Update on my 88 Ranger SAS

[DieselSmoke]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/2007-08-11016.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/2007-08-11010.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/2007-08-11013.jpg


this is what i started with for those you never saw my last posts before the site went down
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/03Small.jpg

[Mutant Pony]

Lookin' good. Remind us, what are the plans for the truck?

[DieselSmoke]

working on:

working getting my 302 ready to drop in it (got AA motor mounts, summit sump pan, edelbrock intake/carb, elect ign, ect.)
38-42 inch tires later (36x14.5 on right now)
just sent front knuckle in for milling for high steer
chevy 63s in rear soon, different hangers and shackles
5 speed conversion workin on it (was auto)
tube front/rear bumpers im workin on and a partial exo cage
steel dash with autometer gauges (gutted interior)
got mustang seats
cut fenders
either flat black or camo paint
lockers, 5.13s or 5.38s not sure yet
fuel cell in bed with battery
fox air shocks or coilovers in front later, i dont like my leafs
take a foot or so off the bed


i already have done:

dana 44 3/4 ton front 8 lug
14 bolt FF 8 lug rear, both 4.10s
chevy 6" front springs, homemade SAS stuff (shackles, hangers, ect.)
rear stock springs i rebent for more arc, didnt help much. home made 4 inch blocks, diy4x.com plates (nice). custom u-bolts from olympic 4x4
36x14.5x16.5 sucky tires
some frame work, will box the whole thing later
lots of other crap done

i dont feel like reposting all the pics

[james99]

that truck has came a long way from were it was before

[PARKINGLOT]

looks like it came a long way! what kind if tires you plan on running?

[Toreadorranger]

get rid of the stack and get new tires and you would be set.

[james99]

keep the stack:icon_cheers:

[95offroadx]

yea id keep the stack to, single stacks kick ass

[chico4554]

the stack looks good on your truck!

[DieselSmoke]

haha cool i guess the stack is a big deal, i just had it sittin there i might not even use it... i acually have 2 5" stacks tho, hey mabey i should run dual stacks instead of one? lol, i was saving it for my cummins but im going to get 7" stacks instead so i was thinkin of puttin those on the ranger.


Update on truck:
spent 50 bucks on sand paper, primer, and flat black rattle cans to paint the ugly thing
cut the fenders
workin on the pass knuckle for highsteer

[DieselSmoke]

get rid of the stack and get new tires and you would be set.


...and those are roller tires, those trxus tires suck im thinkin of some boggers sence its goin for mostly mud, 39.5 or some 42s probibly, those are 36s

[Toreadorranger]

the stack isnt a good idea on any ranger motor.....

[JohnnyU]

the stack isnt a good idea on any ranger motor.....
Actually, it makes a decent amount of sense from a "damage" and "water-crossing" standpoint. However, I agree, stacks have little business being on gasoline-powered rigs.

[Toreadorranger]

Actually, it makes a decent amount of sense from a "damage" and "water-crossing" standpoint. However, I agree, stacks have little business being on gasoline-powered rigs.

is the same thing as doing a 5" exhaust. I wheeled with a kid who had dual 3" stacks with flappers. needless to say he had to prop the flappers open because the engine had so little exhaust velocity it couldnt open them.

[DieselSmoke]

im only goin to use 2 1/2 exhaust for my 302 it would go up into the single stack if i even use it which i doubt cuz im going to put a fuel cell and battery back there, but it looks cool i think

[JohnnyU]

is the same thing as doing a 5" exhaust.
Depends on the Engine. 5" exhaust is about right for a 500hp Diesel. Way overkill for most gasoline engines, but it depends on the application.

[Toreadorranger]

Depends on the Engine. 5" exhaust is about right for a 500hp Diesel. Way overkill for most gasoline engines, but it depends on the application.

except we arent talking about a 500hp diesel...:D

[JohnnyU]

except we arent talking about a 500hp diesel...:D

It's just a fancy exhaust tip. It's up to him to do what he wants. If he wants to run vertical exhaust ending with a large stack, then he has a right to do so. Doing so does not make his truck less capable or turn it into being shoddily built. It's really no different than painting a tube chassis or rollcage bright green or pink.
:icon_twisted:

[samsonitesamsonite]

It's just a fancy exhaust tip. It's up to him to do what he wants. If he wants to run vertical exhaust ending with a large stack, then he has a right to do so. Doing so does not make his truck less capable or turn it into being shoddily built. It's really no different than painting a tube chassis or rollcage bright green or pink.
:icon_twisted:

plus all that ads about 20 HP :icon_welder::icon_hornsup:

[chico4554]

especially the high temp paint. I almost blew up my 7.5 after painting it. the wheelie was worth it though.

