8.8 Full Floater

metalmacguyver · Oct 9, 2007

i have been reading around and have seen that warn once made a FF kit for the 8.8. has any one seen one of these or better yet, know where one might still be found? i have not been able to find anything.

Thanks

Ranger5.0 · Oct 9, 2007

i think they discontinued that kit, but im not sure

JFA_Spyderman · Oct 10, 2007

yo,
You can a full floater kit from Jegs. They call them c-clip eliminators and they are made by moser. They have two different ones depending on which 8.8 you have.

rickcdewitt · Oct 10, 2007

superior axle makes a c clip eliminator kit with large press on bearings used in custom d60's and 31 spline axle shafts.i was looking through some jeep forums yesterday looking for d44 parts and stumbled across an 8.8 with one of those warn kits.that might be the best way to find the kit(or whole axle) you're talking about.

Todd · Oct 10, 2007

I don’t think a c-clip eliminator kit is the same as a full floater kit. True a full floater does not have c-clips but the axle only transmits torque to the wheels and does not support the weight of the vehicle. A c-clip eliminator kit will make the use of a c-clip to hold the axle in obsolete but will not make it a full floater. That is unless it comes with new shafts, spindles, bearings, hubs/drive flanges. Then its not a c-clip elim kit it’s a full floater kit.

rickcdewitt · Oct 10, 2007

Todd said:
I don’t think a c-clip eliminator kit is the same as a full floater kit. True a full floater does not have c-clips but the axle only transmits torque to the wheels and does not support the weight of the vehicle. A c-clip eliminator kit will make the use of a c-clip to hold the axle in obsolete but will not make it a full floater. That is unless it comes with new shafts, spindles, bearings, hubs/drive flanges. Then its not a c-clip elim kit it’s a full floater kit.

yep it needs to be like a one ton axle with regular bearings to be full float.either set up would probably work fine in a rbv.the superior kit is about 540$

JFA_Spyderman · Oct 10, 2007

Yo,
Yeah Todd, i see what you are saying. A c-clip eliminator will make it so you dont have to take off the diff cover to remove the axle (and offeres another bearing for the axle to ride on), but the axle is still supporting the weight of the truck and if you snap a shaft, the wheel will fall off.

Sasquatch_Ryda · Oct 10, 2007

Actually if you snap an axle the wheel will not fall off, that is why c clip eliminators are a must in drag racing when using slicks.

Totalled · Oct 10, 2007

http://therangerstation.com/tech_library/FreeFloating8_8.html

metalmacguyver · Oct 11, 2007

rickcdewitt said:
i was looking through some jeep forums yesterday looking for d44 parts and stumbled across an 8.8 with one of those warn kits.that might be the best way to find the kit(or whole axle) you're talking about.

which jeep forum? i am very interested in this.

Totalled said:
http://therangerstation.com/tech_library/FreeFloating8_8.html

that is where i first learned about the origional FF kit that warn had. i became intrested in it and wanted to learn about other options.

as far as whether or not the wheel would fall off, the only way that it would with a C clip eliminatior kit is if the shaft broke right at the flange. this is unlikely however because the narrowest part of the shaft is be the splines where necks down a little bit.

rickcdewitt · Oct 11, 2007

metalmacguyver said:
which jeep forum? i am very interested in this.

that is where i first learned about the origional FF kit that warn had. i became intrested in it and wanted to learn about other options.

sorry i don't remember,i did a web search for "jeep forum" and was using the search function in the for sale sections to look for the parts i want.pirate 4x4,jeep forum, are a few to start with.they won't be cheap though,probably a lot more than superiors kit.

AllanD · Oct 12, 2007

Sasquatch_Ryda said:
Actually if you snap an axle the wheel will not fall off, that is why c clip eliminators are a must in drag racing when using slicks.

Actually that depends greatly on WHERE the axle shaft breaks.

C-clip eliminators are for track use they are worthless for on highway vehicles because nobody has ever made a C-clip eliminator that doesn't leak.
atleast not one where the reports of it have reached my ears....

There WAS a "Full floater" kit but it was for F-150 and full size broncos

I don't believe anyone has ever made one for RBVs.

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Sasquatch_Ryda · Oct 13, 2007

AllanD said:
Actually that depends greatly on WHERE the axle shaft breaks.

C-clip eliminators are for track use they are worthless for on highway vehicles because nobody has ever made a C-clip eliminator that doesn't leak.
atleast not one where the reports of it have reached my ears....

There WAS a "Full floater" kit but it was for F-150 and full size broncos

I don't believe anyone has ever made one for RBVs.

AD

I know that, but i am yet to see an axle break right at the flange, everyone i have seen is at the spline end.

Our race car (89 mustang, done to the nuts 302, 8.8 with 28 spln moser shafts and cclip eliminator kit) has had the c clip eliminators in it for about 2 years now with no leaks and its gets street driven, highway driven and beat on the drag strip on the weekend ends.

baddis · Oct 13, 2007

you also might check with the dirt racer crowd . i don't know if any are running 8.8's but i know for a fact they have 31 or 35 spline(don't remember) 9 inch ff

metalmacguyver · Oct 13, 2007

metalmacguyver said:
as far as whether or not the wheel would fall off, the only way that it would with a C clip eliminatior kit is if the shaft broke right at the flange. this is unlikely however because the narrowest part of the shaft is be the splines where necks down a little bit.

ok thanks for the responses. if i do find anything ill make sure to spread the knowlage.

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