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I read the blower motor diagnostics in the tech section, and though it was very helpful, my relay is not in the same location in my 89 SC as it is in the 96 in the diagnostics. So I was wondering if anybody knows where it should be.
 


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There isn't a heater /air conditioner blower motor relay on the 1989 models. Power to the motor is supplied from the ignition switch through fuse #9 at all times when key is in the "run" position. Then the blower motor ground is supplied from the fan speed switch through the resistor block. What kind of problem are you having?
 

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Well I have a fan intermitently. It seems when I need it, it doesn't work and when I don't need it, it works. Basically, I can turn the switch to all 4 positions and get nothing. And other times I get all speeds. This is why I was thinking relay. I have no other electrical problems whatsoever, even the cig lighter works.
 

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OK, thanks; good description of the problem. If it were me troubleshooting this thing, I'd check these things:

1) Carefully unplug the connector on the blower resistor block. It's in the engine compartment, passenger side on the housing next to the blower motor. Look for corrosion on the terminals inside the connector and on the resistor block spades.

2) Check ground G102, which is on the driver's side fenderwell, midways up high. This supplies the ground to the fan switch. Check that the bolt is tight, and there's no corrosion.

3) Chech the 30A fuse #9, for looseness or corrosion.

4) Check connector C204, listed as in the passenger kick panel area; unfortunately the location drawing isn't labeled in the EVTM. This is the only connector between the fan switch and the blower, and it contains all of the blower wires; the wire colors that it contains are:
Brown/Orange - blower power
Red/Orange - blower speed #1 (lo, ground)
Yellow/Red - blower speed #2 (med lo, ground)
Lt. Green/White - blower speed #3 (med hi, ground)
Orange/Black - blower speed #4 (hi, ground)
Although those 5 wires are shown on the schematic as passing through C204, the EVTM calls C204 as a gray 4-pin, so that must be a typo. If you find this connector check for looseness and corrosion.

5) Finally, check the blower switch itself. Besides the connector being tight and no corrosion, look for signs of overheating. Ford HVAC systems are notoriously power-hungry, and I've seen a lot of heat-failed components over the years.

If nothing comes up with those points, pull the resistor block out and look for a loose connection. The resistor block usually gets failed elements, which takes out fan speeds, but conceivably a loose connection there could be causing your intermintent problems.

Good luck, and let us know what you find.
 

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Thanks for the quick reply and all the info. I checked all the things you suggested, which all connections are clean and tight, though the motor is working now too. So I guess I'll have to wait till it's not working and run some tests to see where I am getting power.
 

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Cool. One other thought, is the blower motor itself. Next time you catch it not working, be ready with a voltmeter or test light. You'll want to see if there is power AND ground at the blower motor itself. If there is, the motor is suspect; if either power or ground is not present, it's a matter then of working your way back on the power circuit or the blower ground circuit to the switch. It shouldn't be too hard to sort this one out.
 

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This was the next thing I was going to do, it just seems like the only time it doesn't work is when it's freezing cold outside and I've got to get to work. Thanks again for the help, you've been a plethora of information.
 

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I was gonna say "the next time it doesn't work try rapping on the blower motor" if it takes off then you need a blower motor.
The Resistor is the most common problem though.
 

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Well, even though I checked the connections, and they were clean as probably the day they were made, it seems as though either the plug on the motor itself, or the plug on the resistor is loose or something. I finally got it to not work again tonight, and had a chance to pull over and wiggle some things, and one of the two made it work. So now that I have it narrowed down I can hopefully rectify the situation before the serious cold of winter kicks in. Thank you all for the input.
 

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Good deal! Sounds like you're closing in on finding the problem and fixing it.
 

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Good deal! Sounds like you're closing in on finding the problem and fixing it.
Yeah, thanks again, just goes to show you how valuable this site is.
 

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