[DieselSmoke]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P9190005.jpg


cut fenders
flat black rattle can paint

[samsonitesamsonite]

looking good

[DieselSmoke]

pic of truck a couple days ago
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/PA040052.jpg


now, decided it would be easyer to just take the body off to do the 302/zf 5 speed conversion

[THE WHITE RHINO]

that thing is too tall but looks cool otherwise

[QuakerShaker4242]

that thing is too tall but looks cool otherwise



i dont believe in those words

[THE WHITE RHINO]

then you must live in the south

[DieselSmoke]

that pic of it together is without motor/tranny and all other metal stuff. it sits a bit lower with it all in... and i want to put a d60 and 42s on it eventually so i need a lil more lift then average

[madmax401]

NICE TRUCK, i'm doing the same thing to my 88 supercab . did you buy the leaf spring mounts as a kit somewhere ,or did you fab everything? i'm putting in a d44 from a 68 f250 as soon as i go through the rear and inspect and replace everything while its on the ground. any extra info or links would be helpful.

[DieselSmoke]

NICE TRUCK, i'm doing the same thing to my 88 supercab . did you buy the leaf spring mounts as a kit somewhere ,or did you fab everything? i'm putting in a d44 from a 68 f250 as soon as i go through the rear and inspect and replace everything while its on the ground. any extra info or links would be helpful.


i made almost everything

heres some pics and links for you...

http://www.ballisticfabrication.com/
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/
http://www.polyperformance.com/


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/55.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/49Small.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/35.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/44Small.jpg

i am probibly going to redo my shackle hangers i dont like my design i can just see it braking under all the weight... it might not, but i thought of a better idea (thats if i dont convert back to coils)

UPDATE on my ranger for those who care,
installed
302
zf-5-speed
hays super brute clutch kit
boxed frame from front end to end of cab so far

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/1.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/PB020028.jpg

[BigIsland]

looks great!, good fab work!

[madmax401]

Thanx for the links and pix. i haven't found any ranger sas kits yet,only toyota. looks like i have to measure my frame rails and compare the width to toyota. i want this soo bad! and after seeing your truck- i know its possible, well i mean .....streetable....unlike progectnightmares with the rockwells,lol. his truck is insanely killer cool .

[DieselSmoke]

i mean .....streetable....unlike progectnightmares with the rockwells.


acually i plan to use rockwells after i get it going again :)

[THE WHITE RHINO]

looks like my truck....from a few years back

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e258/mikes1988pos/Image054.jpg

[littleredrangerhood]

well i mean .....streetable....unlike progectnightmares with the rockwells,lol. his truck is insanely killer cool .

Did he actually get those under his truck yet? I knew he was thinking about it but wasn't sure if he went ahead with it.

[madmax401]

he had some pix of his rockwell progect up before TRS changed everything on us. i dont know how far he has gotten with it yet. im sure he'll post pix when he's done. i can hardly wait.

[madmax401]

How much lift springs did you put up front ? how big are your tires ? i just sent a picture of your truck to the ruff stuff guy so he can put a kit together for me. well , i mean for us guys here. after your motor and trans get in there .....whatta you thing your headlight height will be ? just trying not to be higher than pensylvania's lift laws. i might have to use a smaller spring.

[DieselSmoke]

i used superlift chevy 6" springs... they are a little stiffer then i wanted but i got them for 50 bucks from a friend, those are 36x14.5 inch tires on it now im going to run around a 40 inch tho when im done. i would use some 44044 or the RS44044 if you want a lil smaller. not sure on the headlight highth

what kinda kit are they making? i would just make it youself, steel was only like 50 bucks for everything to make it

[madmax401]

he was telling me that i could use the toyota cross leaf spring stuff and fj40 stuff. i spent 20 minutes on the phone with him today and he was able to determine the amount of frame drop from the 2 measurements he told me to take. the base of the front frame and behind the wheel . both measurements were from the frame to the ground. he's not charging any extra to itemize everything i need to complete my progect based on the experience that he's had with other ranger owners. and 10% off all parts purchased = not too shabby.

[DieselSmoke]

sounds good man, post some pics of your parts when you get them

[madmax401]

You got it . it might be a little while because ,"the bucket i keep my money in has a hole in it" ,lol.

[-ROKTOY-]

Cool build!

Got anymore pictures?

[AgPete139]

Looks good, keep the pics coming!

