milemarker pe8000

[c_note]

well im sure this winch gets the job done but my question was does this winch work well under extreme conditions. im talkin bout say ur sinking and u need to pull urself out right away and not worry bout burning up the motor! am i just better off getting a Warn?

Thanks

btw... not sure if this is the right forum

[samsonitesamsonite]

it wasn't, so i moved it. I have no experience with MM but experience tells me that if you have the need to ask, then you need warn.

[rickcdewitt]

it says right in the mile marker literature that they are for occational use only.they also have slower line speed and less pulling power the more line is on the drum compared to warn.2-300$ less though.

[JohnnyU]

Mines been used and abused for over two years without any sign of fatigue. I'd suggest a 9500# just for the extra pulling power, but my 8000 has never left me stranded.

[PARKINGLOT]

it nice when people who actually have experience chime in, eh Johnny?

[rickcdewitt]

it nice when people who actually have experiance chime in, eh Johnny?i like my e9000.its nice when people who can spell chime in.^^

[PARKINGLOT]

i like my e9000.its nice when people who can spell chime in.^^

ouch! okay, my bad. Sometimes I type too fast for my own good :icon_thumby:

[JohnnyU]

He asked about the MileMarker PE8000. I have a MileMarker PE8000, thus I offered my first hand experience with said product.

[rickcdewitt]

they are both light duty winches with slower line speeds.the real question is does he really need a heavier duty winch?thats up to him.from my limited use of a pe 8000 on my uncles jeep i'de say it works fine like you said.no getting around the fact its made in chi-wan-istan though.nice of you to defend parkinglot

[JohnnyU]

nice of you to defend parkinglot

I'm not defending anyone. Don't give me that kind of attitude, no one wants to hear it. :flipoff:

[Todd]

I have no personal experience with MM winches as many of my buddies that have rigs and actually wheel have warns. The ones that don’t wheel much have either MM, Ramsy, or china winches, if that tells you anything. IDK.

All I know is my Warn 8274-50 is stupid simple, fast and tough!!!!! If you want something to pull fast all day long then this is the winch for you. I have used the piss out of this thing being winch bitch on trail rides tugging full sizes around. With a snatch block its unstoppable and versatile.

[PARKINGLOT]

He asked about the MileMarker PE8000. I have a MileMarker PE8000, thus I offered my first hand experience with said product.

I know you do. All I meant is, It's nice when someone that was used said product to chime in, rather than the usual "oh it's a piece of junk" from someone who's never used it. If I can find one when I've got to cash, I'm also considering a PE8000...

[JohnnyU]

As far as occasional-use winches for off-road recovery, Warn seems to be one of the better names. However, I do actually wheel my truck, and do actually use my winch, MileMarker or otherwise....


If you want a real winch, look into a Ramsey worm-gear hydraulic winch, they're unstoppable. That was all we used to run on our hydraulic wreckers back in the day.

[rickcdewitt]

If you want a real winch, look into a Ramsey worm-gear hydraulic winch, they're unstoppable. That was all we used to run on our hydraulic wreckers back in the day.the hydralic winches used on tow trucks are nice.i've seen my buddy who works out of the bodyshops impound yard almost tear a car in two with one.only problem is the motor must be running the entire time with hydralics(good idea with electric winches also but that difference could save your butt).BTW the only real differences between the pe8000 and e9000 is 4.1hp instead of 4.5.same controller,same ratio.if you look back at his question you'll see he asked if it was heavy duty with a fast line speed.i don't need to have had a MM for two years to answer no to both.as i said before does he really need a fast heavy duty winch? thats the question.what will he use it for?not whether or not you have more experience with the 8000.

[Woods-Rider]

I've got a PE8000 on my rig and it pulls fine. not the fastest but unless you plan on getting stuck every hour then it should be just fine.

[Jim Oaks]

This link will give you different performance/speed ratings for different winches:

http://www.trsfabandoffroad.com/products/winch_performance_comparisons.htm

at a 6,000lb load, my Warn XD9000i will pull at 8.67ft/min. A Warn M8000 will pull at 9.79ft/min, the MM PE8000 will pull 6 ft/min and a MM SX9.5 will pull at 12.8 ft/min.

When you compare line speeds, look at the speeds with the same loads. Warn M8000 is rated real fast with 0 load, but only 3.79 ft/min faster than MM under load.

It would take the MM PE8000 2.04 minutes to winch 6,000lbs 20ft. It would take a MM PE8000 3.33 minutes to do the same. A MM SX9.5 could knock it down to 1.56 minutes.

[Todd]

As far as occasional-use winches for off-road recovery, Warn seems to be one of the better names. However, I do actually wheel my truck, and do actually use my winch, MileMarker or otherwise....


Oh I know. Was just bustin on my buddys that dont.

[Will]

I have had two of those cheap winches. One was a MM PE 8000 and the other a HF 8000. They are slow as hell. I used them all the time and I dreaded having to wind all the cable back in. It was painful to stand there feeding the cable as it literally inched its way into the drum. I firmly believe that both winches died of just constant grinding away from spooling the cable in. If you just want to show off a winch, they are fine. Maybe once a year you will use it. But if you need it, damn, it's not worth it. I suffered for years with those. I was to the point where I would gathe rup the cable and shove it into the passenger side window because i knew I would just have to get it out again in a couple of minutes. It's not worth the pain and suffering. They will pull hard, no question. But they are agonizing and short-lived if you use it frequently.

What I have now is a Superwinch EPi 9.0. It's extremely fast winding the cable back in--47fpm. That is my number one criteria. You usually have to pull only a few feet to rescue yourself so line speed under load doesn't mean much. You need to get the cable back in to get mobile again. But this SW is a good puller under load as well, and it's a 9,000# winch. I would say it's very similar to Jim's XD9000i, but it's a lot faster without a load on it.

It's part# 09034 and I got it for $600 with free shipping and it comes with a snatch block. I bought it from some RUbicon outfitter website I believe.

Like I said, if you aren't planning to spend a lot of time with the cable out, those two cheap winches are fine. But you will suffer if you plan to use them frequently. It's not worth it.