Bad news. No new Ranger

[nitrofan1]

At least this report says so. Ok there may be a market for a "midsize" truck that Ford can sell but we need the Ranger.

Jim and others: We need a list of names, signatures etc sent to Ford to let them know we want a new Ranger. If possible get the other forums involved as well. I can see so many names associated with each forum there must be thousands that could contribute, even if you can email them to let them know about this.

Here's the link to Autoblog's article: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/09/report-mullaly-says-global-ranger-and-ka-wont-be-offered-in-fo/

Let's get something going!!!!!! :annoyed:

[hilbile]

pickup trucks.com had a theory that we might get some type of f100 instead of a new ranger but who knows. if the Ranger dies, I might have to cry

[LittleBigFoot]

Ford can't keep up in the compact truck corner of the market.

The 4.3 in the Dimes will out a 4.0 w/o a doubt.

Toyota and the foreigns are throwin in lockers, super chargers, and deeper gearing.

Ford could make a very good compact truck, if they would pull their heads out of their asses.

I'm still a blue oval boy, but it's no big loss to me if they kill the Ranger. To me, it died in 98.

If you want a basic as hell fleet truck, Ford's the way to go. If you want all the bells and whistles, look across the ocean.

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

Meh they already said that 2009 would be the last year of the ranger...guess what...the 2010's are rolling into a dealership near you. I don't think the ranger is going anywhere.

[Gotta_gofast]

I'm not worried. The ranger is aging in technology. I don't think Ford is going to leave the mini-truck market all together. They'll have something else to replace it.


Pshh, 4.3L? My bud has a 2wd S10 and I can outrun him with my 4.0L 4x4. I think the colorado with the V8 and the dakota with a v8 is more of a threat.

[LittleBigFoot]

Was it the vortec?

How often to stock trucks drag race?

And the 4.3 is a torqey bastard.

[Gotta_gofast]

His is an '04. I would assume its the vortec.

We were goofin around. He could pull me off the line but he was never able to lead very long. Probably because of his low first gear and the lower rpm torque.

Yea, the 4.3L is a torquey six.

[85rx7_93ranger]

my nieghbor works at the minneapolis ranger plant and he says after 2011 they are retooling for some sort of small compact car, hes thinking its for the new 2012 festivas, and correct me if im mistaken i believe the minneapolis plant is the only US ranger plant right?

[85rx7_93ranger]

Meh they already said that 2009 would be the last year of the ranger...guess what...the 2010's are rolling into a dealership near you. I don't think the ranger is going anywhere.

oh i was also told the 2010+ rangers are supossed to be made to us saftey standards by adding side curtain airbags into teh seats so they dont have to redo the intire interior just the seat...pretty cool i thought

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

Along with 4 wheel disc brakes, 4 channel abs, roll stability control, and traction control.

[Jay FX4]

I don't know about you guys, but I don't want that "Global Ford Ranger" shown in the link.

That's no better than a Sport Trac.

[MountainMike]

Along with 4 wheel disc brakes, 4 channel abs, roll stability control, and traction control.

And a slightly revamped interior with a new steering wheel and IP.

[darkspork]

I love my Ranger, but if its discontinued I'll just have to get a Frontier or Tacoma as my next newer truck. They aren't terrible trucks. If I get another used truck it will be a F250 with the 7.3L PSD, Ranger wasn't necessarily in my plans unless they roll out a diesel. If the European Ranger were brought to the states and the manual transmission is kept I might like it.

[ZMan]

I'm not worried about new rangers, I'll stick to my oldies, Taurus SHO will be my next vehicle purchase.

[idfeiid]

Yea, I'm pulling out.... I'm going to buy a Tacoma next year, Ford is just not putting the right equipment in their trucks anymore... and I don't want a full size.

[F350none]

I heard (Don't know how true it is) that Chevy was dropping the Colorado and Dodge the Dakota. Someone has to pick up their market share. Wish Ford would keep the Ranger and try. Guess I'm not surprised. It must be the guy that made the decision to get rid of the Taurus a few years ago that is making the decision. They realized their mistake about it maybe they will again.

[Rebel4x4]

This will be the most stupid thing ford as done but if it's true boys and girls hold on to your rangers hopefully it's a lie

what are they going to do stick us with this
http://www.freewebs.com/nunzio7/FordSuperChief_Det08.jpg

I do not think These global warming People let this come out everyone needs a good gas saving truck

[WNY964x4]

why can't they wait till 2013 to kill the ranger , at least give it a full 30 year production run , make a special 30th anniversary edition , and send it out with a bang

[nitrofan1]

Here's the silly part of this. My 94 Splash 2wd, 4.0L 5sp with 192,000 + miles on it. Not anywhere near stock (have everything you can throw at the external engine stuff besides a super charger). I got to checking MPG the last month or so for laughs since I haven't done that in years and found the combined adverage to be 20.984. Now this is not granny poot driving either. I treat it like a light hot rod. Now I'm talking tech that's been around at least 20+ years and getting a hair under 21 MPG with no conserving.

Hello Ford! If I can do this with a hopped up 15 year old truck why not make a new one??? Make it slightly smaller than the current Tacoma and poof! $$$$$ in yer pockets, happy customers and a big o'l root in the tail of the other guys!

[human5]

To be honest, The whole Ranger thing is just speculation still. No one knows what's going on with the truck and Ford is being as quiet as a mouse. I think Ford and Nissan should team up like what's been roumered before. Nissan needs a new Titan and Ford needs a new Ranger. The Frontier is an amazing truck and quite possibly my next vehicle purchase unless I get a better deal on a new 5.0 Mustang or a F150. But like I said before, who knows what's going to happen with the truck.

Before anyone makes any negative remarks about Nissan and Ford teaming up, they did with some damn good results in the late 90's with the Quest/Villager/Windstar.

[Mazda Matt]

Just tell me where to sign and whatever else I can do to help save the Ranger. My Rangers and my B4000 are members of my family and I want to be able to add new ones for years to come!

[mp3deviant721]

I hope they keep making them. I have two (93 ext. cab 2wd and 94 ext. cab 4wd) and my dad has one (91 ext. cab 4wd).

[stegomon]

new truck in 2012 people...evan sooner i think

[MountainMike]

Yeah I think we may be misinterpreting that article. We aren't getting the globaal Ranger but we could very well get a NA Ranger again like we have now.

[Jason]

my nieghbor works at the minneapolis ranger plant and he says after 2011 they are retooling for some sort of small compact car, hes thinking its for the new 2012 festivas, and correct me if im mistaken i believe the minneapolis plant is the only US ranger plant right?

My Ranger was built in Edison, NJ.

[mattpresley]

To be honest, The whole Ranger thing is just speculation still. No one knows what's going on with the truck and Ford is being as quiet as a mouse. I think Ford and Nissan should team up like what's been roumered before. Nissan needs a new Titan and Ford needs a new Ranger. The Frontier is an amazing truck and quite possibly my next vehicle purchase unless I get a better deal on a new 5.0 Mustang or a F150. But like I said before, who knows what's going to happen with the truck.

Before anyone makes any negative remarks about Nissan and Ford teaming up, they did with some damn good results in the late 90's with the Quest/Villager/Windstar.

I prefer the titan to the f150 :)

[snoranger]

My Ranger was built in Edison, NJ.

The Edison plant is no more. They stopped making trucks and closed the door a few years ago. They demolished the plant over 1 year ago.

[human5]

I prefer the titan to the f150 :)

I like the Titan quite a bit to be honest. For a fullsize truck I'm torn between the Titan and the F150. The Titan is no longer as problematic as it was in 04-05. The truck is great and I work on em almost everyday. It has great power and is a decent size (better than the bloated Tundra, sorry, I just don't like the Tundra too much). But Nissan has had the Titan as is with little to no cosmetic or mechanical changes for 6 years now. Nissan was trying to get in bed with Dodge but that didn't happen. Nissan recently said they're either gonna find someone for the next gen Titan or go at it alone again. So, this is another thing that's up in the air as the Ranger.

[2000ranger17]

I love my Ranger, but if its discontinued I'll just have to get a Frontier or Tacoma as my next newer truck. They aren't terrible trucks. If I get another used truck it will be a F250 with the 7.3L PSD, Ranger wasn't necessarily in my plans unless they roll out a diesel. If the European Ranger were brought to the states and the manual transmission is kept I might like it.

thanks for helping the big 3 when they need it most.....:sad:

[2000ranger17]

My Ranger was built in Edison, NJ.

mine is from NJ as well

[BlackBII]

They cant kill the Ranger.

Far too many compaines rely on them for fleet vehicles. Like delivery trucks 'n such. (2.3L, Short bed, Single cab.)

Im not worried.

[willied]

If Ford wanted to they could easily make the best small truck ever, but we'll see.

[Jason]

The Edison plant is no more. They stopped making trucks and closed the door a few years ago. They demolished the plant over 1 year ago.

Judging by the quality of my truck, it's a good thing.

[FO44RD]

Judging by the quality of my truck, it's a good thing.