[DieselSmoke]

thanks,
still workin on building crossmembers... in the process of building that Got trikes tube bender... plans look awsome and im gathering supplies for it will post pics on that as i start aswell


Cool build!

Got anymore pictures?



what you want pics of? i got hella but my computer is slow so i only upload what i have to

[-ROKTOY-]

what you want pics of? i got hella but my computer is slow so i only upload what i have to

Could I get some pictures of the Front Crossmember, and the Front Shackles. (Basically the front buildup of the truck)

[DieselSmoke]

here ya go

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/08Small.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/16Small.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/22Small.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/31.jpg

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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/35.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/49Small.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/55.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/56.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/37Small.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/40Small.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/44Small.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/PB270006.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/PA040052.jpg



it looks a lil better now (its fully painted, frame and body)

it still needs to be gusseted all over the front hanger

i think i made it all for around
100 bucks in metal for front hanger, shackle hangers and shackles
400 axle + 75 machining on knuckle and 100 for ball joints
60 bucks for springs

[-ROKTOY-]

Thanks man!
I appreciate it...

[DieselSmoke]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1040002.jpg

update, zf 5-speed tranny, np205, twin shifters from JBfab, 302, workin on crossmembers

also just got Summit fuel cell, lines, holley elec pump, reg, MSD 6AL box, and more Ballistic stuff for crossmembers

[metalmacguyver]

damn that thing looks clean. to bad it will never look that good again.

[brendank69]

We think alike. That's the same swap that's in the future for me. What I'm really interested in is how the ZF and 205 fit with the cab on.



I don't care what anyone says about the stack. That is badass. The only thing that could make it better is a pair.

[wahlstrom1]

I don't care what anyone says about the stack. That is badass. The only thing that could make it better is a pair.

Sweet build up ya got there. :icon_hornsup:

Brendan, your just gonna have to wait til I do the cummins swap for dual stacks, unless somone beats me to it.....:thefinger:

-andrew

[brendank69]

Sweet build up ya got there. :icon_hornsup:

Brendan, your just gonna have to wait til I do the cummins swap for dual stacks, unless somone beats me to it.....:thefinger:

-andrew

I've seen duals done on a sweet 460 (?) powered ranger. I'm pretty sure it was orange or red.

I've looked into stacks, and those buggers are expensive. If a guy could find a set cheap from a semi wrecker or something, that would be the way to go.

[DieselSmoke]

yea im not sure if im using the stack yet, i got it free from work.

im going to have to cut the whole center out of my floor to fit the zf and 205 cuz i raised them up so underneeth the frame would be all flat for a good skidplate to protect all that expensive stuff.

the center section of my floor im going to make removable to i can get to my tranny and case and all the lines im running under it easy

[wahlstrom1]

Well, that is one kickass build ya got there, I'd love to swap all my narrow SAS stuff under a first gen when I swap to FW's later on. I've got a few sets of stacks at work I can use, so they're cheap to me, lol.

-andrew

[WTCBST]

the build is lookin badass keep us updated...that is the way it's supposed to be lifted and a badass drivetrain to match you just made my day.

[Hahnsb2]

Use the stack except put it on the passenger side, single turnouts look badass.

[DieselSmoke]

rear side of crossmember done, .188 wall 1.5x1.5 square tube. ballistic fab poly ends/sleeves

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1110043.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1120058.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1120064.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1120062.jpg

what do you think of that design? its kinda hard to tell but as i build it you will see

[wahlstrom1]

what do you think of that design?

What do I think...? I think your makin the rest of us look bad! Once again, awesome work your doin there :icon_thumby:

-andrew

[DieselSmoke]

the NP205 Pto cover mount out of .25 plate and 45* mounts .375 thick

i have a solidworks file of it if anyone needs it (or you could just trace over the stock plate i just felt like making it up :D )

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/NP205PTOPlate.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1160040.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1160050.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1170070.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P11700702.jpg

[zainyD]]

Looks like a VERY strong design.

Will you be required to run a body lift for clearance?

[DieselSmoke]

mabey, i didnt really want to... i was planning on chopping up the floor and running tube across the sides to mount seets and new floor but i may have to do a slight lift

[DieselSmoke]

almost done with it, just got to make tranny mount and drop side of case mount, and drill 1 hole


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1190039.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1190043.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1190049.jpg

[danger88ranger]

Looks really good

[DieselSmoke]

thanks.

