step by step 93 ranger sas

vrruumm · Oct 15, 2007

Nice forum, good collection of info.

I'm just starting a ranger sas with a cheokee dana 30.
The axle looks like it is going to work great. It is close to the same width, same lug pattern. Pinion yoke is in a good spot for the stock transfer case.
I am planning a long radius arm set up because of the nice mounting points for the factory jeep four link arms. Looks like the coil spring buckets are going to be in a good spot already too.

I'll be posting pictures with my progress along the way. Please don't trash talk. Usefull input is always welcome. I am a self emloyed mechanic/fabricator and use forums like this for input on a daily basis. :icon_welder:

-Ryan

JohnnyU · Oct 15, 2007

Just curious, what size tire are you shooting for?
No trash talk, but why'd you choose the D30?

metalmacguyver · Oct 15, 2007

Welcome to the forum. i am debating sasing with a d44 or a d30. will watch your build for the pros and cons.

also, what are the plans for this rig? trail only, tire size, type of locker, gears,...?

THE WHITE RHINO · Oct 15, 2007

if you do the dana 30 you are dumb my opioion i guess

Ranger5.0 · Oct 15, 2007

the D 35 is a stronger axle the the D30..keep that in mind..juss curious, why the sas anyways?

JohnnyU · Oct 15, 2007

The D30 debate always sparks controversy. I'm going to keep a close eye on this thread. I DO NOT want to see any trash talking in this thread. I'm anxious to see it's progress and don't want a bunch of thread-crapping going on.

Ranger5.0 · Oct 15, 2007

Good point. The D30 would most likly live a helty long life if left with an open diff, lowish torque, and a smart foot on the go pedle....after saying that, it woldnt live long if i swaped one in.

vrruumm · Oct 15, 2007

Just curious, what size tire are you shooting for?
No trash talk, but why'd you choose the D30?

I chose the d30 because of the availability and cost, becuase of the nice 4 link mounts that will serve as nice radius arm mounts, the width, lug pattern and price/availability of parts.

the D 35 is a stronger axle the the D30..keep that in mind..juss curious, why the sas anyways?

Ease of instalaion, ease of fabrication of parts, cost of completed job & long travel hopefully.

if you do the dana 30 you are dumb my opioion i guess

Thanks

also, what are the plans for this rig? trail only, tire size, type of locker, gears,...?

The vehicle is primarily used for chasing parts for my shop and wheeling on the side, will be using 35 in tires, eventualy 4.88 gears and lockright locker.

I debated for quite a while what to do for the front end. I know the twin ttb setups can be done well, but would also require extensive modifications and have another slip joint & u-joint. The early bronco d44 was another option, but the radius arms would have to be modified, the front brakes would have to be converted to disk, and they are hard to find, especially with disks. (And usaully expensive) Most other axles would have to be narrowed and the lug pattern would be different than the back, and I don't want to mess with the rear, or have to drill axles and rotors/drums for a new lug pattern and have to drill again every time I replace rotors or drums.

vrruumm · Oct 16, 2007

The rig will be used for wheeling quite a bit, that's how I meet alot of my customers. My familly and I spend quite a bit of time wheeling in the snow in the winter time. I live close to some pretty good trails outside of Enumclaw, Wa. Iv'e been wheeling a scout 800a (with a d30) for a while , but it's pretty beat.

I install gears and lockers professionally and am very familiar with the d30. The axle shafts are quite weak, but the later model d30's have d44 sized u-joints though. I will swap to those if I break mine or install the cromoly axle kit.

I have only seen one broken carrier in a d30 and that one was welded up!
The aftermarket solves this problem with full lockers if someone were to run into this issue. The cross pin shafts break when they're worn through, but when you install your lockright or similar locker, you should spend the 20 bucks on a hardened cross pin shaft. Maybe someone else has seen more issues with the d30, try being more specific than calling me dumb.

I bought 2 dana 30 cherokee front diffs last night for 100 dollars. One has the disconnect on the pass side axle and the other has the solid shaft. I'll use the one with the solid shaft. I'll need to do some more research and figure out how to put some descently strong manual locking hubs on the thing (cheaply).

THE WHITE RHINO · Oct 16, 2007

dana 30 ring and pinion with arb on light moderate rocks

Snurfer · Oct 16, 2007

an early good morning to everyone.

vrrrooomm
i for one am very very interested in the swap you are about to do.
i have started collecting parts to do the same axle swap in my 95 ranger.
i chose the D30 for the same reasons you did. people have told me that im crazy for using the 30 but the fact that its the same width, lug pattern, and already has mounting points on the axle for the front linkage in my mind makes it a perfect swap. i would greatly appreciate you posting your step by step progress on the swap.

everyone have a good day.

i look forward to seeing the project come together.

for everyone else
dont knock someone because of what they want to do to their rig.
if all you're going to do is bash an individual because of the choices they make on their vehicle, just keep your mouth shut and get out of this forum.

vrruumm · Oct 16, 2007

i for one am very very interested in the swap you are about to do.
i have started collecting parts to do the same axle swap in my 95 ranger.

Right on snurfer, I'll be cleaning and painting my d30 tonight and installing a few ball joints. Might tear down the two d30's I have and use the better of the two sets of ring and pinions. I have a 2 post car hoist in my shop, will make for some good pictures.

milje · Oct 16, 2007

Ranger5.0 said:
the D 35 is a stronger axle the the D30..keep that in mind..juss curious, why the sas anyways?

Didn't 1badB2 have a D30 in the front of his rig? I don't ever remember hearing about him having problems with his setup. If you know what you're doing, and how to wheel, you should be fine.

Can't wait to see how this turns out :icon_thumby:

Jim Oaks · Oct 16, 2007

THE WHITE RHINO said:
dana 30 ring and pinion with arb on light moderate rocks

Could this have been the result from a poor set-up from someone trying to do their own gears, or someone just getting the set-up wrong?

4x4junkie · Oct 16, 2007

milje said:
Didn't 1badB2 have a D30 in the front of his rig? I don't ever remember hearing about him having problems with his setup. If you know what you're doing, and how to wheel, you should be fine.

He stripped the R&P on his also.

Agreed though, the D30 is a very sturdy axle for it's size. If you understand the boundaries of it's strength while out driving, it should hold up decent.

Another buildup is always welcome here on TRS :icon_thumby:

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