Try a Chevy next time...you will be running back to Ford.

[Buckeyeman]

Try a Chevy next time...you will be running back to Ford.

That's not saying a whole lot.

[tony314]

Ford can't keep up in the compact truck corner of the market.

The 4.3 in the Dimes will out a 4.0 w/o a doubt.

Toyota and the foreigns are throwin in lockers, super chargers, and deeper gearing.

Ford could make a very good compact truck, if they would pull their heads out of their asses.

I'm still a blue oval boy, but it's no big loss to me if they kill the Ranger. To me, it died in 98.

If you want a basic as hell fleet truck, Ford's the way to go. If you want all the bells and whistles, look across the ocean.

The 99 and newer Rangers are just as good as 98 and older. Sorry to say. I've had older Rangers,but I take a new one ( mine ) over an older one any day of the week!

[seanm]

Ford has to kill the Ranger. At least in Canada, it is one of the few vehicles they have with double digit growth figures :icon_confused:

[jimmy3970]

I like the old style Rangers like the 85's. Thats what I have & it is all custom out. The picture in my avatar is my custom out 85 Ford Ranger I have had since 1989. It has a 302 v8 engine in it & also have a c-6 tranny & a b&M shifter & lots of chrome on the engine & a chrome tranny pan too. You can see the engine pics at RBV Photo Galleries & then go to Street Rangers & click on the J's & click on jimmy3970 & you can see the Ranger.

[oldjohnny]

thanks for helping the big 3 when they need it most.....:sad:

I agree. I try to help American brands as much as I can. You sure as hell will never see me in a Toyota lot. I know Ford and Chevy outsource a lot of jobs (IE parts assembly), but at the end, the profits come back to America, not Japan.

[BDAB]

I agree. I try to help American brands as much as I can. You sure as hell will never see me in a Toyota lot. I know Ford and Chevy outsource a lot of jobs (IE parts assembly), but at the end, the profits come back to America, not Japan.

so its ok to line the pockets of Bill Ford (admitted communist) who likes to bash America and donate money to "Off-Road" hating charities like the Sierra club but its not okay to buy a product from Toyota of America (which has American Share Holders) even though 90% of the Toyotas sold here are built here...... even 50% of their parts (on average) are built here...... How many Fords sold here are built here? I know my Chrysler came from Mexico and my Silverado came from Canada

Even the new 6.7L powerstroke (AKA Scorpion) that everybody is drooling over will be built in Mexico.

so you think Bill Ford spends as much money in the American Economy as say 100,000 workers that work for Toyota of America?........

[seanm]

My Ranger was built in Edison, NJ.

Is there a way to tell where the truck was made? Or do you just go by the year?

On the door panel it says when it was made, Feb 1998, but only "Made in the USA".

[Alex FX4]

so its ok to line the pockets of Bill Ford (admitted communist) who likes to bash America and donate money to "Off-Road" hating charities like the Sierra club but its not okay to buy a product from Toyota of America (which has American Share Holders) even though 90% of the Toyotas sold here are built here...... even 50% of their parts (on average) are built here...... How many Fords sold here are built here? I know my Chrysler came from Mexico and my Silverado came from Canada

Even the new 6.7L powerstroke (AKA Scorpion) that everybody is drooling over will be built in Mexico.

so you think Bill Ford spends as much money in the American Economy as say 100,000 workers that work for Toyota of America?........

I think the big problem is not were its made, its the name... people who want an american truck want an american name.

But i do agree with you.

[rockwerks]

I like the Titan quite a bit to be honest. For a fullsize truck I'm torn between the Titan and the F150. The Titan is no longer as problematic as it was in 04-05. The truck is great and I work on em almost everyday. It has great power and is a decent size (better than the bloated Tundra, sorry, I just don't like the Tundra too much). But Nissan has had the Titan as is with little to no cosmetic or mechanical changes for 6 years now. Nissan was trying to get in bed with Dodge but that didn't happen. Nissan recently said they're either gonna find someone for the next gen Titan or go at it alone again. So, this is another thing that's up in the air as the Ranger.

Our Resort has a 2009 F150 and frankly it just sits because its a total pile of crap!

IT gets about 12 mpg.

The auto trans has to be driven in 3rd 90% of the time or it just bucks and bucks at any speed such as intown driving.

The horn has had to be fixed 3 times already in 20,000 miles. ya close the hood after checking oil and the horn turns on and has to be disconnected and back to the stealership.

The seats are the most uncomfortable I have seen in any vehicle, 30 minutes of driving and my legs start to fall asleep.

The heater control does not work at all. either its 100% heat or 100% cold. Nothing in between, You can leave the heater control in the same place and each time you start the truck it will be a different temp, the dealer says it works as designed.

That is just a few of the interesting problems with the truck

I love my 95 Mazda B4000 and would not trade it for anything

[Fast Fords]

sounds like your resort truck got the shit end of the stick lol! :icon_twisted:

you should get your "steal-ership" to take a better look at those issues..sounds like a bunch of TSBs to me..

[rockwerks]

sounds like your resort truck got the shit end of the stick lol! :icon_twisted:

you should get your "steal-ership" to take a better look at those issues..sounds like a bunch of TSBs to me..

They look at it monthly. I have driven many ford trucks over the years and except for the ranger line they have all sucked

[Jason]

Try a Chevy next time...you will be running back to Ford.

I added a Tacoma to the family fleet and I am sad to report that while I still have the Ranger, I won't be buying another.

Buying a chevy is like trading poop for puke. Why bother?

[Jason]

I agree. I try to help American brands as much as I can. You sure as hell will never see me in a Toyota lot. I know Ford and Chevy outsource a lot of jobs (IE parts assembly), but at the end, the profits come back to America, not Japan.

The profits go to suppliers and stockholders ALL OVER THE WORLD. Just like every carmaker. The only way buying a car helps America alone is through the wages paid to American workers. Toyota spends just as much on that here as any of the big 3 and they don't have the benefit of NAFTA making Mexico count as "domestic" parts content.

[85_Ranger4x4]

They look at it monthly. I have driven many ford trucks over the years and except for the ranger line they have all sucked

Everybody I have talked to love their '09 F-150's. If I HAD to buy a new truck, that would be it... but I would have to total out my '02 first and I don't look forward to that day. In my immediate family we have four fullsize trucks ranging from 1980 to 2004, they have all been good to us.

[rockwerks]

Ive dealt with 3 and I would not have bought any of them

[mkinney74]

My 89 ranger was stolen November 29th 2009 no word from the cops i don't think they are even looking for it :bawling:

[Jason]

My 89 ranger was stolen November 29th 2009 no word from the cops i don't think they are even looking for it :bawling:

That sucks but how far could it have gone? It's not like they stole it for a chop shop.

[mkinney74]

not sure how far it could go i had 1000 dollars worth of tires and rims on it so i think they wanted them nothing else was worth much it was an almost stock 21 year old truck who knows

[bullitt]

If I wanted to buy a new truck, i would buy what i like, Ford. Not because they are the best, or because of where the money is going to, or because "i hate Toyota", because i like Fords'. It would be sad to see my favorite name plate go away, just like GM or Chrysler fans would hate to think of them becoming extinct. They might not be 100% made in America, but what they stand for should still be American, just like apple pie. But if "the big three" loose out, well then it was there own fault. Foriegn automakers "sold it", and America bought it, they must be doing something the "the big three" aren't. As far as the Ranger goes, would I spend that much money on a new one; spec'd out the way I want it? No, I would prolly spend some more and get an F150, more room and damn near the same gas milage. So if Ford is going to continue production, i think they need to remake it completley.

[mkinney74]

Just remember where the profits from selling the foreign cars goes to, over seas not to america i will never buy a foreign car it will be one of the big three even though i hate GM i will still buy it over anything that the main profit goes somewhere other than this country.

[Jason]

Just remember where the profits from selling the foreign cars goes to, over seas not to america i will never buy a foreign car it will be one of the big three even though i hate GM i will still buy it over anything that the main profit goes somewhere other than this country.

You have no clue about economics. Are you in school?

[85_Ranger4x4]

Just remember where the profits from selling the foreign cars goes to, over seas not to america i will never buy a foreign car it will be one of the big three even though i hate GM i will still buy it over anything that the main profit goes somewhere other than this country.

Profits? Toyota is in the red now...

[dirtsquirt]

At least this report says so. Ok there may be a market for a "midsize" truck that Ford can sell but we need the Ranger.

Jim and others: We need a list of names, signatures etc sent to Ford to let them know we want a new Ranger. If possible get the other forums involved as well. I can see so many names associated with each forum there must be thousands that could contribute, even if you can email them to let them know about this.

Here's the link to Autoblog's article: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/09/report-mullaly-says-global-ranger-and-ka-wont-be-offered-in-fo/

Let's get something going!!!!!! :annoyed:

Just look at the year of the truck in your profile 1994. I see you have been buying the new models.. And that is all ford looks at!!!!!!