Its done now

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1300043.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1300046.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1300049.jpg


now to get the cab on, and start chopping that floor away, i may have to do a little body lift to. ... i made sure everthing was flush or above the bottom of the frame rails so i can make a big easy full skid plate to protect all that stuff thats why its a little high

also just got 14 bolt truss, yoke guard, disc brake conversion so i will be installing that soon

[DieselSmoke]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2010047.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2020062.jpg

with 3" body lift, im going to try and make it a 2" body lift but im going to have to do more cutting with that zf

[WTCBST]

every time i look at the updates on this build it makes my day

[samsonitesamsonite]

wow, you do great work.

[DieselSmoke]

THANKS!


im now workin on my 14 bolt

Disc brakes brackets - DIY4X
Truss - Balistic Fab
Guardsman yoke gaurd - DIY4X
Discs/calipers and such - autozone

Still need 5.38 gears and spool
heavy duty diff cover


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2090068.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2040046.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2070058.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2090075.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P20900752.jpg
...to run a center track bar

[97BlackBetty]

Let me just say that i am both jelous and amazed by the work you do. Looks better everytime i visit your thread.

[DieselSmoke]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2190067.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2190070.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P2190071.jpg


about done, diff cover next then gears
i have part numbers for everything if anyone wants them so they dont have to spend hours trying to figure it all out. i used dually studs thats why they stick out so far

[zainyD]]

That 14bolt's lookin' good.

[DieselSmoke]

so i just put my stock steering box in and my oil relocator fittings hit the box so i had to take them out... so does anyone know where i can order L shape fittings, or mabey a different steering box is what i was thinking... i might have to sometime anyways when i swap to 4 link front and move my axle forward.

heres a pic so you can see what im talking about
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/oilrel.jpg

[Mutant Pony]

There is a different oil filter adapter that has the ports coming out the side of it.

[DieselSmoke]

thanks, i should have known that :beer:

[COPPERHEAD85]

great fab work!

[coolboarder1231]

man that thing is going to scare so many wranglers out of the woods

[OhShietitzMike]

lookin good . . . . keep it up

[DieselSmoke]

the small stuff takes for ever, progress is slow :temper: but its almost ready to start


heres some updates

diff cover .5 thick! from great lake offroad
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P3200015.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P3200027.jpg

new switch pannel, from 12voltguy.com
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P3170005.jpg


in my new sweet dash :D
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P3200035.jpg


holley blue electric pump, summit lines and filter, holley regulator
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P3200019.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P3200032.jpg



wiring it all up, msd 6al, summit 16gal fuel cell, wiring sucks... im partaly color blind by the way :mad: all the wires look the same :D

[bobbywalter]

dayum.



you need a 460 for that beast:D 302 is gonna have a heart attack...

[MountainRanger]

lookin good nice fabrication

[metalmacguyver]

Thats a beefy diff cover! Ought to help lower the CG a little bit. :D

[DieselSmoke]

dayum.



you need a 460 for that beast:D 302 is gonna have a heart attack...


when (when not if) it blows mabey... i like them cummins 4bt's tho... then i can acually use that stack and make some smoke! :D

[DieselSmoke]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P4020021.jpg
rear springs maxed out, i have the stock shackles and springs on it right now. im going to be putting 63s on it soon

front springs are to stiff... not sure if its that there not broken it yet or what but i may need different springs. im going to wait tell i get the exo cage on then see i guess. i coulda kept goin up but my floor jack idea was a lil sketchy so i stoped. my highlift is broken and my engine hoist is being used so its all i had to flex with . i may still swap in coils and a 4 link
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P4020020.jpg


heres one idea for the exo. still not sure if im going to dove the front yet or not. if you think of something better post it up please
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P40200062.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P4020005.jpg


my tube bender will be done within the month

[rangernotlifted]

So ur the ranger with the stack, i believe ive seen u around, maybe if not o well u join the many of stacked rangers, doubles look better just get some 3 inch stacks

[DieselSmoke]

So ur the ranger with the stack, i believe ive seen u around, maybe if not o well u join the many of stacked rangers, doubles look better just get some 3 inch stacks

im probibly not goin to use a stack anymore. i was starting to build some headers to go stright up through the hood but im going to wait tell i get all my steering and such in

[DieselSmoke]

got the chevy 63s on

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P4160009.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P4180017.jpg

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[Sworn]

That is gonna be one tough truck!!

