If the Ranger lives on redesigned how will it differ?

[bmacsys]

From the product we have today? How will it be different and what would people like to see changed?

[BlackBII]

I'd like to see a four door model, a turbo Diesel or a V8, and a straight axle...

But it's unlikely

[bmxryder]

i would like to see a long travel set up similar to the f.150 raptor.

[Beanmachine7000]

I'd like to see a new Ranger with a Bronco variant in short and long wheelbase options, with 2 full float solid axles, 4 cylinder turbo diesel, front and rear diff lockers, and a removable top and windshield... I'd camp out in front of the dealership to be the first one to own one of those...

If Ford were to read this and pick one thing for the new Ranger 2 solid axles is number 1 on my list, then a 4 cylinder turbo diesel...

[bmacsys]

I'd like to see a four door model, a turbo Diesel or a V8, and a straight axle...

But it's unlikely

The solid axle is high on everybody's wish list.

[rangerbert]

why does everyone want a diesel. diesel costs more to buy than gas. An average of a dollar or more even now as the price of gas has come down diesel still costs a dollar more a gallon.

[Beanmachine7000]

Why I want a diesel?

1.) Fuel mileage
2.) More torque, and at a more usable RPM
3.) Reliability (I once heard someone say "Alot of things have to go right for a gasoline engine to start, alot of things have to go WRONG for a diesel engine to NOT start")
4.) Longevity (I've seen many 300k mile diesel engines still running and in great shape)
5.) WVO/WMO/Biodiesel, can you make your own gasoline? If you're stuck without gas, you're outta luck... A diesel will run on MOST anything that burns... I've heard of ATF/WMO/WVO... I'm probably forgetting stuff too...

[BDAB]

I want to see a crew cab long bed turbo diesel............ Basically a Ranger version of a super duty...... with out it looking like a super duty.

[exbass94]

Although I absolutely love the way the Ranger looks now and don't know how it could possibly be better, I think it's time to retire the 1993 cab and bed and start fresh. I would like to see a more fuel-efficient v6 and a 4wd option for the 4 cyl. I don't think it really needs anything else.

[svtranger04]

i would love to see a 4cyl turbo diesel, just because nobody else offers one in there small trucks.

why diesel.....cuz this guy i talk to at work normally gets 41mpg city in his TDI jetta! yes this is a car but still it would be awesome to get that in my truck.
2nd power, i dont pull alot but i want the option to take my pop up camper through the rocky mountains and tow it doing the speed limit! I want to be able to pull my boat out of the nastiest boat ramps, and to pull broken chbbies.

And i want to use my own fuel! diesel's will burn just about anything from gasoline (yes they will) to the liquid part of asphalt, called Bunker C or Heavy F.O.

Solid axles and 4 doors ok i wouldn't want them seeing as i am not an offroad junky, but it would be a good option to have if i wanted my new ranger equipped with them.

[grey ghost]

i'd really wish they would make a true four door and the diesel motor would be a bonus :icon_thumby:

[86_cookiemonster]

I'd like to see a four door model, a turbo Diesel, a V8, and a straight axle...

But it's unlikely

I fixed that for you. :)

I would also like to see the body styling go along the lines of the f-150, maybe go along with the raptor body styling.

Maybe widen the truck by a couple of inches.

[chico4554]

diesel diesel diesel

[bikerboy]

5.0. nuff said

[pacodiablo]

The way things are looking, we will get a global Ranger designed by Ford of Australia. I just hope it is actually the work of Ford and not Mazda. I don't have anything against Mazda, but like I said in another thread, if I'm going to buy a Ford truck, it better be an actual Ford.

This is just my best guess, but I think the next Ranger will have a Duratec 3.5 and an EcoBoost 4 banger as the engine options. A SFA is pretty much out of the question...the next Ranger will most likely continue to use an IFS setup for 2 and 4WDs.

If it was up to me, the next Ranger would be an American designed and built truck with a SFA for 4WDs and coil spring IFS for 2WDs. The 3.5 would be the V6 option, along with an EcoBoost engine and a conventional NA four banger. The auto transmission would be the 6-speed from the Explorer, and there would be a 6-speed manual option.