[dirtsquirt]

Just remember where the profits from selling the foreign cars goes to, over seas not to america i will never buy a foreign car it will be one of the big three even though i hate GM i will still buy it over anything that the main profit goes somewhere other than this country.

Looking at your point of view, We the people of Canada, should not buy ford,dodge,or gm all those are U.S based. your lodgic just does not compute.

What about all those cars/trucks made in the U.S sent over sea's. What if all those sales stoped. just think about it. thousands of units built and shipped over seas. unit's no longer needed means workers no longer needed.

World trade is a huge part of your countries ecomnomics. same as my country. What if the rest of the world said.... DO not buy U.S made products.. Ouch you think it's bad Now.

Other Auto manufactors by products made in our countries, for their cars they sell in all markets, those account for jobs and profits for home grown companies, Ford GM and dodge all have parts made in other countries, import home, install and sell to you.

Using your lodgic, My Country should throw tarriff's on all thing made in the U.S same as, your Country did with the softwood tarriffs. Those tarriffs cost me my job of 22 years. and drove your home construction cost up 30%

[TheOne]

well said dirtsquirt!!

i love my 08 dodge ram before i had to get rid of it...everything was awesome about it...except the seats in the cold that could give u hemeriods but thats another story...

would i buy dodge again...if i could afford it YES!

the only thing that puzzles me is a 09 dakota goes for 30 000 up here a 09 ram goes for 26 500 same package 4x4 everything...

kinda makes u wonder...

[dirtsquirt]

LOL i understand that, i was shoping around for a new unit in november to replace my bronco 2. I looked at everything out there, in the smaller SUV. Not much to choose from, to much fluff and no gut's. so i started looking at trucks ( not really ) a good choice for me. I ended up with a jeep unlimited rubicon. all i can say is a match made in heaven.

[dirtsquirt]

Good night everyone I am off to work in my $250.000 U.S made grader, plowing snow

[The Luigiian]

LOL i understand that, i was shoping around for a new unit in november to replace my bronco 2. I looked at everything out there, in the smaller SUV. Not much to choose from, to much fluff and no gut's. so i started looking at trucks ( not really ) a good choice for me. I ended up with a jeep unlimited rubicon. all i can say is a match made in heaven.

Same here. I was looking at trucks, then decided to see if there were any small five-seater SUVs besides the Wrangler with any "truckiness". I found that the soccer moms have hijacked virtually the whole genre, they're all either too big to be taken off-road or small station wagons on stilts.

I centered on a Jeep Patriot, lost interest because it's just not very desireable or reliable, and the Suzuki Grand Vitara is only given a transfer case if you turn it into a a luxury liner, and even then, no skids and less than 8" ground clearance.

The truck market is ridiculous. Once I started hearing critics complain that the Grand Vitara was "too trucklike" I knew that the old-school capable truck will become a dinosaur if the mainstream car guys have anything to say about it.

[koda6966]

This will be the most stupid thing ford as done but if it's true boys and girls hold on to your rangers hopefully it's a lie

what are they going to do stick us with this
http://www.freewebs.com/nunzio7/FordSuperChief_Det08.jpg

I do not think These global warming People let this come out everyone needs a good gas saving truck

Sorry to burst your bubble but that's a fullsize concept truck and is a few years old.

[dirtsquirt]

Man do i miss the day's when a truck was a truck, and a car was a car. I would much rather have a unit with solid axles, manual transfer case, lockers, a strong frame, 10 ply tires, solid bumpers, just a good old work horse.

I seen a photo of a bronco prototype on this site a few months back. If it was for sale i would have bought one in a heart beat. When i bought my jeep i had never even considerd one,to short and no room. never crossed my mind. my first stop was ford, my bronco had treated me very well over the years i have had it. So ford was my first stop. nothing then i started looking at other unit's My wife would love most of those ,but not for me.

My son and i spent 10 hours on a saturday shoping around, i was frustrated and tired. and were on our way home. My son spotted my rubicon on a lot, We stoped and looked, i noticed it was longer then the others, came with lockers and D44 solid axles, in line 4.0 6 cyl. dealer said take it for a drive, hell take it for the night, and try it out. I dropped of a check in the morning.

[downzero]

I've been very happy with my 2000 ranger and it'd be a shame, but they want too much for the new trucks. I paid $6k for my truck in 2003 and have over 160k miles on it now. Build me another one like this one that sells for $6k when it's 3 years old and I'll buy another!

[Jay FX4]

For $250, I could get a ticket to the "Charity Preview" for the North American International Auto Show on Jan. 15. I could mingle with Ford executives, including Mulally himself, and try to get the inside scoop.:D

[MountainMike]

i noticed it was longer then the others, came with lockers and D44 solid axles, in line 4.0 6 cyl. dealer said take it for a drive, hell take it for the night, and try it out. I dropped of a check in the morning.

Rubi Unlimited, I looked high and low for one of those in my price range but ended up 'settling' on the Ranger. The extra wheelbase may have detrimants (sp?) on the trail but it handles spades better than the normal one on the road and towing.

[dirtsquirt]

Rubi Unlimited, I looked high and low for one of those in my price range but ended up 'settling' on the Ranger. The extra wheelbase may have detrimants (sp?) on the trail but it handles spades better than the normal one on the road and towing.

I just about bought a ranger, but the sale guy got to pushy for me. ( needed) a SUV more. the wheel base is 103 inches on the rubi. and it's 15 inches longer then a regular TJ. It's getting a 4 inch lift next weekend.

[1mean02hd]

I love my Rangers. I have had 4 Rangers so far in my lifetime, and have 2 still to this day (a 94 ext. cab 2wd with a V8, and a 95 4x4 ext. cab), and an 02 F150 and 2 Mustangs. I've had GM products when I was in high school and my brother still has his 90 YJ Wrangler he bought 10 years ago. I also used to work for a Chevrolet/ Dodge/ Chrysler/ Jeep dealership. The other guys used to always heckle me about driving a Ford but every time I turned around, their GM or Mopar product was in the shop getting worked on. I am partial to Fords, but I have worked on almost everything. Fords seem to be the vehicles that you can beat on day after day and they still come back for more. Sure, they may have stupid stuff go up on them but I see more and more older Fords everyday still on the road. The other brands just don't seem to hold up. I do agree that manufacturers are getting to be a little pansy with the way they build them today, but I love my Ford trucks and I wouldn't buy anything else.

[mkinney74]

You have no clue about economics. Are you in school?

I am not in school i am a mechanic for a mitsubishi dealership, i know where their profits go to and its not all in to the owners pocket or into mine or any other employee there. the majority goes the corprate which is based in japan

[Jason]

I am not in school i am a mechanic for a mitsubishi dealership, i know where their profits go to and its not all in to the owners pocket or into mine or any other employee there. the majority goes the corprate which is based in japan
Thanks for proving my point. The profit goes to the stockholders who, just like Ford's, are all over the world. Welcome to the global economy. We have been waiting for you for two decades now at least.

Unfortunately, you have shown us that you do not know where the profits go.

[Madracingalley]

Most of the Ford Stockholders are in The US, Canada, and the UK. Not Xhinxzhigz or some place with names with letters in places that don't make sense

[The Luigiian]

It's totally official, everybody. Ford to Ranger customers: Buy an F-150 or go to hell (i.e. go to the Toyota dealership)

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/01/ford-f150-is-likely-ranger-replacement.html

I love how PickupTrucks.com is being all wishful thinking on our asses:

Still, Kuzak said it's possible the U.S. might get a direct replacement for the Ranger.

"It's no secret we have a new Ranger coming globally. We're working on one for all the other markets in the world," Kuzak said. "The difference is that all of those other markets only have a Ranger. They don't have an F-150 above it."

It's so obvious he's telling us we're not getting the international Ranger. I can't believe Mike Levine is trying to make it sound like it's possible. It's a pipe dream. Not happening. The compact truck market is dead in the United States.

I love this gem of a quote:

"Today, a lot of customers who buy Rangers are the people who use it as a commuter vehicle," Derek Kuzak, Ford's group vice president of product development, told PickupTrucks.com last week at the North American International Auto Show. "But with the new Ford Fiesta and Focus coming into the lineup, those kinds of customers will have other alternatives to the Ranger."

The F-150 is so huge you need a stepladder to get into the bed, and I'm supposed to either buy that kind of monstrosity or go straight down to a subcompact sedan? **** you Kuzak, that's B.S. and you know it.

The Ranger is a vehicle for people that need basic utility. F-150 will not provide it. Transit Connect doesn't have an open bed to shovel in mulch or gravel. Focus is worthless in off-roading or anything besides basic transportation.

This may make sense from a financial position but it essentially means Ford's given up yet another market to Toyota. And the Tacoma buyers of today will become the Tundra buyers of tomorrow.

[seanm]

Of all the vehicles I have owned, the '98 Ranger is my second favorite. The M38A1 was my favorite, but let's face it.... the M38A1 was not a practical vehicle, the Ranger is.