[DieselSmoke]

i didnt wanna make new shackle mounts and new shackles so i added to the stock ones for now, the truck finaly sits level now

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5090004.jpg

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http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5090026.jpg

[bobbywalter]

its funny, cause when i first seen this i thought you were stalking me cause your front setup is nearly identical to mine...

great minds right?..?..?..:D....:icon_hornsup:



the front chevy springs suck goat nutz...even in 4 in ez rides. for muddin though it really dont matter, just remove the bottom leafs. 2 in springs work best, but getting the height is a bitch with those for your needs.


all in all your rig is pretty similar to what i have, but i run an auto. with 40's i dont think the 302 is enough, needs a stroker. or is it a stroker?


as soon as i line up the rest of my drivetrain parts i will be diesel smokin too...


but i dont even have a place to work on shit again yet...:rolleyes:

[bobbywalter]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P40200062.jpg






maybe your not stalking me.


put all the front tube under the skin, only expose tube that has to be like around the cab, and make the sheet metel removable for times that require stoooopid. cause stupid is fun:D thats what i intend to do...


the flatbed plans i have had changed a dozen times in 2 years, i dont even know if i will ever do that...


the boat side setup i been thinking about has altered my cage plans even further..


never ends:sad:

[DieselSmoke]

all in all your rig is pretty similar to what i have, but i run an auto. with 40's i dont think the 302 is enough, needs a stroker. or is it a stroker?




no its just rebuilt with mild upgrades.

its got to be better then the 2.9 tho :D


as for the front springs yea they suck. as soon as i get some other stuff done to it im goin back to coils that way i can still get the heigth i need

[lil red]

[QUOTE=DieselSmoke;66851]rear side of crossmember done, .188 wall 1.5x1.5 square tube. ballistic fab poly ends/sleeves

i like the skull
i think my new engraver is gonna get a work out :D

:bling:

[DieselSmoke]

a update,

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P6300009.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P6300005.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P6300002.jpg


http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P6300013.jpg


progress is slow

[Big Red Ranger]

that is so cool i cant wait to see the finish product

[DieselSmoke]

thanks


i am seriously considering swapping in some rockwells before i put more money into a dana 60 :D

[bobbywalter]

every time i see this thing i get the hankerin to go satin black my rig.



one of these days i wont be able to stop myself and it will be all your fault:woot:

[DieselSmoke]

haha yea it cost me a whole 20 bucks to paint it to, i was going to paint it that desert tan but decided to go flat black and a lil tan instead, it would have been like 50 bucks for tan paint lol

do it, join the flat black club :D

[Jim Oaks]

Flat black can be cool. I've seen some really cool flat black paint jobs. I've even seen one with a nice flame job over it.

Nice thing about flat is it's easy to touch up!

When I see these trucks with full size leafs, especially leafs in the front, I wonder how guys come up with the right size springs to get the amount of lift they want on a Ranger.

[DieselSmoke]

yea every ranger ive had i ended up painting flat black :D

http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/5400/20060803008qa2.jpg

[Boggin-B-Series]

awesome build man, love the stack too :icon_cheers:

[bobbywalter]

Flat black can be cool. I've seen some really cool flat black paint jobs. I've even seen one with a nice flame job over it.

Nice thing about flat is it's easy to touch up!

When I see these trucks with full size leafs, especially leafs in the front, I wonder how guys come up with the right size springs to get the amount of lift they want on a Ranger.

trial and error jim.


for my truck rear ranger/sploder leafs were just too soft and needed traction bars of some sort as i was kinking them. i basically used what i had laying around and tried different setups till i got what i wanted. of course i have to meet a goal, 70 plus mph freeway capacity is a number 1. then tune to trail tolerance.

when i have time and money i will run coils or coilover type something eventually i am sure.

i have done f/s trucks and jeeps, the fs use 2 in jackers generally and jeeps run waggy springs w/d60 fronts.

one thing i have always needed with leaf setups and (what i consider acceptable) road use was a track bar too btw.


so flat black with siver/tan hue ghost flames...:drool:


hmmmm....

[rickcdewitt]

one thing i have always needed with leaf setups and (what i consider acceptable) road use was a track bar too btw.


any tips on keeping flex with one?longer and flatter the better?quick disconnect?

[DieselSmoke]

this is what i had planned on doing for the rear trac bar

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P7060004.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P70600042.jpg



except im waiting now, i have a friend who may be selling a set of 2 1/2 ton rockwells and 53" michelins :D :D :D

[bobbywalter]

any tips on keeping flex with one?longer and flatter the better?quick disconnect?

i pulled it off to see if it made a difference, its simply a ranger steering link. it does most definatly restrict movement. i have modded versions of the 250 link to work in xj's before as these do wear fast. used them on other setups as well so they are adjustable. once you have it where you want it you can make your permanant link.

