410 ci Marduke?

[BDAB]

anybody hear of an engine call the 410 Marduke? I seen one today in a 72 F250 at a pick and pull in Wisconsin getting some parts for my totaled peterbilt. wish i would have had my phone on me.

[rusty ol ranger]

Mercury/Lincoln had an old 410 that was used in the early 60s????? I think it used an FE (360, 390) pattern so it may of been swapped in.

later,
Dustin

[BDAB]

Mercury/Lincoln had an old 410 that was used in the early 60s????? I think it used an FE (360, 390) pattern so it may of been swapped in.

later,
Dustin


thats what it looked like, and FE block.

[rusty ol ranger]

Yeah i dont know much about them, other then they were big, heavy, torquey, and slow revving. Kinda like a 300 with 2 extra cyls.

Truthfully ive only had experince with one and that was in an old like 60's merc (or lincoln, cant remeber i was like 12), and it had a shit load of power, but used the gas. Im pretty sure it was never used from the factory in a pickup, but that truck was prolly originally a 360 or 390 and it was swapped in.

later,
Dustin

[rusty ol ranger]

Heres some info i found on shitipiedia, take it for what its worth...

Ford developed the MEL ("Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln") engine series for use in their line of Mercury models from 1958 through 1967. The MEL also replaced Lincoln's unique Y-block design. These engines were produced in Lima, Ohio at Ford's Lima Engine plant. They were replaced by the 385 series engines.

All MEL engines had wedge shaped combustion chambers formed between a flat head surface and an angle milled block deck (10 degrees off square with the bore axis), with the piston top determining the compression ratio and combustion chamber shape, similar to the Chevrolet Big-Block 348 combustion chamber, also introduced in 1958, and the later 409. Unlike the Chevrolet, which had staggered valves and scalloped or M shaped valve covers, the MEL valves were inline with shaft mounted rocker arms like the FE model Ford engines which were introduced at the same time. As with the previous generation V8's, an open runner intake manifold was used, requiring the use of a stamped steel lifter valley cover similar to that of the Pontiac V8 engines. Also, the intake manifold provided no exhaust crossover passage to warm the air/fuel mixture, relying solely on the heat riser mounted over the left exhaust manifold to provide heat for warming the air/fuel mixture.

The MEL was similar to the Ford FE, with the same oiling system, bolt patterns, and valve stems, but was even larger. The main bearings were 2.9 in (74 mm), while the rod bearings were huge at 2.6 in (66 mm). The connecting rod beam had a unique triangular shape with the shoulders for the bolts sitting low toward the cap mating surface (1/2 in.).

410

The least-common MEL engine was the 410 cu in (6.7 L) E-475. Bore was lower at 4.2 in (106.7 mm). 10.5.1 compression, a Holley four-barrel carb, and hydraulic lifters pushed out 333 hp (248 kW) and 475 ft·lbf (644 Nm) of torque. This engine was only used in the 1958 Edsel Corsair and Citation.

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I found there was another 410 V8 produced....probley the one you seen...

410 cubic inch

This is a 390 block with a 428 crankshaft

Four barrell carb.

The stroke is increased .020 in for a total of 3.98 inches

Only used in Mercury vehicles from 1966 to 1967

The second one sounds more along the lines of an FE, but that MEL engine sounds intresting...475ftlbs....i bet thats a fun engine...thats almost as much torque as a 440 mopar.

[BDAB]

thanks dustin. If you want it, its complete and runs, has a 4spd.

[Will]

Great research job Dustin. I was about to do that.

I have seen only one of those, a 462. It was in a junkyard in Escondido.

[rusty ol ranger]

Id like to have it....truthfully i have no use for it. The only thing i could see putting it in would be my mudtruck turned daily driver and i see no reason in ripping out a good running 390.

Come to think of it my buddies dad used to have a 410 sitting in his barn. I dont know if he still has it or not because hes cleaned up alot of junk. (I crap you not at one time he had enough late 70's Ford truck parts to build one complete, well running, good loooking, truck, from pieces of others).

What junkyard is it in?....and where is barrien springs? I remember you saying you went down around eden/edgerton ohio to get a load once...i work at the menards DC down in holiday city...so im wondering how far you live from me....

Oh and will...thanks for the compliment dude.

later,
Dustin

[BDAB]

take I94 west to exit 28 and go south on M139 for 10 miles. I am 10 miles south of Benton Harbor. or take hwy 12 west to US31 and go north to exit 13 and east into town. I seen the Pickup in a pick and pull for big trucks about 20 min south of Milwaukee. There is a Menards DC in Holiday city? I knew of the one in Eau Claire and I was contracted to the one in Plano.

[Ruffinit]

Hey guys,
I had a 410 in my '69 F100 for years. When I first bought the truck I thought that it had the common 360 in it, but after months of checking out part numbers I found that it was the '67 Merc 410. Made only in '66 and '67 as above in their big cars like the Marquis for instance, somebody swapped it into my truck. Absolutely the best TRUCK engine I've ever had. 444 ft/lbs torque with 335 HP stock. It's basically a 428 stroked 390. If you like FEs (I do) then you'll LOVE this engine.. Used to take it over to the Dodge dealer just for fun because they used to brag about the pulling power of the Cummins. I embarassed them on more than one occasion... This truck also had a dana full posi rear end. I would love to have another, but alas I have nothing to put it in. I still have all the specs and papers on that engine. The 4bbl carb was specifically designed and used only on that engine.