[thegoat4]

Not just the ranger, but all across the truck and van line

Diesel, gas, and natural gas motors
Standardized bell housings
Optional dual fuel tanks
Built-in support for a brake controller and a real hitch
The option of a higher load rating without having to go up to the next size truck--heavier rims, axles, brakes; lower gears
EV Ranger
Non-stupid options package restrictions

What would be really nice would be the ability to custom-configure a truck from the factory just like commercial vehicles. You choose the engine, horsepower, transmission, axle rating, gear ratio, 2wd/4wd, transfer case, whether it comes with a bed, how long of a bed, two door/four door, interior, optional passenger seat. Shit, make it the same as the overseas offering and you can even choose right or left-handed steer. Might seem useless in the US, but I'll bet the post office would be all over right-handed EV and LPG rangers with rubberized interiors and custom beds. Maybe even a few with 4wd.

I understand that level of customization isn't practical with mass production, but the way the auto market has been diving, there really isn't going to be a whole lot of mass production in the near future. As production slows down it becomes more practical to offer more options. For the next generation or two at least people are going to be looking for practicality and utility over almost anything else. So if your options boil down to a truck that allows you to get almost exactly what you want vs. a cookie-cutter with a trim option, the custom truck will win--especially if a good deal of that customization is stripping away things you don't need and lowering the cost to buy it.

[turtle3.0]

1. 4 REAL doors as an option
2. Engine options
Standard - fuel efficient dohc v6 (maybe 3.5)
Optional - small deisel (100-150 hp, 220+ fpt)
Optional - small v8 (lightning bolt anybody?)
3. 4 wheel disk brakes STANDARD
4. 8.8 standard
Optional L/S

[Beanmachine7000]

Not just the ranger, but all across the truck and van line

Diesel, gas, and natural gas motors
Standardized bell housings
Optional dual fuel tanks
Built-in support for a brake controller and a real hitch
The option of a higher load rating without having to go up to the next size truck--heavier rims, axles, brakes; lower gears
EV Ranger
Non-stupid options package restrictions

What would be really nice would be the ability to custom-configure a truck from the factory just like commercial vehicles. You choose the engine, horsepower, transmission, axle rating, gear ratio, 2wd/4wd, transfer case, whether it comes with a bed, how long of a bed, two door/four door, interior, optional passenger seat. Shit, make it the same as the overseas offering and you can even choose right or left-handed steer. Might seem useless in the US, but I'll bet the post office would be all over right-handed EV and LPG rangers with rubberized interiors and custom beds. Maybe even a few with 4wd.

I understand that level of customization isn't practical with mass production, but the way the auto market has been diving, there really isn't going to be a whole lot of mass production in the near future. As production slows down it becomes more practical to offer more options. For the next generation or two at least people are going to be looking for practicality and utility over almost anything else. So if your options boil down to a truck that allows you to get almost exactly what you want vs. a cookie-cutter with a trim option, the custom truck will win--especially if a good deal of that customization is stripping away things you don't need and lowering the cost to buy it.

If you notice on overseas Ford websites, the Ranger is a commercial vehicle... I wouldn't mind waiting a little longer, and paying a surcharge for them to build specifically what I want... To me, it would be worth a month or so's wait and $500-1000 extra to get a small diesel, manual everything heavy duty axles, and stuff...

[cappin90]

id want a straight axle or back to the ttb D35, and a small v-8 a 4.6 would be plenty

[bmacsys]

1. 4 REAL doors as an option
2. Engine options
Standard - fuel efficient dohc v6 (maybe 3.5)
Optional - small deisel (100-150 hp, 220+ fpt)
Optional - small v8 (lightning bolt anybody?)
3. 4 wheel disk brakes STANDARD
4. 8.8 standard
Optional L/S

I can't believe they still have rear drum brakes in this day and age. To me thats pathetic.

[RangerRock]

Get that 2.8L Powerstroke over here to the US from england.
3.0L or 3.5L Duratec V6, and 2.3L Duratec I4
Persoannly i love the current design, but 1 pull a mustang residesign, and buils a retro Ranger paying homage to the 83-88 style [i know just dreaming the Gen 1 rangers and the current Gen are my favorite body styles]

But for a real world design id say build it tougher, stronger, more aerodynamic. Baisially good power, good milage.

[ex91]

no rear disk stay drum rear disk may stop better but cause a lotof problems in canada and on dirt roads stay with rear drum its a must

[bmacsys]

no rear disk stay drum rear disk may stop better but cause a lotof problems in canada and on dirt roads stay with rear drum its a must

Most every pick up truck sold today has disc brakes all the way around. Every full size does afaik. I don't get it?

[JaBradt85]

Most every pick up truck sold today has disc brakes all the way around. Every full size does afaik. I don't get it?