if you use aftermarket links its not really a problem as long as your using soft springs. implement pins are great for popping it off at the trail, but its a pia and you need tools still to drive the pin out. i am not using soft springs so articulation is not very good anyway... but the way the whole setup works my wheels stay fairly planted and get traction anyway. just incorporating frame twist:dunno:

diesels truck is more of a dedicated mudder, where mine is still a driver, trail ride, mud ride, snowmobile ect..

i need to get some pics i guess:dntknw:


these are phone mailed, and i am not pic savvy soo i hope they are visible.


http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/216000-216999/216733_176_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/216000-216999/216733_175_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/216000-216999/216733_174_full.jpg

[rickcdewitt]

thats a good idea on a shackleless traction bar diesel,prices of gas makes me want to go all the way with my truck up on 38-40's and put my current setup on a b2 for a daily driver.instead of trying to run around on 35's with my long bed
bobby-you were just talking about the front right? this seems like what the yj's go though-leave it on and you track better and don't get windblown as much,but at the cost of flex.

i dig the 302 guys but i wonder what kind of output you could get from tweeking a new 4cyl powerstoke?probably no weight savings but 38's and 20mpg?:stirthepot:it would be sweet if that stack belched smoke!only problem is a diesel swap would be what, $8000 or more ?

[DieselSmoke]

these are phone mailed, and i am not pic savvy soo i hope they are visible.


http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/216000-216999/216733_176_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/216000-216999/216733_175_full.jpg


http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/12/web/216000-216999/216733_174_full.jpg

whats the link to your cardomain, i wanna see those pics bigger... or is that full size?



it would be sweet if that stack belched smoke!only problem is a diesel swap would be what, $8000 or more ?

:3gears: :D

yes it would be sweet, i was thinking of swapping in a 4bt cummins at one time but the money it would take wasnt in my budget

[bobbywalter]

i cant resize them, they are small and i think because from a phone? and i dont know about the camera phones and such. hell i wreck phones at an alarming rate too. so i dont even try to deal with them. i have more from this guy too.


the pics are not on my page i just load them on the thing there. i will redo the page eventually to reflect the trucks current setup when i actually set it back up like it was when i originally finished the swap..

dealing with that web page crap is too much like work. i would rather build a harness or tranny or post here and a few other places then waste the small amount of web time i have working on a web page:D


ric, as to the diesel, to trial out my 6.5 will only cost me 2-400 bux if that...hell it might not cost me anything just to fit it and see if i like it. its already in my possession from one of my work trucks. i planned on swapping it last week, seems i forgot about my daughters graduation open house up here ect..i thought i had more time....then we are having another open house back in detroit next so i wont even see that diesel project for a few more weeks. i started taking the engine out of the van, it still needs clean and prep just to see if its trustworthy enough like it sits to evaluate it in my ranger. i hate to fix the leaks and put a water pump/balancer ect on it to find out its to weak. that would suck

i think dieselsmoke should drop a 6.2 or 6.5 with a turbo in this thing too if he finds the 302 too hungry for fuel. but the 4bt would be a better bet as you can make alot more RELIABLE power with those lil animals. i dont think the 6.2 is up to the 53's..at least in stock form. a guy by the name of moontank you can find on pirate really did well with a mud setup and the 4bt so ol diesel smoke would be wicked sounding rollin on 53's with a cummins in it for sure. and we know it will work great for mud. tank more then proved that one.


i am just using what is most cost effective for me.


if the 4bt fairy dropped off a powertrain.....it would only be a matter of hours on my next day off before my rig was clattering down the road for sure:icon_hornsup: and probably bellerin coal from a stack too:D

[bobbywalter]

one thing too. to do a realistic diesel swap using a gm military type surplus powertrain say from ebay would most likely be done by a d.i.y. for less then 2 grand if a guy already had an sas truck. that would net 20 mpg in a rbv on 35's at legal speeds porperly geared. burning wmo or wvo would further lower the operating costs.


i have a healthy 302/gt40 engine and it handles the 44's on the road with no problem with 410 gears, of course i dont use od in the aod either, dont have too. that makes me think a banks 6.2 and 400 would work great.

in the thicker mud i need low range cause i dont want to wreck the tranny, but the 2.6x ratio is a lil steep for max wheel speed.. a 205 203 doubler would be perfect with 1.96 to spin the tires the right speed to float it better..and 4 to 1 to control obstacle movements.


on the trail a few days ago i blew both d shafts and broke the t case, i am now on my last ford t case too...:D

[lil red]

i love this project, its just so awosone, i cant explane it

and i love the idea of a cummins in a ranger(i want to swap a motor in, not sure what yet)

o and love the flat black and the stack
i think mines gonna be flat black, and than get some of the guys at my moms work to grafitti it, mabe flames

idk yet, good luck man

[DieselSmoke]

i bought a 2 1/2 ton 6x6 today :D rockwells it is :D

[metalmacguyver]

Pics!!!

