silverado zr2. what a joke

[mattpresley]

I just learned about Chevys so-called solution to the Raptor via another forum that I choose to use for my Silverado(Its a great forum but not TRS for sure). This ugly sack-o-crap will be the Raptors equal :icon_rofl:

http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31524 :icon_rofl:

[Downey]

its an ugly pos i think

[mattpresley]

Thank you!!! Chevy has always had ugly trucks and then 2003(mine) to 2005 were sexy. since 2006 they just keep getting uglier and less reliable. Is this truck capable? Absolutly! but its uglier than sin and probably will cost more than the Raptor

[Downey]

i have never liked them the only chevy truck is my best friends 1500 that is sas with 35s and a big ass 454 that makes a shit load of power

[WNY964x4]

i love how everyone on there says it beats the raptor hands down , those people are off their rocker

[mattpresley]

i love how everyone on there says it beats the raptor hands down , those people are off their rocker

hmm stand by. Im gonna give them my opinion(no thread war, im already a part of the forum and its a great one)

[mattpresley]

There we go. now at least one member showed support for the raptor :D

[mini274]

Guaranteed that thing doesnt have 12 inches of travel in the front or 14 in the rear like the raptor it probably rides like a brick box like all the chevy trucks do... it gets the 5.4 stock with 320 hp but everybody knows its nothin to make 500 plus hp out of them.. the 6.2 with 500 hp (estimated) hell slap a supercharger on any one of the ford motors and you got somethin chevy will never have... another fact supercharged cobra 550 to the wheels while the z06 505 to the crank musle mustang has tested chevy on all their so called hp ratings and none are to the wheels its all at the crank so the zr2 i give 2 thumbs down 4 times plus 2 cause it wont do anything but suck

[mattpresley]

Guaranteed that thing doesnt have 12 inches of travel in the front or 14 in the rear like the raptor it probably rides like a brick box like all the chevy trucks do... it gets the 5.4 stock with 320 hp but everybody knows its nothin to make 500 plus hp out of them.. the 6.2 with 500 hp (estimated) hell slap a supercharger on any one of the ford motors and you got somethin chevy will never have... another fact supercharged cobra 550 to the wheels while the z06 505 to the crank musle mustang has tested chevy on all their so called hp ratings and none are to the wheels its all at the crank so the zr2 i give 2 thumbs down 4 times plus 2 cause it wont do anything but suck

can I borrow this?

[Downey]

haha there is a big chat of bullshit about this on rf too

[mini274]

sure man go ahead all the info is available on the net on all the specs

[mattpresley]

sure man go ahead all the info is available on the net on all the specs

and you have legally been stolen from:D thanks buddy

[zukirider21]

:icon_rofl::icon_rofl::icon_rofl::icon_rofl:

HAHAHA 20" wheels and shocks that are probably available in the wal mart auto section...

wow that things gonna KILL in the desert lmao!

[mini274]

your welcome chevy just pisses me off when they "try" to be like ford when they just need to let toyota keep building their motors and shut the heck up or go out of business already i mean seriously their cheap and they use the same body for everything but just put a different name on it ford does too dont get me wrong but chevy does it on all cars /trucks...

they used carbon fiber when fiberglass is lighter and less expensive i mean come on next thing you know their gonna come out with the "new z71 all carbon fiber body lighter with a 5.7 that gets an amazing 11 miles on the highway and a remarkable 8 in the city with the optional 24" wheels"

[mini274]

and you have legally been stolen from:D thanks buddy

can i ask where your puttin it and if your posting it on another site let me know wat bs they come up with to back their amazing "ZR2 that rides rougher than brick on wheels" :icon_rofl::icon_rofl:

[mattpresley]

the website from post 1 is where I posted it. I was already a member

[mini274]

ok thats cool just let me know wat happens

[mattpresley]

heres coming from a real silverado guy

"Honestly I think it is a dud, I bet the price tag will be higher than a Denali truck. I would bet this truck will list starting at $60,000, and that's conservative on my part. It makes me laugh how many people on here want one, but every week some one wants to know how to get better MPG's out of a gas hog. Trucks are trucks dammit, if you want gas mileage buy a car. Sorry for the rant but it's true, you would be lucky if that truck gets 10mpg going down hill."