I believe that the silverados and colorados still have drums in the rear.

[turtle3.0]

no rear disk stay drum rear disk may stop better but cause a lotof problems in canada and on dirt roads stay with rear drum its a must

What problems? So does that cause problems with the fronts. If so it must suck for you.

[bmacsys]

I believe that the silverados and colorados still have drums in the rear.

Another reason to avoid GM products. Even my 2003 Dodge XLT Sport had disc brakes all the way around. In fact I liked that truck. Not as much as my Ford's but all in all it wasn't a bad machine.

[pacodiablo]

GM went to rear discs for a while on their full size trucks, but they never could get the parking brakes to last, and there were some other problems too IIRC. Around 2004-2005 they changed back to drums.

Personally, I'd rather have rear discs, but the drums work well enough.

[85_Ranger4x4]

Why I want a diesel?

1.) Fuel mileage
2.) More torque, and at a more usable RPM
3.) Reliability (I once heard someone say "Alot of things have to go right for a gasoline engine to start, alot of things have to go WRONG for a diesel engine to NOT start")
4.) Longevity (I've seen many 300k mile diesel engines still running and in great shape)
5.) WVO/WMO/Biodiesel, can you make your own gasoline? If you're stuck without gas, you're outta luck... A diesel will run on MOST anything that burns... I've heard of ATF/WMO/WVO... I'm probably forgetting stuff too...

With all the electrical crap needed to get a diesel past emissions, they have just as much stuff if not more to go wrong than a gasoline engine.

Forget running ATF/WMO/WVO through a modern diesel as well.

[Planemech]

Fully boxed frame, a couple inches wider like the larger sport trac, a 6ft box with a crew cab, 6 speed auto and manual transmissions, the 31 spline 8.8 in every truck, the Torsen diff as the LS and the 3.0 I4 PSD as an option.

A crew cab 6 ft box, 6 spd auto, 3.0 PSD 4x4 with 3.73's/4.10's and a Torsen differential in XLT trim would sell like crazy and be perfect for me. Oh and get like 28-30 mpg too if the European results have any bearing.

[JaBradt85]

Fully boxed frame, a couple inches wider like the larger sport trac, a 6ft box with a crew cab, 6 speed auto and manual transmissions, the 31 spline 8.8 in every truck, the Torsen diff as the LS and the 3.0 I4 PSD as an option.

A crew cab 6 ft box, 6 spd auto, 3.0 PSD 4x4 with 3.73's/4.10's and a Torsen differential in XLT trim would sell like crazy and be perfect for me. Oh and get like 28-30 mpg too if the European results have any bearing.

I highly doubt a small diesel but the other parts sound about right. Im pretty sure it will remain the same in most ways though which wouldnt be a bad thing. I get teased about having a small truck a girly truck what have you, but I say it suits my needs for a truck and Im not compensating like some. Make the ranger bigger keep it the same it wont matter Im on my third one so they must be doing something right to keep so many loyal fans.

[fixizin]

I'd like a lighter stronger Ranger made of stainless steel and anodized aluminum (and carbon fiber) w/ the 2.3 "Lima" TURBO w/ cockpit-adjustable boost and the option of full-time AWD, plus lockers when in 4LO, and an M5R2 with the correct gears and synchros to handle up to 400HP/400 ft lbs... this is actually what the small truck world needs... yepper. :icon_thumby:


PS: Sounds like over half you guys actually want an F-150, but would feel better if the badges said "Ranger", lol.

I mean really, some of these desired combos with the crew cab + 4 big doors + long bed + 4WD + SFA + diesel + wet bar + missile defense + useless mushbox auto trans, are gonna have a curb wt. of 6,400+ lbs. :shok: Good luck with the MPGs on that rig.

[Planemech]

Apparently you haven't seen the European, Central and South American or Australian/Asian Rangers then. Nor noticed that auto trannys are rated higher in towing than manual trannys.

[Simple_serf]

Even a crappy 80's type na diesel would make some of us happy. Gas is still around $2/gallon here.

Get rid of the damn drums... Mine have been rebuilt, and rebuilt, and then rebuilt a few more times again (twice by me, 3 times by three separate shops), and they still lock, squeal, bang and grab. I know that disc parking brakes suck (my dad's 01 f150 has had constant problems with the pb, but nothing that a block of wood behind the tire doesn't fix)

[badbronc92]

I don't care so much about the 4 doors as I do the wider stance. Give it more stability and the ability to fit a 4.6L V8 and maybe those turbo V6s they are talking about for the "F100." I think if they change it too much it's going to turn off a lot of old ranger drivers. One thing that is a MUST is getting rid of the Torsion bar front suspension. It doesn't necessarily have to go to a solid front but keep it simpler and sturdier. More like the 04-Up F150s front suspension. With just a couple of tweaks and a slightly higher/wider stance, i think a lot of new drivers would turn to the ranger market.