I have toyed with buying an F150, but they are hard to park in the city, are too high off the ground for practical access to the bed, and won't fit in my garage.

[Madracingalley]

This may make sense from a financial position but it essentially means Ford's given up yet another market to Toyota. And the Tacoma buyers of today will become the Tundra buyers of tomorrow.

I will DIE before I even though about buying a Taco, let alone drive one farther than the garage bay.

Gotta make money somhow....

[seanm]

I will DIE before I even though about buying a Taco, let alone drive one farther than the garage bay.

Gotta make money somhow....

I'm not quite that against the tacoma; if somebody gave me one, I would take it ;) But the odds of me buying one are zero.

Hoping the Ranger lasts a few more years....

[Jason]

I will DIE before I even though about buying a Taco, let alone drive one farther than the garage bay.

Gotta make money somhow....

LOL. You should compromise. you obviously already have with your choice of trucks.

The Ranger is good but frankly doesn't do anything better than a similar Tacoma besides being less expensive.

[Jason]

Most of the Ford Stockholders are in The US, Canada, and the UK. Not Xhinxzhigz or some place with names with letters in places that don't make sense

Any proof of this? I am a Ford stockholder and I don't see anything to back that up anywhere including my stockholder reports. Also, since you are backpeddling badly, do you know where Toyota's stockholders are located? I figured I would ask you since you seem to hold all the answers to the stock trading world.

BTW, the childish comment about the names of foreign countries pretty much sums up the lack of world exposure that brings you to have such a misguided opinion while repeating misinformation that I am guessing you simply regurgitated from someone.

[4x4fun]

i hear everyone talk about save the big three, and buy American. thats all well and good. but why would i spend my hard on money on one of the few crappy things America makes. and you cant blame the consumer that US cars/trucks suck for one reason or another. they fell behind the curve, in alot of different areas. and now trying to use "save the big three" as an excuse. F that. if you can keep up get out of the way.

as fars as were the profits go. any one that would notice my one truck missing from there numbers; payes taxes to uncle sam.

[BDAB]

I'm sorry ....... I think F-150s are worthless (I apologize to anybody that owns one and thinks they are the cat's ass) as well as any other full size half ton pick up.

They are hard to park, expensive to manufacture/buy, and don't fit on a trail. All they are is a yuppy lifestyle vehicle.

Keep the Ranger, drop the F-150, and make the F-250 the base model Full size.

[masterbrenden]

I'm sorry ....... I think F-150s are worthless (I apologize to anybody that owns one and thinks they are the cat's ass) as well as any other full size half ton pick up.

They are hard to park, expensive to manufacture/buy, and don't fit on a trail. All they are is a yuppy lifestyle vehicle.

Keep the Ranger, drop the F-150, and make the F-250 the base model Full size.

and bring back a better more reliable diesel to both of them

[mkinney74]

I cant say that i know a whole lot about the economy cause im only 20 and havent seen a lot but i am employed by a foreign auto maker but it is a personal choise of mine to by an american made car i know that most automakers have plants in america and yes anyone can have stock in almost any company but i will still choose ford or dodge over toyota and all cars can last its just how they are taken care of.

[akalogan]

How many toyota's were just recalled? There is no such animal as a perfect vehicle. I just perfer fords I like the way they feel and drive. I do think the ranger is one hell of a little truck. It is just not quite big enough for me though and the price difference between a f150 and a f 250 makes that one an easy choice. F250 all the way.

[Jason]

How many toyota's were just recalled? There is no such animal as a perfect vehicle. I just perfer fords I like the way they feel and drive. I do think the ranger is one hell of a little truck. It is just not quite big enough for me though and the price difference between a f150 and a f 250 makes that one an easy choice. F250 all the way.

Recalls happen and no one said perfect.

FYI though. The problem they issued a recall for is far less severe than some issues that have existed and been ignored by all of the Big 3.

[parapup3]

Here is my two cents worth...if they do stop production on the Ranger in the 2011 model year. I'll switch my thoughts to buying a Dodge Dakota, and will fully change my alligence<sp> to Dodge and FORD can bite the big one after that.

[BDAB]

Here is my two cents worth...if they do stop production on the Ranger in the 2011 model year. I'll switch my thoughts to buying a Dodge Dakota, and will fully change my alligence<sp> to Dodge and FORD can bite the big one after that.

No Dakota either...... its being dropped in favor of that monstrosity called a 1500.

[The Luigiian]

If Ranger is given the 2.0 Ecoboost before its death, I'll get one with 4wd and keep it as long as I can.

If Explorer has any semblance of off-road capability whatsoever once it switches to unibody, I'll get one of that with 4wd and keep it as long as I can.

If both of the above are untrue, I'll see how fuel-efficient the F-150 is and if it gets 20 mpg or better in mixed driving on EPA cycle I'll get one of those.

If none of the above are true, I'll probably end up either buying a used Explorer, or Jeep Patriot, leaky roofs be damned. I wanted to have a fuel-efficient off-roader that I could take to the bus station on Monday and take to some mild trails on Sunday, but the major manufacturers seem to be making that as hard as possible because they won't shrink their vehicles to make them lighter and don't want to get off the stupid crossover fad.

There is no reason for these crossovers to exist, they are as pointless as midsize trucks. Almost the same MPG as a real SUV with none of the capability. Same as the midsize truck with same MPG as a fullsize and none of the fullsize capability.

[85_Ranger4x4]

I'm sorry ....... I think F-150s are worthless (I apologize to anybody that owns one and thinks they are the cat's ass) as well as any other full size half ton pick up.

They are hard to park, expensive to manufacture/buy, and don't fit on a trail. All they are is a yuppy lifestyle vehicle.

Keep the Ranger, drop the F-150, and make the F-250 the base model Full size.

18mpg unloaded with cheaper than diesel gas, it tows my 5000 lb tractor with ease, and cost me $17k 4.5 years ago with 25k miles on it. A comparable diesel (that would get something resembling milage) was over $30k. 5.4/6.8 trucks were in between and both are notorious gas sucking pigs. My "Yuppie lifestyle vehicle" gets comparable milage to a unloaded 5.4/6.8 when I am pulling a tractor at about 11 or 12mpg, and would rip a 5.4 F-250 apart in acceleration without a trailer.

No I don't think a Ranger or F-250 would do what I do any better any cheaper, and it is much easier to drive and park as well (than my dad's '04 F-250 that drives like an aircraft carrier) If I towed my tractor more often it probably wouldn't be bad, but for 5-6 trips a year at peak load it is hard to justify the extra bulk.

F-250/350 trucks were a major status symbol in the city a few years ago, and now that people have realized that they don't need them there are quite a few of them looking for a new home. Back when dad was looking for one last summer it was surpising hard to find one that wasn't a tricked out diesel.

The niche for a F-150 is bigger for a personal use vehicle than either of the other two, there are a lot of boats and campers that are too big for a Ranger, and too small to justify a F-250/350. I also thought about getting a Ranger, they were a little cheaper but got the same milage, were essentially a two seater no matter the cab configuration, and no more capable than my '85 so why bother?

[exbass94]

major manufacturers seem to be making that as hard as possible because they won't shrink their vehicles to make them lighter and don't want to get off the stupid crossover fad.

There is no reason for these crossovers to exist, they are as pointless as midsize trucks. Almost the same MPG as a real SUV with none of the capability. Same as the midsize truck with same MPG as a fullsize and none of the fullsize capability.

Almost the same mpg? My buddy's GMC Terrain gets 30 mpg. Name one "real SUV" that comes close to that. Crossovers are more than capable to do everything that 99.6% of SUV buyers want to do with them. Which is NOT OFF-ROADING!!! My Explorer is pretty off-road capable. Do I ever take it off-road? No. Never. Same as everyone else in this country. Do I wish it got better than 17 mpg and had a more comfy ride (like say, an Escape or a Terrain?) Absolutely. Same as everyone else in this country. Hence the shift away from truck-based SUVs towards crossovers. They ARE way, way WAY more practical for what 99% of everyone uses them for.

[The Luigiian]

Almost the same mpg? My buddy's GMC Terrain gets 30 mpg. Name one "real SUV" that comes close to that.

They can't, because the newer SUVs are heavier than the original SUVs that they replaced, and the automakers give them ancient, inefficient powertrains like the 4.0 V6, which is admittedly reliable but guzzles gas.

Crossovers are more than capable to do everything that 99.6% of SUV buyers want to do with them. Which is NOT OFF-ROADING!!! My Explorer is pretty off-road capable. Do I ever take it off-road? No. Never. Same as everyone else in this country. Do I wish it got better than 17 mpg and had a more comfy ride (like say, an Escape or a Terrain?) Absolutely. Same as everyone else in this country.

Everyone else? Hardly. I couldn't care less about ride. Fuel economy, I'll get to in a second.

Hence the shift away from truck-based SUVs towards crossovers. They ARE way, way WAY more practical for what 99% of everyone uses them for.