[mini274]

smart man he knows how it goes chevy sucks:icon_rofl: and ford rules the gas m:headbang:ilage

[UrbanRedneckKid]

Quite honestly whoever thinks Chevy's ride like bricks, hasn't been in a 03+ one.
Not to defend Chevys, cause I really dislike them, but they really do ride pretty good. They're also good for nothing, squat with the slightest load and ride on the bumpstops with a plow on the front. You know things trucks are meant to do. I mean as they sit stock, there's only 1.5" at most before the bumpstop.

That being said, they say all this truck has for suspension upgrades is a 4" lift...
A soft riding, weak suspension relocated with chinsy brackets. Or possibly just different spindles and torsion bars cranked up.

The Raptor actually has a desert tested and tuned suspension under it. One that's had the crap beat out of it then improved, and tested some more until perfect.

That ZR2 is nothing more that the typical Chevy owner's truck. Gobs of horsepower because he is "small", Poor excuse for a "big" suspension because he is "small", Impressive wheels and body to improve self image because he is "small".
Just a bunch of prettiness and big numbers to make up for something that actually "performs".

[exbass94]

They're also good for nothing, squat with the slightest load and ride on the bumpstops with a plow on the front. You know things trucks are meant to do. I mean as they sit stock, there's only 1.5" at most before the bumpstop.


A guy I used to work with bought an 05 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 2wd. The front suspension literally sits ON the bumpstops all the time, even with an empty bed and on level ground. :icon_rofl:

[hilbile]

Ya. I will definatly pass on that chevy last minute try to get attention getter. I would love a raptor for sure. But production will proabably be to limited for me to ever get one. Guess Ill try for the new Taurus SHO.

[BlackBII]

What the hell is with GM and their gawd awfully stupid wheel wells? Fix that shit. Ugh. Sooooo F'ing ugly. Not to mention you have to lift it 6in to barely clear 35's.

[akalogan]

You folks shouldn't pick on chevy trucks so much... They are kind of like a dog that has been beat too often. That is why my theory is that GM/Chevys' sit so low

[Beast4x4]

That is the ugliest damn thing i have ever seen. GM just doesn't get it.

[souldoubt88]

Meh, It's just a concept truck.

[mini274]

if you go on the website in post one and start readin most of the chevy guys are puttin this ZR2 down who puts carbon fiber on an off road vehicle no-one you use some cheap fiberglass so its not expensive when u wreck cause if your serious about wheelin you will wreck if you all havent noticed this is one subject i get pretty pissed over chevy tryin to keep up with ford hell chevy cant keep up with honda trucks or even Mitsubishi they should just call it quits like they were goin to do in the beginning instead of wasting my tax dollars (cause the goverment was so gracious to make that decision) making trucks that has a 6' by 10' grill cause they think it looks good... WELL IT DOESNT

[92ranger2wd]

I've disliked any new trucks(Chev or Ford) for many years now. This truck, while an interesting concept, seems overdone. Carbon fiber rocker panels...really?
On a side note, I saw a Raptor out at a local off road park. While it was fairly capable off road in the easy stuff, I was rather disappointed with the lack of front ground clearance. For an IFS "off road" truck with 35's, I was expecting a lot more.

[92ranger2wd]

You folks shouldn't pick on chevy trucks so much... They are kind of like a dog that has been beat too often. That is why my theory is that GM/Chevys' sit so low

Chev's aren't so overzealous with their use of factory lift blocks, like Ford and Dodge. That's my theory, but to each their own:icon_thumby:

[Frank The Tank]

My boss's Chevy 4x4 3500 05 dually is tough as nails. I put a cattle trailer on it....... drove it 65 miles yesterday and it pulled great, and rode well, no excessive squat. but it's not a good offroader, and I find the body to be uggly as sin.