[jasonl]

If Ford updates it before they bring a "global" version over (if they ever do)I think they will do a moderate face lift and change the powertrain. As pacodiablo said I think you will see the 4cyl EcoBoost and one of the current 3.5 or 3.7 V-6 offered with a 6speed tranny. The eco boost is said to give diesel like torque curve and great fuel economy. I have read the 4cyl should be rated atleast 250hp. Imagine a more powerful Ranger getting 20 city 27 Hwy in 4x4 ext cab. I think this alone would ignite sales. The current truck is rated at 14city 18hwy is sad. An F-150 that is way bigger and heavier actually gets better fuel economy. I like the current size as it has remained about the only compact truck left. It wouldn't hurt my feelings if the stretched the cab 6 inches or so. A 4door probably won't happen unless they kill the Sport Trac.

[RacinNdrummin]

Lets get serious here-

Solid axle will never happen.

4 door most certainly will, but why??? I would never drive one, If I wanted four doors, I would buy an explorer or a car, I have no need for a 2.5 ft bed, not to mention it looks goofy.

Why a 6 speed manual??? There is no point, the 5 speed does the job just fine, The auto already exists, so why not, but a 6 speed manual is unecessary.

Keep the SOHC 4.0, its got plenty of life left in it. Maybe build a DOHC version for both the mustang and ranger to compete with the toyota powerplants.

Even though I would love a diesel, most of the american public doesnt really care for them, they would rather have a hybrid, so put the escape setup in the ranger and have the first compact hybrid truck.

The duratec is fine and would be a good transition engine into the ecoboost.

Put disc brakes on all 4 corners, it would be easily done with parts they have on the shelf.

Offer a lifted 4x4 from the factory with nice wheels and tires- it would sell like hotcakes.

Offer a Base base model for an uber low price (under 10k msrp). would be good for business and gov. too (think crown vic)

Make financing easier, Id go out and get a new truck tomorrow if they'd finance me, but bacuse I have a few late credit card payments from 2 years ago, Yet 5 years of good truck payments and the money to do so, they still wont finance me. If they can get loans from the gov. so easily, why shouldnt I be able to get a loan through them.

First and Foremost make it look tough and not like it came off of a spacecraft.

[Beanmachine7000]

Lets get serious here-

Solid axle will never happen.

4 door most certainly will, but why??? I would never drive one, If I wanted four doors, I would buy an explorer or a car, I have no need for a 2.5 ft bed, not to mention it looks goofy.

Why a 6 speed manual??? There is no point, the 5 speed does the job just fine, The auto already exists, so why not, but a 6 speed manual is unecessary.

Keep the SOHC 4.0, its got plenty of life left in it. Maybe build a DOHC version for both the mustang and ranger to compete with the toyota powerplants.

Even though I would love a diesel, most of the american public doesnt really care for them, they would rather have a hybrid, so put the escape setup in the ranger and have the first compact hybrid truck.

The duratec is fine and would be a good transition engine into the ecoboost.

Put disc brakes on all 4 corners, it would be easily done with parts they have on the shelf.

Offer a lifted 4x4 from the factory with nice wheels and tires- it would sell like hotcakes.

Offer a Base base model for an uber low price (under 10k msrp). would be good for business and gov. too (think crown vic)

Make financing easier, Id go out and get a new truck tomorrow if they'd finance me, but bacuse I have a few late credit card payments from 2 years ago, Yet 5 years of good truck payments and the money to do so, they still wont finance me. If they can get loans from the gov. so easily, why shouldnt I be able to get a loan through them.

First and Foremost make it look tough and not like it came off of a spacecraft.

Solid axle will never happen, unless Ford decides to give the Wrangler some competition (I'm dreaming new Bronco here :), but on a Ranger... I highly doubt it too...

I highly doubt 4 doors will happen as long as Ford has the Sportrac (I don't care for a 4-door truck either)

I could see a 6-speed manual behind one of the optional more powerful engines (to reduce emissions at highway speed), I don't think a 4 banger would have the low end torque for a 6-speed tranny...