Yes, and a station wagon would be even more practical. If you want a comfy carlike ride, why not buy a better-handling, more fuel efficient station wagon? Is that SUV "look" really so important?

Crossovers, I say again, are silly. They are built to look like SUVs. That is all they do that they can do better than a wagon or minivan. Wagons can handle better in on-road situations, minivans would have more room.

You can have your crossovers, my mother has an Escape and she loves it. But I'm 21 years old, I don't care about ride, and the only reason I truly care about fuel economy is because I don't like to use natural resources with reckless abandon. If it weren't for that I'd get an Explorer or old-school Cherokee, no question.

The new Explorers, in my humble opinion, have lost their way. They're too heavy, not for safety in crash tests but for increased room, and they have nothing in particular that separates them from station wagons and minivans. The new Explorer only increases that similarity. It's exactly the same as a Flex or Edge. I ask you, is the "look" really important enough to choose the unibody Explorer over the Edge? Or any "crossover" versus its wagon competition for that matter?

[exbass94]

They can't, because the newer SUVs are heavier than the original SUVs that they replaced, and the automakers give them ancient, inefficient powertrains like the 4.0 V6, which is admittedly reliable but guzzles gas.

They can't? Umm, they CAN, and they DO. How does my buddy actually get 30 mpg? Someone is sneaking gas into his tank when he's not looking?

Everyone else? Hardly. I couldn't care less about ride. Fuel economy, I'll get to in a second.

Ok, you're in the vast minority then. Everyone else, yes everyone else wants good ride quality.

Yes, and a station wagon would be even more practical. If you want a comfy carlike ride, why not buy a better-handling, more fuel efficient station wagon? Is that SUV "look" really so important?

Because station wagons are practically extinct by now. Minivans aren't far behind.

Crossovers, I say again, are silly. They are built to look like SUVs. That is all they do that they can do better than a wagon or minivan. Wagons can handle better in on-road situations, minivans would have more room.

People want SUVs but don't need off-road capability and want good gas mileage. What you end up with is a crossover. Nobody wants a wagon or a minivan. Simple supply and demand.
You can have your crossovers, my mother has an Escape and she loves it. But I'm 21 years old, I don't care about ride, and the only reason I truly care about fuel economy is because I don't like to use natural resources with reckless abandon. If it weren't for that I'd get an Explorer or old-school Cherokee, no question.
I'm 21 years old too, what's your point? That all 21 year old's don't care about ride quality? You're wrong.
I ask you, is the "look" really important enough to choose the unibody Explorer over the Edge?
The unibody Explorer isn't out yet. If I were in the market for such a vehicle (and I'm not) I would consider it and compare it to the Edge. (I really do like the Edge btw.) I would choose whichever is better in power, features, price, etc.
Or any "crossover" versus its wagon competition for that matter?

WHAT wagon competition? Where are these wagons you speak of? Which car company, besides maybe Subaru, is building wagons?

[The Luigiian]

Apologies for the snippy debate exbass.

I simply don't understand crossovers, and I especially don't get this "ride" thing that everybody always talks about. (Dead serious.) You must understand, I've ridden, since I was a child, in primarily Jeep Cherokees, Ford F-150s, Chevy Silverados, and Rangers. And for most of that time my family lived on a piece of land connected to Albuquerque by about twenty miles of dirt road. Since then I primarily take the bus, or various cars that just don't appeal to me. When you're taking the bus every day, things like "ride" and "sumptuous interior" don't mean much. :P

As for your first comment, when I say I think an SUV could match the mileage of a crossover, what I mean is, "if you were to take an early Explorer and put in the new 2.0 Ecoboost, six-speed automatic, and four-wheel drive it would be light enough that it could match the new ones."

Nevermind. Even the Patriot I mentioned is a crossover, just one with a bit of underbody protection and some token nods towards going on nasty trails, so I suppose even I don't mind the crossovers that much. The Patriot reminds me of our old Cherokee, and that's what I like the most about it and the other tough-looking utes like the Terrain (and what separates it from the rather bland RAV-4s and CR-Vs, no offense to those people).

Anyway, if they can make that little Jeep crossover get 30 mpg, I'll take everything I said about crossovers. Maybe not as capable as I would like, but at least I wouldn't have to pay as much to drive it.

[exbass94]

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[Fargo Wolf]

I don't know about you guys, but I don't want that "Global Ford Ranger" shown in the link.
Yeah... I don't like the instrument panel of the European Rangers either. I DO wish the Rangers here were sold with the crew cab (double cab) and/or flat deck like they are in New Zealand.

They cant kill the Ranger.

Far too many compaines rely on them for fleet vehicles. Like delivery trucks 'n such. (2.3L, Short bed, Single cab.)
I noticed the City of Kamloops has switched to using a fair number of Rangers in the last couple of years. Parks dept. mostly. Prior to this, they had been using full size trucks.
How many Fords sold here are built here? I know my Chrysler came from Mexico and my Silverado came from Canada

Even the new 6.7L powerstroke (AKA Scorpion) that everybody is drooling over will be built in Mexico.
Could be worse. Far worse. Your Ranger COULD have been made in Chinkland. Be thankful it was made in North America at all. The quality of Canadian made vehicles is on par with US ones. The Scorpion may be made in Mexico, but at least the Mexicans will put considerable effort into making it a quality product, unlike Chinkland who doesn't give a rats ass whether or not it blows up in your face. Anyone who says Chinks make quality products needs to be shot and/or die a slow, horrible death.:annoyed:
That sucks but how far could it have gone? It's not like they stole it for a chop shop.
Probably for the cargo capacity. You could pop a couple of dirt bikes or a quad in the back. If it had a canopy on it, then one could use it for hauling drugs (both legal and/or illegal), electronics and so on. If it had a frame hitch, all of the above, just in greater quantities.

Good night everyone I am off to work in my $250.000 U.S made grader, plowing snow
I want your job. It pays a lot more.... :bawling:

[93project]

there is a euro ranger thats real nice i want the front clip to mod on to a 93 it is produced in Thailand and they are fixing to bring it to america but its 4 door. india is making a small truck and bringing it into the market replace the ranger for real cheap they were going to build in ohio then switched to build in india but it will come in 2011 the thailand ranger front end is elegant and nice what do you guys think

[nitrofan1]

there is a euro ranger thats real nice i want the front clip to mod on to a 93 it is produced in Thailand and they are fixing to bring it to america but its 4 door. india is making a small truck and bringing it into the market replace the ranger for real cheap they were going to build in ohio then switched to build in india but it will come in 2011 the thailand ranger front end is elegant and nice what do you guys think

Um, no they are not bringing anything to the U.S. Didn't you read the thread title? LOL

[Southern_Trendkill]

I'm sorry ....... I think F-150s are worthless (I apologize to anybody that owns one and thinks they are the cat's ass) as well as any other full size half ton pick up.

They are hard to park, expensive to manufacture/buy, and don't fit on a trail. All they are is a yuppy lifestyle vehicle.

Keep the Ranger, drop the F-150, and make the F-250 the base model Full size.

You have a right to your opinion, but there are many reasons to use an F-150.

I have one because the Ranger does not work for me. I like them, and think they're great trucks, but I'm 6'4", and I can barely fit in a Ranger. In my F-150, I have plenty of room, a backseat/storage area, and an 8' bed. I can't get that in a Ranger.

And yes, I do need an 8' bed. I regularly carry 2 motorcycles, 10-15 gallons of gas, bike stands, full riding gear for 2 riders, enough tools to rebuild my bikes, food, water, and lots of other supplies. I could fit that in my Ranger, but not with the tailgate up, and I don't like having to lash down everything in the bed. Plus, if I wanted to take more than 2 people, I'd have to take a second vehicle. I've tried this in my Ranger, and the backseat was unusable, and I had to leave the tailgate down, which I hate doing, just in case the straps come loose. With the tailgate up, I may damage it, but if it was down, I'd be cleaning parts off the interstate.

I don't do hardcore off-roading, but I've gotten my 20' long truck with no lift through some pretty tight, muddy areas, and never had an issue.


So my truck isn't good for rockcrawling, but could Ranger carry three riders, their bikes, and gear through the woods? And could an F350 do it without getting stuck?

[BDAB]

You have a right to your opinion, but there are many reasons to use an F-150.

I have one because the Ranger does not work for me. I like them, and think they're great trucks, but I'm 6'4", and I can barely fit in a Ranger. In my F-150, I have plenty of room, a backseat/storage area, and an 8' bed. I can't get that in a Ranger.

And yes, I do need an 8' bed. I regularly carry 2 motorcycles, 10-15 gallons of gas, bike stands, full riding gear for 2 riders, enough tools to rebuild my bikes, food, water, and lots of other supplies. I could fit that in my Ranger, but not with the tailgate up, and I don't like having to lash down everything in the bed. Plus, if I wanted to take more than 2 people, I'd have to take a second vehicle. I've tried this in my Ranger, and the backseat was unusable, and I had to leave the tailgate down, which I hate doing, just in case the straps come loose. With the tailgate up, I may damage it, but if it was down, I'd be cleaning parts off the interstate.