My dodge dually would have pulled it better (extremely modded engine and trans) and it wouldn't have squatted at all........... and it would have been rough enough to beat you half to death on the roads I was taking.

My dads F-250 would have rode just as rough and would have strained the engine like hell up the hills.

Granted the Z-R2 is gay all the comments those posters made were gay, guess what.......... if you get down to it the Raptor is just as uggly with it's flashy paint scheme and crappy new style body, and just as useless.

All this talk about serious off road, and racing, and hardcore wheeling............ you really gonna drop 50k on a truck and then join the tough truck association? If you were "SERIOUS" off-roader....... you'd build one your own damn-self. not rely on a factory thats going broke right now with a bunch of po'd employees building it for you, ford dodge or chevy.

Frank

[Will]

Well, the Honda Ridgeline beat the Raptor so there's no traction there.

I'm waiting for my 22 year-old Chevy to bite the dust--for the shit 6.2 to fall out on the ground, for the SLA suspension to wrap itself up into a jumble of twisted pot-metal. But since it's older than most of the fags that bash it (I'm not Larry Johnson so I can say fags) I won't worry about it.

Seriously, the Chevy is a Made In USA thing and you should support it. Those are being built by Americans too--unless they are being built in Mexica by Americans, North, one each. Know what I mean? Your loyalty to a brand is stronger than anything else in your life. That's a serious problem. The Ford vs GM thing is a conspiracy crafted by Asians to strike a division between our national unity and allow the Nissan and Datsun pickups to enter the market. Your fathers fell victim to it, sometimes bought a Japanese pickup, and we have been a lost nation ever since. And now, 35 years later, you guys are so brainwashed tha you still bitch about GMs while the enemy has roots deeper than the average lilac in the yard of your modular home. It's disgusting. Your brother ZR2 wants your blessing and you spit in his face.

I spurn you.

[mini274]

http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac302/mini274/truck/gasl.jpg

[zukirider21]

x2!

who cares we can make fun of whatever the **** we want.

[TheTopher]

I'm no happier than anybody else about the asian vehicles in this country, I'm even more unhappy that they're BETTER than most of the vehicles made in this country. My company vehicle is an 07 Silverado and it has given me NOTHING but problems.

it's overheated twice, the fan control relay almost caught fire (filled the cab with smoke) the tech said it was a "common problem" Good to know their trucks commonly catch fire.
The coolant temp sensor went bad
One morning it took about fifteen minutes to get started
and it's beginning to give me transmission problems, about twice a month I'll put it in gear but it'll stay in park.

The truck is only two years old!

I am NEVER going to buy one of their vehicles out of my own pocket.

These are problems I never had with my honda, or my ford for that matter. I think people supporting these crap boxes GM is making simply because they're made here is freaking ridiculous. Ford is at least getting their act together and building vehicles that are high quality in their own right, even when compared to the Asian competition. Unlike GM who built crappy vehicles and then needed a bailout after nobody bought them.

Bottom line:
Gm may be built here but they're quality in my opinion is ranked just above Kia.

[mattpresley]

Well, the Honda Ridgeline beat the Raptor so there's no traction there.


The fagmobile beat the Raptor? Proof?

[mini274]

yea but toyota and nissan are built in the U.S. i live 5 min from a yota plant in indiana so their still givin americans jobs... and their pretty good quality... also 3 miles down from the yota plant theirs a sweet ass ford plant

[zukirider21]

The fagmobile beat the Raptor? Proof?

the fagmobile DID NOT beat the raptor, in any way.

it placed higher than the raptor in an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CLASS! APPLES AND ORANGES!!!

[fordmandan87]

can anybody tell the guys on the gm site that its not a matter of how much power you have but how much (power) will actually be transferred to the ground. and furthermore the raptor suspension design seems to have a better capability to keep the wheels planted on the ground ie better performance

[mattpresley]

can anybody tell the guys on the gm site that its not a matter of how much power you have but how much (power) will actually be transferred to the ground. and furthermore the raptor suspension design seems to have a better capability to keep the wheels planted on the ground ie better performance

Yep Message has been delivered to that board

[willied]

Although the Raptor looks slightly too large in the front it looks amazing compared to that mall crawler of a Silverado, and the black Raptor looks sick quite honestly, I'm just a little sick of the orange one, though. But the new Silverados are way too square in all the wrong places.

