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AlwysBusted96

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Hope I don't get a verbal beat down for this. A long while back being the moron that I am I dinged a curb doing cookies in a parking lot with 6" of snow on the ground. Now my truck pulls the the right and so on a so forth. Took it to an alignment shop and they said "Something is bent but we can't find it.", after 3 guys looked at it. My question is does the tie rod have a bend in it from the factory just a few inches away from where the shorter link connects to it in the middle? Hope that made sense. I'm almost certain that the answer is no. I did a search for photos and such but came up with nothing, mostly TRE. Thanks.
 
The stock passengerside tierod (draglink) does have a bend in it to the right of where the driverside tierod attaches.

A pull to the right generally means the caster is out, which could be from a bent radius arm. Has he checked your measurements so as to know where to start looking for anything bent?
 
4x4junkie said:
The stock passengerside tierod (draglink) does have a bend in it to the right of where the driverside tierod attaches.

A pull to the right generally means the caster is out, which could be from a bent radius arm. Has he checked your measurements so as to know where to start looking for anything bent?
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Thanks about the bend. Dunno what you mean about checking my measurements... I assume that you mean check to see if its with in spec. In that case yes he did he put it on the alignment rack and had two other guys look at it and nothing. I see that you are in southern cal.... so you might know the name of the shop that I took it too. It was Les Schwab. They told me to take it to a collision shop. So I dunno.
 
Yes, checking of the caster, camber and toe specifications.

There's no Les Schwabs right around me (that I know of), but I am familiar with the chain (they are in Grants Pass Or. and I think most of central and northern Cal.). I wouldn't count on them always knowing what's up if something is wrong.

Have you looked under there yourself at all? I'd be looking at the radius arm, the radius arm frame bracket (crossmember), and the axle beam & axle pivot bracket. I don't see tierods being a likely cause for it to pull.

And yes, the rear axle shifted out of place would cause it too, although this would cause the truck to crabwalk which would be obvious when viewed from behind.
 
4x4junkie said:
Yes, checking of the caster, camber and toe specifications.

There's no Les Schwabs right around me (that I know of), but I am familiar with the chain (they are in Grants Pass Or. and I think most of central and northern Cal.). I wouldn't count on them always knowing what's up if something is wrong.

Have you looked under there yourself at all? I'd be looking at the radius arm, the radius arm frame bracket (crossmember), and the axle beam & axle pivot bracket. I don't see tierods being a likely cause for it to pull.

And yes, the rear axle shifted out of place would cause it too, although this would cause the truck to crabwalk which would be obvious when viewed from behind.
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Yeah I have looked all over under the truck, didn't see anything out of the ordinary but then again it would have to be obvious. If it was a slight bend in a rad arm dunno if I would see it. My initial thought after it first happened was the axle pivot bracket. But I did not see and bends or cracks in the brackets.

I don't think its the rear axle, because the steering wheel is turned about an 1/8 of a turn to the left to get the vehicle to track straight. If I put the steering wheel straight where it was before impact, the driver tire is pointed dead ahead and the pass is pointed toe out.

If I cant figure it out in the next few weeks I think I'll just eat it and take it to a collision shop. :dunno::sad:
 
Is the truck actually "pulling" (meaning the truck leaves the lane if you let go of the wheel, you have to constantly tug on the wheel to keep it going straight)?
Or is it only that the steering wheel is off-center? If it's the latter, that would likely be tierods (in which case you'd just need a toe alignment).
 
It leaves the lane in a big hurry. It requires constant input to keep it tracking in a straight line.
 
Yeah, then you got something bent for sure under there that's affecting your caster

I'd be looking hard at what I mentioned a couple posts up.
 
Will do, plan on taking a real long hard look at it on thursday.
 
If the pass side tire is pointing outwards while the driverside tire is trying to track straight it would certainly pull to the right. The tires are working against one another. I say you need an alignment.

I was hit in my B2 and I had issues with it being all over the road with new parts... I ended up needing a steering box.
 
After several hours of head scratching, I've come the the conclusion that it might be the pivot bracket for the pass side beam. Thats about all I got. Monday I'm going to see if I cant get a shop to look at it and say what the problem might be. Otherwise I'm still stumped.
 
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