The diesel option I think we could see before a 4-door Ranger... The American population is just starting to warm up to diesel power, look at all the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks with diesels, I have seen more and more of the VW diesels around, I don't think a small diesel in a Ranger is that far out of the question, maybe not next year, but in 4-5 years I think we could see it...

I think an FX4 Level II with maybe 3" of lift and some 31" AT's, with a rear locker, and manual transfer case would sell really well...

My first Ranger was a 1990 Ranger with nothing... no power steering, no A/C (dealer added), manual tranny, 2.3, it had an AM ONLY radio, rubber floors, no head rests, it wasn't even an XL model... If they offered one of those with 4x4, I would buy 3 of them... That way I'd have spares, lol...

[jasonl]

I was refering to a 6 speed auto since this seems to be the future of Ford. 6 speed manual would be an unnecissary cost. The current 4.0 SOHC as mentioned gets a rated 14/18mpg in 4x4 ext cab so it would be foolish to keep it around unless they can find a way to squeeze some serious mpg's out of it. Plus the current 3.0 duratech in the escape or the 3.5 would give better fuel economy and hp. I want the 4cyl Ecoboost myself. If it puts out 250hp and get's mileage comparable to the current 2wd ranger I will be in line. For a lot of us the days of averaging 16mpg in a "new" vehicle are long gone.

[Beanmachine7000]

I don't see why a 6-speed manual would be an unnecessary cost... If anything I could see a 6-speed auto being unnecessary... I think everyone is going to be going to 6-speeds soon enough... You don't see any 4-speeds around anymore do you? I think in the base model with the 4 cylinder Ecoboost, Ford should give the option of a 5-speed manual or 5-speed auto, and with the optional engines, the 6-speed manual, and 5-speed auto... It only makes sense to help with the emissions restrictions... Plus, I think they would have to design a completely new tranny to get 6-speeds from an auto...

[jasonl]

I was thinking along the lines of using the same 6 speed auto tranny in the Explorer/Sport Trac. I know it is used with the V-8, but a different bell housing should be all that's needed. It would be over built for the smaller V-6, but that isn't a bad thing.

[Beanmachine7000]

Shows how much I know about new cars... Honestly though, I couldn't care less about an auto transmission... As long as Ford keeps a manual option, I'm happy...

[jasonl]

Oh I agree 100% definately need to keep a manual tranny.

[nels1954]

I just bought my 2008 Ranger. I am a previous owner of a 1999 F150 XLT 4X4 looking for better gas milage. I bought the Ranger XLT 4 cylinder 5 speed rear wheel drive. Would of bought the 4X4 Ranger if it came with the 4 cylinder engine. Ford should offer the 4 cylinder engine in the 4X4.

[DSFD505]

I just bought my 2008 Ranger. I am a previous owner of a 1999 F150 XLT 4X4 looking for better gas milage. I bought the Ranger XLT 4 cylinder 5 speed rear wheel drive. Would of bought the 4X4 Ranger if it came with the 4 cylinder engine. Ford should offer the 4 cylinder engine in the 4X4.

2008 is the last year you could get a reg cab with 4wd and 4.0L. Now you have to get an ext cab model so I don't think Ford has any plans for a 4 cyl 4x4.

[prefab08]

diesel, regular cab 4x4, heavy spec front diff like a 8.8 ifs cause we all know a solid is out of the question, drum rear brakes with the option of disk cause canadian winters with the salt and -35c kills rear disks. oh and a good set of bucket seats hell i had to rob a mustang set of buckets for my 2008 just so i can sit right in it.

[jasonl]

According to fueleconomy.gov , my 1996 while not as powerful, got 15/20mpg under the new standard. Where as the current Ranger 4x4 gets 14/18. Hmmm, wonder why small trucks don't sell??? I saw a article on pickuptrucks.com that has the 2010 ranger with safety updates like roll stability control, side air bags, but it makes no mention of an updated 3.5v6 or any other powertrain news. FYI the old 4cyl 4x4 (I believe was only available as a reg cab) was rated at 18/23mpg. I really wish Ford would just update the powertrain and keep the price down and let the Ranger live on. Look at the imediate success the Focus had with a minor face lift and some modern feature updates for 2008.

[rusty ol ranger]

My 08 Colorado has drums in the back.

What id like to see...

First the unrealistic list...

A Carbuated option of a 351W H.O with a T18 4sp, 4.11 gears, and 2 solid axles.