I don't do hardcore off-roading, but I've gotten my 20' long truck with no lift through some pretty tight, muddy areas, and never had an issue.


So my truck isn't good for rockcrawling, but could Ranger carry three riders, their bikes, and gear through the woods? And could an F350 do it without getting stuck?


and I still think they are a useless yuppy lifestyle vehicle. F250 and the F150 are of comparable size........ and with the F250 you an have an 8' bed AND a 4 door cab...... And an F150 is still not going to get the mileage that a 4 cyl 5spd ranger gets. The big 3 are going to lose fleet sale business because of dropping an economically priced compact pick up.

[Southern_Trendkill]

and I still think they are a useless yuppy lifestyle vehicle. F250 and the F150 are of comparable size........ and with the F250 you an have an 8' bed AND a 4 door cab...... And an F150 is still not going to get the mileage that a 4 cyl 5spd ranger gets. The big 3 are going to lose fleet sale business because of dropping an economically priced compact pick up.

I don't know about Michigan, but I pay taxes based on the GVWR of my truck.

Plus, it's been the best selling truck pretty much since it came out. Call it a yuppy vehicle all you want, but numbers don't lie. It would be stupid for Ford to drop their best-selling vehicle just to appease a handful of purists.

[BDAB]

we pay based on MSRP. so like that POS minivan cost more a year to register than my 3/4 ton chevy and the 'Kick put together ......

[85_Ranger4x4]

and I still think they are a useless yuppy lifestyle vehicle. F250 and the F150 are of comparable size........ and with the F250 you an have an 8' bed AND a 4 door cab...... And an F150 is still not going to get the mileage that a 4 cyl 5spd ranger gets. The big 3 are going to lose fleet sale business because of dropping an economically priced compact pick up.

Dad's F-250 is wider, longer and the front wheels don't turn as sharp. The thing turns like an aircraft carrier to my F-150. Like I mentioned before it is also a slow gas sucking pig compared to my F-150 as well. Supposed to be the same engine but you can't tell by driving them, and with 3.73's vs my 3.31's he should rip me apart with fairly similar sized tires. It has a different transmixer (which isn't any stronger) and must have a lot more weight in it.

I haven't spent spent much time in newer Rangers or newer F-150's, but my '02 pretty much splits up the difference in interior width between my Ranger and dad's F-250.

It is just like buying computers, for just a little more money you can get such a bigger truck that the cheaper one isn't really justifyable until you end up with a monster you don't need and somehow you have spent a lot more money than you meant to. I have heard a lot of people say the F-250 is a waste because for a couple hundred more you can get a F-350, which is far more plausable than killing off the number one selling vehicle (not just truck) in the US.

If I got a F-250, it would be a '97-'98 F-250LD that shared the same body as a half ton, I have no use for the extra bulk. Later they just called it a F-150.

[Josh40601]

I have to agree that the F150 is a great truck. As far as the subject of the forum, it does such very much that Ford is killing off the Ranger. I think when it comes to B4B, the ranger is the best in the midsize class. The Tacoma is 27 grand for the extracab v6 and the Frontier is 28 grand for the extracab V6. I honestly think the I5 in the Colorado doesnt have enough "ass" to compare to the V6 in the Ranger. Although the Ranger might not be the nicest of the whole group, I think it serves it purpose as a smaller pickup that can help you move, haul your dirtbike, and still fit into a compact parking spot for a realatively cheap price.

[86_cookiemonster]

I'm sorry ....... I think F-150s are worthless (I apologize to anybody that owns one and thinks they are the cat's ass) as well as any other full size half ton pick up.

They are hard to park, expensive to manufacture/buy, and don't fit on a trail. All they are is a yuppy lifestyle vehicle.

Keep the Ranger, drop the F-150, and make the F-250 the base model Full size.

see not everyone uses their trucks for trail ridding, some people use them for pulling boats, or work trucks, where you need something bigger. I get what you are saying, but to cut the F-150 is like cutting off the foot thats not in the bear trap.

[Josh40601]

cutting off the foot thats not in the bear trap.

What the hell does that mean?:icon_confused:

[85_Ranger4x4]

What the hell does that mean?:icon_confused:

When trapped, animals have been known to chew off limbs to get out of traps. His point was that cutting the F-150 wouldn't improve Fords situation.

[Josh40601]

When trapped, animals have been known to chew off limbs to get out of traps. His point was that cutting the F-150 wouldn't improve Fords situation.

Ahh, and now it all makes sense now. Thanks brother

[redstangs9308gt]

I tell you "history" I turned 16 in 99...My first ride ever was a 99 ranger. I rode that till it couldn't any more traded for a 04. I thought bigger was better so I went to a 05 f150 4.6,,,Too big little power, So I went and got a 06 f150 with a 5.4...Loved it but too big, and gas prices was way too high dumped it for a 08 stang. I love my stang wouldn't take anything for it. Well winters got bad so I talked dad into giving me his 120xxx mile ranger...I depend on my ranger to get me too places when weather is the worst. It hasn't let me down. I have dumped, here lately alot of money into it, but like anything else stuff needs replaced. I drive a truck for a living and I have noticed fewer and fewer rangers on the road. Then last year I was like,, were is the step side ranger? So I knew then ford was screwing around...I love the step sides. I know I am rambling here but I am really upset about this whole no ranger and especially no step side ranger......Ford I love you, but I am about to divorce your ass!

[Robert_1967]

I like my 88 ranger supercab, but if Ford is only going to make that ugly little thing for over seas, then thank god, IMHO that thing is butt ugly.

Also, I'm 6'4" and I can fit in a reg cab ranger, it's not the best ride, but in my supercab ranger I have all the room I need.

I'm sticking with my little 88 ranger, I have never liked the way the newer ones looked any way, for me they are too rounded, I perfer a ranger the same way I prefer my Kenworths, Flat Front Ends.

thank you
Robert

[86_cookiemonster]

When trapped, animals have been known to chew off limbs to get out of traps. His point was that cutting the F-150 wouldn't improve Fords situation.

Thank you. I love the ranger, I have always had one, literally, but in all honesty the f150 is a more capable truck for the majority of truck buyers. There is a reason why it is the number one selling vehicle in the world, and has been for what 32 years. There are more f150's sold in a year than there are australians. The ranger used to be a big seller untill Ford decided to ignore it and let it fall behind, they did a similar thing to the taurus.

But we can be happy about one thing. They killed off the taurus, and we thought that was the end of it, and look at how amazing the new taurus is. Hopefully they do the same thing to the Ranger.

[Jason]

The f-150 is the number one selling vehicle in the US for 23 or 24 years. The number one in the world honor belongs to a car I won't mention because some members here get diaper rash when I say the company name.

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

yeah toyota camry

hopefully the Ranger has the same luck Taurus had/has

[rockwerks]

The f-150 is the number one selling vehicle in the US for 23 or 24 years. The number one in the world honor belongs to a car I won't mention because some members here get diaper rash when I say the company name.

Ya mean Toyota the new domestic car manufacturer?

[86_cookiemonster]

Ya mean Toyota the new domestic car manufacturer?

Now I won't deny Toyota makes an excellent automobile. I have just never been sold on them. Its more of I do not like the styling, and I was raised on Ford. (okay I have a soft spot in my heart for Pontiac because of my grandfather, but... we won't go into that.)

[rockwerks]

Now I won't deny Toyota makes an excellent automobile. I have just never been sold on them. Its more of I do not like the styling, and I was raised on Ford. (okay I have a soft spot in my heart for Pontiac because of my grandfather, but... we won't go into that.)

I'm sorry there are cures for your illness, unfortunately it wont be another Ranger

[85_Ranger4x4]

I'm sorry there are cures for your illness, unfortunately it wont be another Ranger

So simply not liking the syling of a Toyota is an illness? Count me in then, IMO the styling of their trucks (especially the Tundra) seems to be based on a potato.

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

So simply not liking the syling of a Toyota is an illness? Count me in then, IMO the styling of their trucks (especially the Tundra) seems to be based on a potato.

actually they tend to copy the F-150

[85_Ranger4x4]

actually they tend to copy the F-150

They did on the previous model (it was plainly obvious) but the current one is pretty unique.

[rockwerks]

So simply not liking the syling of a Toyota is an illness? Count me in then, IMO the styling of their trucks (especially the Tundra) seems to be based on a potato.

NO it meant that you need to buy a different ford and yes the tundra very closely follows the design lines of ford..and of course all current HD truck are a copy of the Dodge's

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

actually the new tundra resembles the F-250/350

[The Luigiian]

I think the Tundra looks like a cross between an F-150 and a Dodge Ram, with a lot less F-150 and a lot more Ram than last time.

It's obvious that the Tacoma apes a lot of the Ranger's styling up front, with the two-horizontal-bar grille with the barn hinge vents on the sides. In side profile it tries to look streamlined or something. I guess.