[aridranger03]

I think that Chevy cannot compete with Ford since the Raptor was engineered and developed over quite a period of time. I think Chevy panicked and just through a lift kit and 20s on their truck. It has nowhere near the suspension capabilities of the Raptor. I'd sure like to see how that carbon fiber holds up on an off road truck. Also more hp doesn't always make something better since alot has to do with the tranmission, gearing, tires, etc. Chevy always has to let everyone know that they produce more hp, but their useless ads mean nothing to me.

[clamdigger]

How does the Power Wagon compare to the Raptor in off Road ability?

[WhatYouMeanByRecall?]

I like the look of it... but it still has nothing on the Raptor!

[zukirider21]

How does the Power Wagon compare to the Raptor in off Road ability?

power wagon? might as well compare that pussy shit to a skateboard, not the raptor. lmao

[hilbile]

How does the Power Wagon compare to the Raptor in off Road ability?

pickuptrucks.com did a comparison test of the raptor and Power wagon.. since its an apples to oranges comparo, you can read and decide. Honestly with the raptor being as badazz as it is I would rather take a power wagon. 3/4 ton AND straight axles front and rear. If ford did a 250 raptor variant kind of with a straight axle and diesel well sign me up!

[zukirider21]

solid axles would be a valid reason to choose the pussy wagon over the raptor, if the raptor didnt have a shitton of travel.

i guarantee the ford ifs outperforms the dodge soild axle setup offroad.

[85rx7_93ranger]

personally i think ALL 2007 and newer trucks are ugly as sin ford, chevy, dodge, everything, but this pos takes the cake for sure, shit if i had the money id buy one of these ugly ass trucks and rap it around a the first pole i see and then happly drive away in my pos ford away:)

[idriveafordranger94]

I saw the F-150 Raptor this past March at the Cleveland Auto show. It is really cool. Bigger in person too!

[gjm4l]

If I wanted to be able to drive around daily and hit fun stuff every weekend, I'd totally take the raptor and that's exactly what I'd want for me and for a few grand more than an FX4 how could I not if I wanted a new truck. If I had a big trailer to haul and still wanted a sweet fullsize offroader I'd without question take a Powerwagon especially if it really does have a cummins option now. That new chevy is more like a mall crawler. Prolly $$55-$60000 nice to look at but not that really amazingly capable. Something to look at if I liked Chevy's and preferred my truck always clean and a head turner in the parking lot but didn't expect much more than a lifted stocker in offroad capabilities. I'd rather spend my money on offroadability than on special paint, big wheels, and horsepower bragging rights. Besides it's not even production yet they just had to have something to hype to compete with Mopar's 2 true offroaders(Rubicon and Powerwagon) and now Ford's sweet new SVT whoop monster(Raptor if you didn't know:icon_surprised:) This says nothing of Toyota working on it's offroad program. Come on a 4runner Trail that 'yota tested out stock(just with the addition of 32" MT's)on the Rubicon(it dominated for a stocker) to see how it would hold up and make it better(it was in Four Wheeler magazine) that's pretty gnarly in my opinion. I can't think of any others but that mean's Chevy's the only member of the big four(yes I said it, Toyota's in the big guy hunt now, Hell nissan's not too far back) that doesn't have an awesome offroader. I'd be panicked as well:shok:) May be the ZR2 will be ok when they hit production but too bad I hate the new body syle chevy's. I think the raptor(all new F-series for that matter) is ulgy but at least it'll go. Oh but I am happy to see that the ZR2 package may be revived as a fullsize animal. I love the old S-10 and Blazer ZR2's they looked mean and did pretty well stock even if you couldn't hardly get a lift for 'em.

That's a long 2 cents but there it is.