a good header?

[dangerranger0690]

i got a pacesetter header on my 2.3 and it is a total p.o.s cracking and falling apart i bought it new less than a year ago, dose anyone know where to get a stainless one? or if the hookers are any good?

[Ranger4banger97]

If you got it straight from pacesetter, and also not too long ago, they might replace it; I forget their warranty policy. I dunno, just my $.02

[dangerranger0690]

no, its past warranty ive welded it up about 50 times

[Ranger4banger97]

no, its past warranty ive welded it up about 50 times

Oooh dang..haha. Umm i guess you could try Esslinger or Racer Walsh, they've got some pretty good stuff. And i dont think Hooker makes the 4-banger ones anymore, if you know they do, let me know i want one haha!

[dangerranger0690]

yeah hooker still makes em available from summit esslinger dosent have anything thats not for a race car and racerwalsh carries the pacesetter

[4b316]

Go to http://www.schoenfeldheaders.com/fordpinto.htm and look at the under chassis header,fits fine on a ranger,all you have to do is add a o2 bung.you will lose a little bottom end,but more than make up for it on the top.$150.We use the thur the firewall one on our race truck and pickup 13 hp over the stock one.

[dangerranger0690]

dose it have a regular collector? are they pretty tuff? i think i need somethin more street oriented...

[Sevensecondsuv]

I like the 94 factory shorty header I have on mine. Provided a very noticable increase in power over the manifold.

[4b316]

No,they don't have a flange to bolt to,we use a slip connector.It sounds like with the work that you have done on your truck,that a Schoenfeld would work good.You aren't running the Egr tube or o2 sensor are you?We have run the same header since 2001,wrapped,and it shows no sign of failure.Before we wrapped it,it would run cherry red,looked pretty neat at nite,on the track

[dangerranger0690]

yeah, no 02sensor or egr, ive turned mine cherry before :) but i was runnin it hard

that one is cheaper than a pacesetter

[Dave R]

The shoenfeld header has gotten some good reviews.

Hedmann used to make a 2.3 Header. It was average quality.

[Ranger44]

Stock header

[Mutant Pony]

I also have the Shoenfeld. I haven't run it yet though. My old header is over twenty years old, It never cracked but, has developed a rust hole between tubes in the collector. I don't know who built it though. It didn't have a Hooker tag.
The first thing I do with a header that has a flange on the end is cut it off. The slip fit works much better. If you want a truly air tight seal, all you have to do is use a little ultra copper (high temp silicone). You usually don't need it though.

[Dave R]

The first thing I do with a header that has a flange on the end is cut it off. The slip fit works much better. If you want a truly air tight seal, all you have to do is use a little ultra copper (high temp silicone). You usually don't need it though.
I haven't had your luck. On my 1/4 mile toy, the kaufmann headers (made by Hedman) have slip fit primaries. I've tried everything short of welding them and they still leak.

[4b316]

we use a tapered slip fit and have two tubes welded to the side of the pipe and use a 5/16th X3 inches long bolt to draw the 2 together.As Mutant said if you want a seal,use copper sealant on the pipe.added benifit is that the pipe comes back apart "easily".Think we are going to try the "Tri-Y" header this year.

[offroadranger]

Go to http://www.schoenfeldheaders.com/fordpinto.htm and look at the under chassis header,fits fine on a ranger,all you have to do is add a o2 bung.you will lose a little bottom end,but more than make up for it on the top.$150.We use the thur the firewall one on our race truck and pickup 13 hp over the stock one.

Have you mounted one of the under the chassis headers on a ranger before? Obviously the flange at the head will work, but I'm curious if it will clear the trans and framerail alright?

I have the pacesetter header thats cracked in half now, but it fits perfectly between the transmission and frame rail on my 99 ranger.....the pacesetter comes down and the lower flange sits parralel with the frame, the schoenfeld looks like the flange is almost straight up and down, which would mean I'd have to make a new exhaust....but that may be worth it....?

[4b316]

There are 2 or 3 guys at the track that are running the under chassis header with no problems.We run the "thur the firewall"header that goes thur about where the heater box was,probably not the best idea for the street.

[offroadranger]

There are 2 or 3 guys at the track that are running the under chassis header with no problems.We run the "thur the firewall"header that goes thur about where the heater box was,probably not the best idea for the street.

cool, well i just ordered one, hope it fits! thanks

[TheRedRangerRidesAgain]

Get A Doug Thorley Tri-Y, best headers ever, trust me, got one on my 2.3 had it for years, no leaks or anything, just remeber to check the bolts that attach it to the head periodically for the first few months to make sure they aren't backing off

[Dave R]

The only thing I could find for a Ranger on Doug Thorley's (http://www.dougthorleyheaders.com/) website is a cat back exhaust system. If you have a part number for the header could you post it?

[offroadranger]

The only thing I could find for a Ranger on Doug Thorley's (http://www.dougthorleyheaders.com/) website is a cat back exhaust system. If you have a part number for the header could you post it?

That would be nice....

I got my shoenfeld header on wednesday.....it looks MUCH nicer then the pacesetter I had(cracked in half).....AND CHEAPER!!!! The tubes are spread open a good 1/4"+ larger at the ports which is HUGE(and the gasket they give you matches the larger port size!!!), the overall package just looks much better designed, I can actually get the bolts in this one without tearing up my knuckles and throwing wrenches!!!

BTW, racerwalsh sells BOTH the pacesetter and shoenfeld headers, you just have to search a bit, cause they dont tell you the brand, but they have great service over there.