I personally think the bulbous flares running along the side of the truck look like there's a rubber raft strapped to the sides. I guess Toyota wanted to make their Tacoma amphibious but stopped just short.

[jasonl]

I think a lot of guys are like me. We don't need a truck big enough to park a truck inside of. The sad thing is with an EPA estimated hwy of 19mpg for a 4x4 Ranger, it makes more sense to buy the bigger trucks for most. A small face lift and upgraded power trains, IE. 3.5 v-6 and Eco-boost 2.0 with a better tranny would put this truck in the 27-28mpg hwy range for a 4x4. It is only outsold by the Toyota. In case Ford hasn't heard, Toyota is about to go through a "few" tough years of legal trouble and now would be the time to "pounce" on the market. The extended cab needs, ironically, extended about 3 inches so the seats face forward and widen it about 2-3 inches and it would be perfect. Think Nissan Frontier size with unsurpassed 4x4 fuel economy. When gas goes back to $3 + per gallon it would dominate truck sales. Oh wait Ford thinks people with Rangers will buy Focus or Festiva's when they kill the Ranger. WTF? Give me a break.

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

yeah if u have a ranger just cuz u like driving a truck u get a focus, if u carry stuff u get another chit i dont even know the name

[r1ch999999]

As much as I hate to admit it the chance of me ever buying a new Ranger is pretty close to zero. I've had 3, and one ST which is really just a 4-door Ranger, and with kids the ST is what I need to own. If something happens and I have to buy another truck chances are I'm going with something old, not something new.

[jaymegriffiths]

I love my Ranger, but if its discontinued I'll just have to get a Frontier or Tacoma as my next newer truck. They aren't terrible trucks. If I get another used truck it will be a F250 with the 7.3L PSD, Ranger wasn't necessarily in my plans unless they roll out a diesel. If the European Ranger were brought to the states and the manual transmission is kept I might like it.

one of the managers at a ford dealership in my city said he went to a mtg and they told him rangers were not going to be dropped, due to the uproar when it was announced that rangers were being discontinued.
he said instead of getting rid of them ford is investigating producing diesel and crew cab options for 2013 and that the last year of gen 4 like current will b 2012.
he seemed to know what he was talkin about...

[jhammel85]

Check this out....Crew cab spotted!

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/23/spy-shots-next-gen-ford-ranger-global-quad-cab-spotted/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fautoblog+%28Auto blog%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Its so damn big. I wish they kept it small and efficient.

[masterbrenden]

good news i saw this
http://www.trucktrend.com/future/spied/163_news090514_2012_ford_ranger/index.html
i think it may be our new ranger witch is better than not having one at all
i also heard it my get the 3.5l edge motor witch is supposed to pull more hp and torque than the 4.0l we have now
and i also heard they may add a twin turbo option

[Jason]

Check this out....Crew cab spotted!

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/23/spy-shots-next-gen-ford-ranger-global-quad-cab-spotted/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+weblogsinc%2Fautoblog+%28Auto blog%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

Its so damn big. I wish they kept it small and efficient.

That looks like under all the crap, it's a Ridgeline.

[Madracingalley]

WHY WOULD FORD a company based on a man who if they hadn't pushed him, would still be making the model T COMPLETELY change a model that has worked so well for so long. It would COST TOO MUCH To retool everything. I say the smart thing Ford should do is to take the current models they have and just retool them a little bit each year to use new technologies without losing more money than needed. as long as you update the outside each year to keep the media happy. But when you change a model completely thats when you run the risk of having to RECALL

[nitrofan1]

good news i saw this
http://www.trucktrend.com/future/spied/163_news090514_2012_ford_ranger/index.html
i think it may be our new ranger witch is better than not having one at all
i also heard it my get the 3.5l edge motor witch is supposed to pull more hp and torque than the 4.0l we have now
and i also heard they may add a twin turbo option


That's the same truck as I started this thread with. It's the global unit. The difference is less vinyl coverings and the body is a hodge podge of different vehicles so you won't be able to see what a finished truck will look like.

Until we have official word from Ford there will be no new Ranger for North America. That's what this thread is about. All the spy photos the last year are of the Global Ranger for everyone else but US!

[Buckeyeman]

WHY WOULD FORD a company based on a man who if they hadn't pushed him, would still be making the model T COMPLETELY change a model that has worked so well for so long. It would COST TOO MUCH To retool everything. I say the smart thing Ford should do is to take the current models they have and just retool them a little bit each year to use new technologies without losing more money than needed. as long as you update the outside each year to keep the media happy. But when you change a model completely thats when you run the risk of having to RECALL

Because Alan Mulally isn't a car guy, he's a business man that came over from Boeing. He looks at numbers not what the consumer really wants. If he really cared what the Ranger loyalist wanted he would have given us the diesel engine option.

[Jay FX4]

Without Alan Mulally, the entire company would be up the creek.

[rangerman84]

yea im just gonna stick to my gen 1 and gen 2 but i wont ever drive a toyota my 84 went more places then these tacomas around here

[mari0]

I don't know why if they are developing a new Ranger in other countries, what is so hard about producing the same already designed product in the US? :dunno: I think the reason the number of new Rangers being sold isn't as high as the foreign midsized trucks is because, Ford hasn't sunk much time or effort into upgrading it. Lets face it from 93 til 99 they looked the same, nothing really changed except the digits in the model year. In 2000 they changed the grill a teenie bit, and since then have done nothing but change the interior a bit and the emblems! I think the Ranger would have potential if they re-designed it totally. It would be a bigger hit if they called it the F100, although personally I like the Ranger name better. I think if they redesigned it to look similar to the new F150s, but a little smaller. Keep the same engine options, except maybe add a diesel or turbo/supercharger option. Add the locker option. Make it in Reg, Extended, Crew Cab, and Crew Cab w/long bed model. Make a sleeker interior. If they just did what they have been doing and changed the few things I mentioned they would cream mid-sized truck sales for sure...you know how many older rangers I see out there...TONS! I see less and less newer ones...I know they are capable of making a bad ass affordable mid sized truck...just if they would invest a little time and money and in about a year or 2 we'd all be able to go purchase us a brand spanking new danger ranger (that would actually kick more ass than ever) :icon_hornsup:

I think truck manufacturers should start making "off road" additions come with 3-6 inch lift kits to be honest...this would increase sales too. If I was incharge of Fords actions I'd implement it for sure ! Sales out the ass! :icon_thumby:

[xentris02]

i honestly think that the body size we have now is perfect always has been.shure change the style of how it looks but the thing they need to redo the most is the powerterrian. they need to produce a more efficient motor and bring back the 3.0(mabey) and also produce a desiel(much needed and would boost sales for sure). what they dont relize is the ranger is the last standing "small" truck the s-10 is gone and the sonoma and all of the other ones are gone. that gives them an advantage.the really need to modernize the ranger but keep it the same size! and add allot of new options(turbo, supper charged, things like this too) like possiable crew cab like the s-10's. things of that nature. ford needs to relize is the ranger is gonna go no where and if it dose leave we wont be buying new cars or f-150's we will contuinue to buy the old rangers that we all so much love and mod to have some fun. ford that means no money for you.

p.s. i would love you even more if you produce a desiel and its just like the rangers we have now :headbang:

[TheOne]

my only gripe about the ranger and why i wouldnt buy one is the rear seat. thats why i loved my 04 dak...REAR BENCH SEAT...sure grown adults cant fit back there but say a kiddie comes along it has room for 3 CAR SEATS!

thats about my biggest gripe with the rangers

[Jason]

my only gripe about the ranger and why i wouldnt buy one is the rear seat. thats why i loved my 04 dak...REAR BENCH SEAT...sure grown adults cant fit back there but say a kiddie comes along it has room for 3 CAR SEATS!

thats about my biggest gripe with the rangers

Many people complain about the same thing and BEGGED for a crew cab. Until of course you point out something else that you feel is better for having it, then they say that a 6'6" 300 pound friend was comfortable on that lunch tray in the back.

[MountainMike]

Many people complain about the same thing and BEGGED for a crew cab. Until of course you point out something else that you feel is better for having it, then they say that a 6'6" 300 pound friend was comfortable on that lunch tray in the back.

Well technically the first gen Sport Trac was a crew cab Ranger with an F-150 flareside tailgate:D. Then it got all IRSy.

[glassman08]

I went into a local Ford dealership and asked some questions :icon_idea:

This is the LAST year for the Ranger - being replaced by F100 :icon_surprised:

Basically they've had much interest & requests for a larger ranger - similar to

Dodge Dakota 4 door pickup ... which I think would be good - as long as it

comes in 4 x 4 :headbang:


:icon_cheers:

glassman

[Ranger Sport Honduras]

welcome to TRS
well at least they should name it F-100 Ranger

[85_Ranger4x4]

welcome to TRS
well at least they should name it F-100 Ranger

Offroad package... replacment for the FX4LVII :icon_idea: :icon_thumby:

[MountainMike]

Except it's not going to be a Ranger. If they move the Ranger up to fight the Tacoma/Dakota etc and then put the new 3.7L V6 into the F-150, that would move the F-150 down into a lower point of entry. It seems like by making the F-100 instead of a new Ranger they are fighting both ends against the middle and it doesn't seem like a good idea in my eyes.