[DieselSmoke]

Pics!!!

it'll be a week or so, i cant pick it up tell i get back from vacation.

[lunchbox]

Wow, posting for updates.

May need to steal the spring mount setup for my GW D44 axle swap. though I am planning to use the stock waggy springs if they arent too stiff.

[bobbywalter]

i bought a 2 1/2 ton 6x6 today :D rockwells it is :D

damn, for a second i thought they were gonna be twins:woot:



i am settlin on 60's for now..:derisive:....but the black satin paint....i think i need to really consider that.

[DieselSmoke]

damn, for a second i thought they were gonna be twins:woot:


i am settlin on 60's for now..:derisive:....but the black satin paint....i think i need to really consider that.


you should go with the black paint,
but the black with the tan exo cage and theme thing im going to have going on... totally only mine :thefinger:

by the way i got the whole 6x6 for less then the cost of a dana 60 :yahoo:

Edit: oh and that includes delivery to my house :D

[lil red]

rub it in why dont cha?

[bobbywalter]

you should go with the black paint,
but the black with the tan exo cage and theme thing im going to have going on... totally only mine :thefinger:

by the way i got the whole 6x6 for less then the cost of a dana 60 :yahoo:

Edit: oh and that includes delivery to my house :D

for who?


all totalled i made money on my 60 swap:bye: tuning will be a different issue, they are not locked yet.


that and i can drive my junk to wherever...triple digets on the freeway where its open and actually free and nobody is looking. never seen a m/a equipped rig that was doing that cost effectivly. of course that on small 35-40 in tires. aint going anywhere far on big mudders:fie:.

or those would be the axles i would be runnin:wub: they just look so bad ass...you have to want them.


was able to get a bigger pic....

http://www.rrorc.com/gallery/data/616/medium/Jul09_0031_2_.jpg

[DieselSmoke]

i like your truck, what axle do you have in the rear it doesnt look as wide.


i dont have pics of the truck yet, its a studebaker m35a1 6x6, i feel bad cutting the thing up cuz it still runs and drives good, but i want the rockwells :D

[JohnnyU]

I'd hack the rear of the frame off after the frontmost rear axle. Build a custom bed for it and wheel that. It'd be way better than a Ranger..... Then keep the ranger as a smaller play toy since its almost finished (sort of).


I know a guy who is building a truck just as I described with his Father, should be pretty badass when finished.

[DieselSmoke]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7922/image0021xf0.jpg

crappy cell pic, i decided to get the goodyear at-2a tires rather then the michelins, i heard the goodyears were softer and air down better, there 49" i think i got 51 when i measured but they only have 49s and 53s

[metalmacguyver]

Got pics of the Duece and a half?

[bobbywalter]

if the deuce is nice i would have one hell of a hard time parting it for the ranger...

i mean the ranger is muddin fun as it is..

thats one hell of a tough decision there. better you then me buddy i would hate to have the swirlin in my bean..


my axles are matched set of 60's ...were mint too, from a 79 one ton ford...snow killer thing...i have them beat up pretty bad though the last 10 months:icon_twisted:

[zachis4wheeling]

Finally bobby....some decent pics of the pile of shit....looks good. I still havn't gotten over to yur side of 75 lately to check it out, but now it looks like I'm gonna need to go for a ride in that pile to make sure it runs and whatnot......I like the old school mudders.....are those gumbos?

Zach

[DieselSmoke]

Got pics of the Duece and a half?

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3311/image0022nl9.jpg

ill get a better one tomorrow, its the only cell pic i had when it was kinda together still, the axles are out from under it now and most the body is scrapped

ill buy a better one someday, i dont have room for 2 extra trucks here

[bobbywalter]

Finally bobby....some decent pics of the pile of shit....looks good. I still havn't gotten over to yur side of 75 lately to check it out, but now it looks like I'm gonna need to go for a ride in that pile to make sure it runs and whatnot......I like the old school mudders.....are those gumbos?

Zach

those 44 gateway mudders are not mine. i have 42's. i can access 44 bogs..and will have two 44 hawgs to pair up with two of the 42 iroks.


unless i just buy a set of 44 bogs. but with duece axles 44's are too small:woot:

[DieselSmoke]

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=385796&stc=1&d=1218944685

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=385795&stc=1&d=1218944685

working on some stuff


shaved the diff, still have to grind it smooth
1/2inch threw center and 3/8 plate on the rest

[98liftedranger]

Awesome build thread man! I would love a truck like that!!!

