on this set, and they look like new still.
very good tires in my opion for multi use truck...they ride nice, quiet, great grip on wet roads,do good in sand when aired down...
And for the wheel bearing, they do make a kit to get away from the sealed bearing units, cant rember who makes it, but its some bank, think was $1200.
4x4RangerGuy
08-24-2007, 06:34 AM
Fewer of us work on our own vehicles now too, so everybody else is still paying the same either way. It saves Ford money, and doesn't cost the average consumer much more. I don't like the idea either but about everything on the road is like that now.
+1
While I can repack wheel bearings in no time for little money, most people can't and will take it to the dealer or another shop to do it, and at that point it's easier for Ford to just throw on a hub assembly instead of taking the time to repack and service the wheel bearings.
I also think it has something to do with the fact that a lot of people weren't performing maintenance on their wheel bearings, and causing a lot of damage because of it.
samsonitesamsonite
08-25-2007, 08:18 PM
those generals are good tires but don't last as long as the BFG, i love mine, but my next tired will the the BFG MT
Jspafford
08-25-2007, 08:21 PM
BFG's are great tires. Everything in my driveway rolls on BFG's.They cost a little more,but then again you usually get what you pay for.and rember most of the lower price tires that look like a BFG are only 2 ply sidewalls, where a bfg is 3.
Im on my 2nd set of bfg a/t's on my superduty. first set had about 40,000 when I took them off,and still had about %25 left on them.Have about 15,000 on this set, and they look like new still.
very good tires in my opion for multi use truck...they ride nice, quiet, great grip on wet roads,do good in sand when aired down...
And for the wheel bearing, they do make a kit to get away from the sealed bearing units, cant rember who makes it, but its some bank, think was $1200.
Yeah I looked into that kit, for a mere $1800 bucks I can convert them over to 'regular' bearings, I also have to change out the outer shafts, and lose my still functional "auto" lock hubs.
No thanks.
Come to find out the bearings were fine. The shop could not pinpoint the noise and since they had the whole front axle apart changing the seals they checked everything and said it was all fine. So I am going to continue to drive it.
So far I LOVE the BFG's. When I pulled into the lot to pick it up the truck looked new. It gives it a whole new attitude. Now it is fun to drive again.
The first night home I took it down to our campsite and hooked it up to our trailer, even with close to 1,000lbs in tongue weight the sidewalls in the rear held up and looked just like the ones in the front, oh and after 3 days of rain I didn't spin a tire in 2WD.
Bring on the obsticles.:drool:
King Crush
09-16-2007, 05:47 PM
I wasn't too impressed the way the BFG AT's did in the mud. They just spun and they have quite a bit of thread left. Haven't had the oppertunity to try 'em in the snow, but I hear they do awesome. When it snows next I'll find out. But I know I can't expect a AT tire to do awesome in the mud like a swamper or something.
Jspafford
09-16-2007, 07:26 PM
We get a good bit of snow here in Ohio. I am also anxious to see how they do in the snow. The off-brand tires I had on it last year did decent and I made it through upwards of 8" of snow, but I think these will do much better.
88mudder
09-21-2007, 09:23 AM
love my BFG's! Great in the rain, snow, and on the trail. I dont know why ppl expect them to be great in the deep mud...come on ppl these arent MT's or Boggers.
jtfoxman
10-05-2007, 09:18 PM
The only drawback is the price.. Ouch, I got a set of Dueler A/T's on my ranger right before I sold it and they were awesome, but I like the looks of the BFG's
I recently went back to the Duelers after switching to the Destinations. Let me tell you the Duelers are 10 times better.
Stick with the Dueler A/T's or the BFG A/T's you won't be sorry.
AllanD
10-22-2007, 02:27 PM
Tires are a case in point where the saying "you get what you pay for" has special meaning.
Other tires will cost you less to buy than BFG's, but the BFG's wear like IRON.
I know of no other tire that will last as long as BFG's, provided the vehicle
you put them on doesn't have a loose front end or screwed up alignment.
You will not regret putting BFG's on your F250.
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Jspafford
10-22-2007, 02:42 PM
I haven't regretted it once. Granted the truck is parked most of the time, but I have played in the mud with it more than once since they have been on there. I am anxious for snow. I love snow driving anyway, but I bet I will be impressed with the traction these put down. I think I've only put 500 miles on the new tires since they were installed. Whatever date that was, the date I first posted this thread. At this rate they will last forever!
Maverick
10-22-2007, 08:07 PM
Other tires will cost you less to buy than BFG's, but the BFG's wear like IRON.
I know of no other tire that will last as long as BFG's, provided the vehicle
you put them on doesn't have a loose front end or screwed up alignment.
There was one, but is no longer in production, the Dunlop Mud Rover. Those tires were cheap (compared to a BFG) and wore for ever. If they still made them they would be on my truck. On the other hand, I'm absolutely pleased with the BFG A/T's on my Ranger.
85_Ranger4x4
10-22-2007, 08:33 PM
There was one, but is no longer in production, the Dunlop Mud Rover. Those tires were cheap (compared to a BFG) and wore for ever. If they still made them they would be on my truck. On the other hand, I'm absolutely pleased with the BFG A/T's on my Ranger.
Really? I thought you could still get them?
http://www.dunloptire.com/dunlop/display_tire.jsp?prodline=Radial+Mud+Rover&mrktarea=Light+Truck
It was between another set of those and Cooper STT's for the next set of tires for my Ranger, if you can't get them I guess that makes it a little easier to decide. I like my Rovers, I don't drive the truck much but I can't tell any wear, and the things just don't quit digging.
Jspafford
10-22-2007, 08:55 PM
When I first got my B2, it has Dunlop Radial Rover tires on it. They were on it from as long as I remember. I had been riding in the B2 for years before I bought it, it was my father-in-laws. They seemed to have been on there at least 5-6 years and he drove it everyday.
Maverick
10-22-2007, 09:43 PM
Really? I thought you could still get them?
http://www.dunloptire.com/dunlop/display_tire.jsp?prodline=Radial+Mud+Rover&mrktarea=Light+Truck
It was between another set of those and Cooper STT's for the next set of tires for my Ranger, if you can't get them I guess that makes it a little easier to decide. I like my Rovers, I don't drive the truck much but I can't tell any wear, and the things just don't quit digging.
I had a hell of a time trying to track them down and was told they were no longer available. I was told that what was available was just overstock.
Jspafford
10-22-2007, 09:50 PM
In case anyone cares here is a pic of the truck with the rubber mounted on it.
The otherside is up on a dirt hill. The driverside rear was getting pretty light with that much flex, the helper springs don't like letting it flex that much.
http://jspafford.com/memorial%20day%202007/DCFC0171.jpg
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