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H B3000
12-27-2007, 06:47 PM
a nother can of worms I know you dont get as good mpg with e-85, but ifyou could make it yourself cheep enough ? ck out this weeb sight http://running_on_alcohol.tripod.com/index.html comments please !!!!!!!!!!!:icon_bounceblue:

Sunk
12-27-2007, 07:06 PM
That's interesting. I think the time involved processing (not to mention growing/harvesting) enough would far offset the monetary savings.

Ranger5.0
12-27-2007, 07:08 PM
what he said
whats with your intrest in alternate fuels?

almostclueless
12-27-2007, 08:28 PM
danged revenuers will be after ya!!!!

LittleBigFoot
12-27-2007, 09:03 PM
Try gettin caught with a still in your back yard and saying it's for your car. That'll go over well.

Alcohol is for drinking,
corn is for eating
sugar is for candy
gas is for trucks

kunar
12-27-2007, 09:14 PM
whats with your intrest in alternate fuels?

nothing wrong with that... if nobody ever had any curiosity about anything, where would we be today?

H B3000
12-27-2007, 09:28 PM
there is a simple form you send AFT.Because of ATF regulations, you will need to add a little bit of gasoline to denature any alcohol you have sitting around. Just 2 to 5% is enough to do the trick. This way, if you ever do get a surprise visit from the ATF (since they know about your still because of the Fuel distillation permit you took out), they can see right away that you are making fuel, not drinking alcohol.
"I also saw the opportunity to collect wasted corn meal, oats, wheat, and other grains that leak out of cracks in the hammer mills and fall on the floor.
The powder piles up 2ft deep in about a month.
I'm thinking of offering to clean up the mill once a month for $200 and I get to keep the waste.
I'm also looking for damaged or "off-taste" soda pop syrup tanks from local restaurants too.
Thanks,
Mike Powers " THis is a quot from the web page . whats with your intrest in alternate fuels? he ask Well if $3.00 a gal. is not doing it for you Just around the next bend $4.oo and then $5.00 wehre and when will it stop ?

Sunk
12-27-2007, 09:46 PM
Alternative fuels are definitely a good place to be, and will be better in the coming years. However finding one that is renewable, efficient and practical is the key.

Ranger5.0
12-27-2007, 10:36 PM
nothing wrong with that... if nobody ever had any curiosity about anything, where would we be today?


Well, that wasnt my point. Alternate fuels are gone to be e only way anyone will be able to drive some day. I was just woundering why he went from looking at some new fangled hydrogen injection krap to runing on alcohol. Id say more, but dont wanna souind like a dink

H B3000
12-27-2007, 10:45 PM
I won`t to explor all ave, just think if you could combine e-85 & Hydrogen By no means am i pro or con on this i am just seeking info . I am leaning to a alcohol still , Might be fun.

baadboy11
12-27-2007, 11:23 PM
Hey if you are gonna do anything your best bet is biodiesel...and a diesel engine. Seems like a simpler process, and you can use cooking oil from restaurants for FREE!! better way to go in my opinion!

H B3000
12-27-2007, 11:32 PM
yes you are probley on the right track BUT I Dont have a diesel it has ben a long time ford put a diesel in a ranger

predator
12-28-2007, 12:06 AM
and you cant drop a cummins 4bt in one?? or pick one up off of ebay like i did??

screw alternate fuels...as soon as i find the right vehicle im gonna try to make an electric car....

Sunk
12-28-2007, 12:09 AM
They made electric Rangers...

JFA_Spyderman
12-28-2007, 12:14 AM
They did, I saw one used on ebay for about $25,000

AllanD
12-28-2007, 09:36 AM
home brewing alternative fuel will never be practical except for a tiny group of people who have loads of free time and access to the necissary materials so cheap as to be effectively "free".

It's like the discussion of making bio-diesel from used fry oil, when in reality
it would take TWO McDonalds or chinese resturants for each F350 on the road....

ethanol is far worse because of the bureaucratic hoops you'll have to jump through so that the government is sure that they aren't losing any of their precious tax revenue...

You CANNOT make alcohol fuel at home. it must be in a secure commercial setting and you WILL be subject to (repeated) inspections.

Filling out the form is only the beginning of the battle and only one person out of 100
who starts the process manages to carry through to actually start making fuel
all the rest eventually say "Screw it" because the government just makes it too difficult to do legally to be practical.



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BlackBII
12-28-2007, 03:27 PM
screw alternate fuels...as soon as i find the right vehicle im gonna try to make an electric car....


I drove a golf cart to work all summer long...... and into the winter brrrrrr! i had to put chains on the back tires!:3gears: