a good header?

dangerranger0690 · Oct 15, 2007

i got a pacesetter header on my 2.3 and it is a total p.o.s cracking and falling apart i bought it new less than a year ago, dose anyone know where to get a stainless one? or if the hookers are any good?

Ranger4banger97 · Oct 15, 2007

If you got it straight from pacesetter, and also not too long ago, they might replace it; I forget their warranty policy. I dunno, just my $.02

dangerranger0690 · Oct 15, 2007

no, its past warranty ive welded it up about 50 times

Ranger4banger97 · Oct 15, 2007

dangerranger0690 said:
no, its past warranty ive welded it up about 50 times

Oooh dang..haha. Umm i guess you could try Esslinger or Racer Walsh, they've got some pretty good stuff. And i dont think Hooker makes the 4-banger ones anymore, if you know they do, let me know i want one haha!

dangerranger0690 · Oct 15, 2007

yeah hooker still makes em available from summit esslinger dosent have anything thats not for a race car and racerwalsh carries the pacesetter

4b316 · Oct 16, 2007

Go to http://www.schoenfeldheaders.com/fordpinto.htm and look at the under chassis header,fits fine on a ranger,all you have to do is add a o2 bung.you will lose a little bottom end,but more than make up for it on the top.$150.We use the thur the firewall one on our race truck and pickup 13 hp over the stock one.

dangerranger0690 · Oct 16, 2007

dose it have a regular collector? are they pretty tuff? i think i need somethin more street oriented...

Sevensecondsuv · Oct 16, 2007

I like the 94 factory shorty header I have on mine. Provided a very noticable increase in power over the manifold.

4b316 · Oct 17, 2007

No,they don't have a flange to bolt to,we use a slip connector.It sounds like with the work that you have done on your truck,that a Schoenfeld would work good.You aren't running the Egr tube or o2 sensor are you?We have run the same header since 2001,wrapped,and it shows no sign of failure.Before we wrapped it,it would run cherry red,looked pretty neat at nite,on the track

dangerranger0690 · Oct 17, 2007

yeah, no 02sensor or egr, ive turned mine cherry before

but i was runnin it hard

that one is cheaper than a pacesetter

Dave R · Oct 17, 2007

The shoenfeld header has gotten some good reviews.

Hedmann used to make a 2.3 Header. It was average quality.

Ranger44 · Oct 17, 2007

Stock header

Mutant Pony · Oct 17, 2007

I also have the Shoenfeld. I haven't run it yet though. My old header is over twenty years old, It never cracked but, has developed a rust hole between tubes in the collector. I don't know who built it though. It didn't have a Hooker tag.
The first thing I do with a header that has a flange on the end is cut it off. The slip fit works much better. If you want a truly air tight seal, all you have to do is use a little ultra copper (high temp silicone). You usually don't need it though.

Dave R · Oct 18, 2007

Mutant Pony said:
The first thing I do with a header that has a flange on the end is cut it off. The slip fit works much better. If you want a truly air tight seal, all you have to do is use a little ultra copper (high temp silicone). You usually don't need it though.

I haven't had your luck. On my 1/4 mile toy, the kaufmann headers (made by Hedman) have slip fit primaries. I've tried everything short of welding them and they still leak.

4b316 · Oct 20, 2007

we use a tapered slip fit and have two tubes welded to the side of the pipe and use a 5/16th X3 inches long bolt to draw the 2 together.As Mutant said if you want a seal,use copper sealant on the pipe.added benifit is that the pipe comes back apart "easily".Think we are going to try the "Tri-Y" header this year.

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