[zachis4wheeling]

Like I said.....knew I'd seen this fawker somewhere else....

You gotta 14 bolt for sale? What gears are in if so?...

[DieselSmoke]

thanks


Like I said.....knew I'd seen this fawker somewhere else....

You gotta 14 bolt for sale? What gears are in if so?...


i was going to sell the 14 bolt but im going to save it for under my next project... a 4runner with a 4bt cummins :D, it wont be for a while tho

[madmax401]

your a fab genius DieselSmoke :) you oghtta quit your day job and build trucks for a living. two thumbs up and 5 star work man !!

[dburton07]

thing done yet or what????

[DieselSmoke]

your a fab genius DieselSmoke :) you oghtta quit your day job and build trucks for a living. two thumbs up and 5 star work man !!

haha thanks, if only i could... my day job is pretty sweet tho i must say

thing done yet or what????

working on link design still, havnt had much time to work on it lately tho

summit machine jimmy joints on the front of the links and ballistic flex joints rear side is what im thinking and triangulated center lowers with parallel outer uppers is whats working best so far with the frame and such

[traildevil67]

Any updates?

[Jim Oaks]

You still going to use those 6-inch front springs?

[DieselSmoke]

Any updates?

Not really, I haven't had time to work on anything lately, been working to much, but have all the parts and such i need now. im going to take some time off and finish the front end up soon, ill post up pics when its done.



You still going to use those 6-inch front springs?

i sold the d44 and springs and such





here's a few pics of what im using

4 summit machine lg jimmy joints, 4 ballistic fab 3.0 joints, greatlakesoffroad front rockwell cover, i made the rear cover, psc full hydro steering, diy rockwell pinion brakes

[machinist]

im speechless. im glad your not around my neck of the woods to make my truck look bad
but i sure would like a closer peek at that monster

[brnrubr4ever]

What coils are those you got there? superduty's?

[Rarasranger]

Wow... I was gettin really excited, then I noticed that I was gettin closer to the end. I kept yelling at the screen "Build! Build! C'mon you don't have much time!" But it was all for naught. This is the last page, I just have to wait.

[DieselSmoke]

thanks all

the springs are rubicon express 7.5" TJ coils

[machinist]

update!?

[DieselSmoke]

update!?

yep, got my wheel centers from c&m performance machine, link hangers welded on, ect...

im on vacation tho then will be in hawaii for a while :D ill post pics when i get back in april

[machinist]

april is almost gone.
come on im obsessed with this thing!

[DieselSmoke]

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P1310004.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P3100013.jpg
new wheel centers

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P4240025.jpg
cut frame, stock sucked

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P4180011.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030026.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030027.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030029.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030033.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030036.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030039.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030040.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030041.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/Ranger%20Build/P5030052.jpg


link #s about 80% antisquat

[DieselSmoke]

finished a wheel today :beer:, now 3 more :annoyed:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5120028.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5120029.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5120031.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5120033.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5120042.jpg

[rangernotlifted]

god mike have i ever told you how gay you are lol

[DieselSmoke]

god mike have i ever told you how gay you are lol

who's mike :icon_confused:

[rangernotlifted]

who's mike :icon_confused:

haha opps posted under wrong forum

[COPPERHEAD85]

Mike or not i have Axel envy.........lol

[PickupMan04 FX4 L2]

it took me two days to read all ten pages! damn i am impressed! i love this build and am now addicted! id love to watch and learn first hand!:icon_thumby:

Looking forward to following this closely!:icon_bounceblue:

[DieselSmoke]

front wheels on

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5170006.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5170008.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5170012.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t82/FullSize_V8_Ranger/P5170014.jpg

[brnrubr4ever]

Very nice!!! whos got those square tube adapters??? I need some of them for my 2.5 ranger

[Sasquatch_Ryda]

I think you need some fender flares:icon_twisted:

[DieselSmoke]

Very nice!!! whos got those square tube adapters??? I need some of them for my 2.5 ranger

ballistic fab, you have to cut about 1/4inch off the end or tap it more, the threads dont go all the way through which was dumb IMO

[kris97ranger]

i normally dont liek stacks on gas trucks but it looks cool on this one. and im assuming its gonna be a mud truck? so itd be good there 2

[rngr4x4beast]

holy shite that thing is beautiful

[alpinestar]

that thing is nuts... i wanna see it move, so get to it!!!