[rusty ol ranger]

take I94 west to exit 28 and go south on M139 for 10 miles. I am 10 miles south of Benton Harbor. or take hwy 12 west to US31 and go north to exit 13 and east into town. I seen the Pickup in a pick and pull for big trucks about 20 min south of Milwaukee. There is a Menards DC in Holiday city? I knew of the one in Eau Claire and I was contracted to the one in Plano.

Yeah, it actually sits east of pioneer about 2 miles. But its address is holiday city.

It just became functional in the past two years or so.


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Hey guys,
I had a 410 in my '69 F100 for years. When I first bought the truck I thought that it had the common 360 in it, but after months of checking out part numbers I found that it was the '67 Merc 410. Made only in '66 and '67 as above in their big cars like the Marquis for instance, somebody swapped it into my truck. Absolutely the best TRUCK engine I've ever had. 444 ft/lbs torque with 335 HP stock. It's basically a 428 stroked 390. If you like FEs (I do) then you'll LOVE this engine.. Used to take it over to the Dodge dealer just for fun because they used to brag about the pulling power of the Cummins. I embarassed them on more than one occasion... This truck also had a dana full posi rear end. I would love to have another, but alas I have nothing to put it in. I still have all the specs and papers on that engine. The 4bbl carb was specifically designed and used only on that engine.

All the FE's seemed to be pretty powerful engines. Ive never had a 352 or 360 but i know this 390 i got in my 76 is pretty awesome. For being all stock and worn out it turned my 38's in the mud just as good as the 454 Chevys i was running with. Now that i got it back to "stockish" (4in lift with 33's) its a real powerhouse. Put er' in 2nd (4sp w/creeper) and dump the clutch and watch the 33's just bellow.

To bad it only gets about 6MPG.

later,
Dustin

later,
Dustin

[Shran]

All the FE's seemed to be pretty powerful engines. Ive never had a 352 or 360 but i know this 390 i got in my 76 is pretty awesome.

360's seem to differ a bit. My buddy had one that he supposedly suped up that turned out to be a gutless turd, but another that I drove around for a while was like crazy ridiculous, and it was just an old beat up farm truck.

My only experience with the 352 was the one my buddy (the one with the 360 turd) had for a while...ate 3 sets of crank bearings before he figured out that the crank was bent.

And the 390 is sick too..my dad had one in a 75 F250. Lots of power.

[BDAB]

I have driven a few but I have never actually had a 390. My dad had a 73 F100 that had a 360 and it was a stump puller and I had for 2 weeks a 72 F100 with a 352 that I sold to my former sister inlaw, paid $400 for it, put new head gaskets in it and sold it to her for $1000. I just past up a 70 F250 2wd with a built 390 and 4spd about 7 months ago.

[rusty ol ranger]

You shoulda got that 76 man....that woulda been a hellcious truck

Im going to have to put this 390 up against the 400 in my 78. My 400 isnt exactly stock but i think this 390 might give it a decent run.

later,
Dustin

[BDAB]

I don't want a 2wd. IMO a 2wd pick up is almost as worthless as a stock 302 in a full size. Unless we are talking a dually.

[rusty ol ranger]

Im with ya there, but ive seen 2wds with a fearless driver and a heavy right foot that seemed unstoppable :)

Duallys are worthless in the snow though. My 78 wont go if theres more then 2 inches.

later,
Dustin

[Ruffinit]

Well, I've had my share of FE engines, 360, 390 and that 410.. The 360s have a narrow power band, the 390 is a great engine all round, the 428s have only been in cars, but that 410 is the boss of beast. I've run the old trucks plenty. The 67-72 are my favorites and the 400 in my '78 was nice and the 351M in my F350 is great, but it's kinda like ice cream... you have your favorites. That 410 would put any of them to shame in a grunt match. One down side and the reason that I had to sell it was that I was moving from Silverdale Washington to Fayetteville NC. At 7mpg I couldn't afford to take it with me, and it ran on leaded premium. BTW, all my trucks have had sticks. I don't play around with the girlie shifters.

:stirthepot:

[AllanD]

I wish my uncle had kept the '64 F100 fleetside that my other uncle stuck a 430MEL engine into...

That truck was a laugh riot.

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[Sevensecondsuv]

My buddy's got an old lincoln continental with a 462 MEL in it. It's got the backwards opening rear doors and everything. It's been sitting at his dad's barn for years and the mice have really gotten to the interior.

A couple of years ago we decided to drive it around so we put a 5 gal gas can on the floor and ran a rubber fuel line straight to the engine from the can (original tank and gas line were broke). The throttle linkage was broke so we ran a length of stranded copper wire from the carb through a hole in the firewall. Finally, adding 15 quarts of whatever petroleum based fluid we could find (10W-30, trans fluid, steering fluid, used tractor oil, synthetic 0W-20, brake fluid, etc) to the C-6 and it was ready to run.

For having sat for 10 years, that thing was a beast. You'd yank the throttle wire and just hold on for dear life. There's just something so much fun about screaming down a gravel road at 70 mph in an old tank with a gas can in the front seat and a throttle wire in your hand!!

I should go do that again!