[Ranger97XL]

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/05/report-mahindra-to-set-u-s-pik-up-launch-date-in-next-few-week/

maybe this will make ford realize people want a small fuel efficient diesel

[85_Ranger4x4]

Except it's not going to be a Ranger. If they move the Ranger up to fight the Tacoma/Dakota etc and then put the new 3.7L V6 into the F-150, that would move the F-150 down into a lower point of entry. It seems like by making the F-100 instead of a new Ranger they are fighting both ends against the middle and it doesn't seem like a good idea in my eyes.

Even if they completly redesign the Ranger and still call it that, it wouldn't be a Ranger.

There have been enough sightings of small trucks in Detroit wearing blue ovals that I have faith that the small Ford truck isn't dead. If they want to outsell toyota they will need to make a truck that will compete evenly with it... simply sticking a V6 in a F-150 won't cut it.

[droptopfox]

well look at the ford 500 they tryed to replace the taurus 2 years later its called a taurus again as far as now i wouldnt buy anything but a ranger if i was looking at small pickups

[85_Ranger4x4]

well look at the ford 500 they tryed to replace the taurus 2 years later its called a taurus again as far as now i wouldnt buy anything but a ranger if i was looking at small pickups

Sales didn't dramatically pick up either until they redesigned the car, so was it the car or the name that people didn't like?

[jhammel85]

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/04/ford-to-continue-us-ranger-production-indefinitely.html

..Read the very last part. In red.

Bastards!!

"said Ford spokeswoman April Fursten"

haha...

[mazdamike30]

Its alot more likely they will power it up and call it something else

[Fargo Wolf]

As much as I hate to admit it the chance of me ever buying a new Ranger is pretty close to zero. I've had 3
Same here. IF the ranger is discontinued, I think my next truck will be a 1/2 tonne Chevy Silverado WT (Work Truck). At least I'd still have my 88, which simply needs a new engine, a good tune up and she'll be good to go. :)

That said, I did find this pic on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2010_Ford_Ranger_%28T6%29_4-door_utility,_prototype_%282010-10-16%29_04.jpg
I know it's European, but perhaps the Ranger will remain in production.

[tgallmey]

I want some modern stuff but really I want this It would have to be called the ranger classic series it would be offered as a 2nd gen truck but revamped with the modern gizmos and cab sizes a torque monster V6 turbo diesel mated to a 6 speed or that fancy lil 5.0 they got now and for the sport truck guys offered with the 3.5l ecoboost engine . . . . . then there would be the premium package called Ranger Revenge or Ranger Black Edition where you get a 6 inch lift A dana 60 front with lockers all round premium sound sitting on either 33s or 35s prly BFG KM2s and a licensed Ford back scratcher :icon_hornsup:

and next Ford would do the same with the B2 :yahoo:

[BigBlueRanger]

these are old pictures of what they thought the ranger would come to be
http://fastautopix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011-Ford-Ranger-3-4e3cbb58d249e.png

[IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/06/ford_ranger_opencab_opt.jpg[/IM

they wont bring over the European ranger that's for sure f-150 sales would go down and ford doesn't want their best selling truck to loose sales or its reputation. I believe the ranger will live on but completely redesigned to look more modern and with more junk to break

[Blake.]

i do not want a new truck. too much crap and too complicated to fix when it gets old and wore out. think about it. i doubt we will be seeing 2011 model trucks rolling around 30-40 years from now like the way you see 70's and 80's model trucks now. the new trucks are too complicated for they're own good. sure its nice for the first few years but what happens when it gets 10 years+ ? i like my old trucks. i hope to add an old toyota pickup or 4runner to my collection in the future.

i'll buy a new econobox for comfort, commuting, gas mileage. after a few years trade it for a new one. repeat.

the ranger will die, but there will be something to take it's place. plain and simple.
will it be ugly? most likely.
will i like it? probably not.

the thing is so called normal people "want" is a truck-like abomination with everything a motor home has on the inside, rides like a cloud, and gets decent gas mileage.

so take a motor home mash it together with a 1/2 ton fullsize 4 door pickup. do a voodoo head shrink on it and you have the body. put safety whateverthehellyoucancomeupwith in it. then mash together a town car's floaty cloud suspension with the hight of the full size pickups and suv's and slap it under your voodoo shrunk bus truck home thing, make a bigger prius motor to put in it, offer a towing package and call it done.

[joecool85]

so take a motor home mash it together with a 1/2 ton fullsize 4 door pickup. do a voodoo head shrink on it and you have the body. put safety whateverthehellyoucancomeupwith in it. then mash together a town car's floaty cloud suspension with the hight of the full size pickups and suv's and slap it under your voodoo shrunk bus truck home thing, make a bigger prius motor to put in it, offer a towing package and call it done.

I'll take 3!

[06RangerXLT]

im trying to understand whats wrong with what he just described...

[Blake.]

it's impossible. that's what's wrong with it. lol oh and dont forget it needs 4x4 or awd

[Funnyman141]

Personally I think that IF they do discontinue the ranger it'll be to completely retool the factories to upgrade it from bumper to tailgate, then slap on a different name, revamping fords compact truck line. or there are just saying that they were going to get rid of it to get us all butt sore, then read through the forums to get ideas of what we all really want :icon_twisted: (I can wish can't I? lol) if it is the latter I want Gwaii, BobbyWalter, and AllanD to be in there Helping them redesign the compact truckline, then those of us that use them like trucks (or toys) will be happy to have a no frills truck, thats reliable, dependable, and tough.

I have more ideas but I'll keep them to myself, for now :icon_idea:

[seanm]

There was an article in the paper a while back. Basically Ford was saying most Ranger drivers use them mainly to commute. So now that they have two compact cars, Ranger owners will switch to them :icon_confused: Or just buy an F-150.

I guess the rational for the compact car is that if you want a compact truck you will want a compact car? As for the F-150, if I wanted an F-150, I would buy one. But I really don't like the look of the new F-150s. They look more like SUVs than pickup trucks, at least IMHO.

A secondary reason for dropping the Ranger is they want to shut that factory down.

[joecool85]

Unfortunately, right now what they is true. Most people buying Rangers do use them just for commuting. HOWEVER, if they UPDATED the damn thing they'd sell a ton of them!

[exbass94]

Official last day of Ranger production is December 22, 2011. :sad:

[joecool85]

Official last day of Ranger production is December 22, 2011. :sad:

That is sad. I hope Ford does something. Maybe they'll do what they did with the Taurus and bring it back. But the thing is with that is the 500 came out to replace the Taurus, then they just renamed the 500 to Taurus - so that seems like a no-go since there is no Ranger replacement right now.

Maybe they'll bring the little Ford Bantam over here...

[jcd302]

They could just bring the global Ranger here. Good enough for the rest of the world, why not US?
They paid off the tooling years ago. The thing is pure profit now. They spent like $5.00 on R&D in the past 10 years. :-)

[joecool85]

They could just bring the global Ranger here. Good enough for the rest of the world, why not US?
They paid off the tooling years ago. The thing is pure profit now. They spent like $5.00 on R&D in the past 10 years. :-)

It's built in Thailand and if they import it here they will have to endure the 25% "chicken tax". This would bring the price of the new Ranger to that of the base F150, so they figure no one would buy it - which is probably true. My answer to that is: BUILD THE DAMN THING HERE! :icon_welder:

[FO44RD]

it's built in thailand and if they import it here they will have to endure the 25% "chicken tax". This would bring the price of the new ranger to that of the base f150, so they figure no one would buy it - which is probably true. My answer to that is: Build the damn thing here! :icon_welder:

yup!!!

[DFracing]

ford wont come out with anything close to the ranger again for a while,
it takes away from their precious f150 sales
god forbid the f150 should lose its "best selling" title to a ranger

[joecool85]

Wow, back from the dead thread, eh?

I hope Ford smartens up a brings over the new Ranger or offers us something similar. If not, my next truck will be a Jeep (assuming they finalize the pickup they are working on).

[jmg8550]

There was an article in the paper a while back. Basically Ford was saying most Ranger drivers use them mainly to commute. So now that they have two compact cars, Ranger owners will switch to them :icon_confused: Or just buy an F-150.

I guess the rational for the compact car is that if you want a compact truck you will want a compact car? As for the F-150, if I wanted an F-150, I would buy one. But I really don't like the look of the new F-150s. They look more like SUVs than pickup trucks, at least IMHO.

A secondary reason for dropping the Ranger is they want to shut that factory down.

That is the dumbest logic I have ever read. I drive a Ranger because I use it and I don't like little coffin (I mean compact) cars. If I wanted to drive a car, I would. I still will never buy a Toyota or Nissan. I think they are not as good as their hyped up to be. I was a mechanic for 7 years and they had just as many problems as the American trucks.