wtf now?

Danger-Ranger96 · Dec 30, 2007

not a month ago i redid axle shaft u-joints, (both sides) the front drive shaft joints (and the double carden) and rear driveshaft.

It all worked great until i turned and i had a bit of slight binding, now it feels as though 4wd is not engaged at all YET the tcase shift lever is definately in 4hi. Only the rear spins and the front remains dead. YES the hubs are locked too and i dont have an electric tcase, its all manual, oh and i do have an L/S in the front now too, maybe something fucked up in the diff?

Evan · Dec 30, 2007

The best way to diagnose the problem is to get all four wheels off the ground and start turning stuff by hand to see what's working and what's not.

Sorry to hear your having problems after all the work you did.

metalmacguyver · Dec 30, 2007

something somewhere between the tcase and the front wheels is broke. as Evan said, put it up in the air and start turning stuff by hand.

michowski · Dec 31, 2007

jack the front end in the air with the hubs and 4wd engaged. Have someone spins the tires and trace the driveline to see were its failing.

Danger-Ranger96 · Dec 31, 2007

just got in from jacking it up and checking out the driveline, the driver side hub's internals got all screwed up and broke i guess, very cold winters and hubs dont mix apparently lmao

i just ordered a new set of 37780 jeep hubs.

brendank · Dec 31, 2007

If those were the hubs you got from me, then they were already 37780's. I think that's the first I've heard of someone breaking a 37780. They're strong enough that it's usually the axle that goes first.

Danger-Ranger96 · Jan 2, 2008

heh yea brendan they were the ones i bought from you, it turns out it was a little more than the hub that broke, The ball joints havent been changed for a long ass time, and old ball joints and misalignment set the camber toe out like a savage, i'm guessing when i turned and started to bind, the weight of the wheel started jarring the lower ball joint, safe to say, the wheel might as well be horizontal, i think when the wheel got to the point where it is now, the shaft spinning in the hub just tore it all to shit. i'll post some pics of the way its sitting right now with the wheel toed out. I took it apart, put my other hubs that i had spare back on it, 4wd worked for a bit, but ball joints are to blame maybe. oh i was going to ask, what sort of special tool do i need for ball joints? is it just that fork looking thing to pry up on them?

91exploreron37 · Jan 3, 2008

I just loosened the bootom bolt ball joint bolt and hit the spindle a couple of time with a sledge. Wait do you have the TTB?

Jspafford · Jan 3, 2008

I am sure he is working on the 1996, so yeah he has a TTB.

91exploreron37 · Jan 3, 2008

Oh ok just asking because my mom's 96 explorer is IFS or maybe its a 97? :icon_confused:

metalmacguyver · Jan 4, 2008

91exploreron37 said:
Oh ok just asking because my mom's 96 explorer is IFS or maybe its a 97?

explorers had the TTB up till 1994. 1995 and up had IFS. rangers used the TTB up until 1997. 1998 and up have the IFS.

HRTKD · Jan 4, 2008

Danger-Ranger96 said:
i guess, very cold winters and hubs dont mix apparently lmao

I'm not sure I agree with that, but maybe we have different equipment. I have a stock '91 Ranger 4x4 that I was out wheeling through 15" deep snow when it was about -12 degrees F. My hubs didn't have any problems but then again, they're so old and have been so poorly maintained that maybe they're just used to abuse.

HRTKD · Jan 4, 2008

metalmacguyver said:
explorers had the TTB up till 1994. 1995 and up had IFS. rangers used the TTB up until 1997. 1998 and up have the IFS.

Help a newbie out please. I understand IFS, but what is TTB? I thought my '91 had IFS.

rangertotty · Jan 4, 2008

lol TTB Twin Traction Beam

brendank · Jan 5, 2008

HRTKD said:
I'm not sure I agree with that, but maybe we have different equipment. I have a stock '91 Ranger 4x4 that I was out wheeling through 15" deep snow when it was about -12 degrees F. My hubs didn't have any problems but then again, they're so old and have been so poorly maintained that maybe they're just used to abuse.

TTB is a form of IFS, but it isn't the same system as the 98+ IFS. That's probably where the confusion started.

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