A 300 I6 Option for a "W/T" package like chevy offeres, with no options but air and cruise

Real Body panels you can lean against and not dent, rubber floors, vynil seats, and a 9 inch rear end.

later,
Dustin

[Will]

I want the new Ranger like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYl7QlaZAI)

[Maverick]

I want the new Ranger like this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYl7QlaZAI)

You want a Ranger with no windshield that can drive down a dirt road :icon_confused:

[Will]

I was poking fun at Dustin for his VTec sig. This is the truck (http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/2008/163_news081124_honda_ridgeline_gets_first_place_fo r_stock_mini_class_in_2008_tecate_baja_1000/index.html) in that video. Here (http://www.fourwheeler.com/featuredvehicles/129_0605_desert_race__honda_ridgelin/index.html) is more about it.

It's not just poking fun, it's also saying that the future isn't what old hardheads want, but it isn't bad either. This is a mostly stock vehicle that can thrive in a punishing environment. I would love to see a Ranger modernized like this. I would love to see Ford finally put their best effort forward instead of selling us recycled junk.

[rusty ol ranger]

I wonder how much stock ridgeline shit is actually on that truck....i didnt watch the video cause my interent is running slow tonight, but, i do remember a magazine article i read about the ridgeline one time where the editor drove it down a washboard road at 35MPH and broke all 4 strut mounts.

Give me TTB anyday.

later,
Dustin

[bobsleder251]

how about ford just miniaturizes this truck: f 150 raptor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pBSto378NU)

[bobbywalter]

how about ford just miniaturizes this truck: f 150 raptor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pBSto378NU)



yeah!.......:icon_thumby:



with a carb 351 for rusty...he wont mind being left behind:thefinger:

[Will]

I wonder how much stock ridgeline shit is actually on that truck....i didnt watch the video cause my interent is running slow tonight, but, i do remember a magazine article i read about the ridgeline one time where the editor drove it down a washboard road at 35MPH and broke all 4 strut mounts.

Give me TTB anyday.

later,
Dustin

Read the article in the second link. It tells you what is stock. The guys they hred to build the truck said the frame didn't need the cage for strength--they only used it because the safety rules required it. The engine is stock with the exhaust being the only change. They locked 4th and 5th out. It runs 105mph in 3rd gear down that road. They left the suspension stock but replaced the struts with custom built things with larger pistons inside the stock housings for the heat. They kept all of the electronic drivetrain control intact. It's basically a stock Ridgeline. The motor sounds great--exactly what the 3.5 Ford is going to be after they shove the old crappy stuff out.

[Nipplechops]

I was poking fun at Dustin for his VTec sig. This is the truck (http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/2008/163_news081124_honda_ridgeline_gets_first_place_fo r_stock_mini_class_in_2008_tecate_baja_1000/index.html) in that video. Here (http://www.fourwheeler.com/featuredvehicles/129_0605_desert_race__honda_ridgelin/index.html) is more about it.



:shok:

That thing is bitchin'! Good read! :beer:

[Beanmachine7000]

My 08 Colorado has drums in the back.

What id like to see...

First the unrealistic list...

A Carbuated option of a 351W H.O with a T18 4sp, 4.11 gears, and 2 solid axles.

A 300 I6 Option for a "W/T" package like chevy offeres, with no options but air and cruise

Real Body panels you can lean against and not dent, rubber floors, vynil seats, and a 9 inch rear end.

later,
Dustin


I like the W/T idea, I was thinking something along the lines of that, like a Ranger with heavy duty drivetrain (4-cyl turbo diesel (i'd even take that turbo 4/6-gasser), front and rear 31 spl 8.8", 5-speed) and no options, except A/C... I'd buy one... I'd buy two if they offered a small SUV like that... A Ranger and Bronco, both 4-popper turbo diesel (turbo 4/6-banger gas, whatever), manual tranny and t-case, rear 31spl 8.8", IFS(if it's a 8.8"), and A/C, both white, with gray vinyl interior and rubber floors, and all metal exterior... I need something I can beat up and not feel bad about it... Instead I guess I'm just gonna have to build my own :(

[Will]

I like the W/T idea, I was thinking something along the lines of that, like a Ranger with heavy duty drivetrain (4-cyl turbo diesel (i'd even take that turbo 4/6-gasser), front and rear 31 spl 8.8", 5-speed) and no options, except A/C... I'd buy one... I'd buy two if they offered a small SUV like that... A Ranger and Bronco, both 4-popper turbo diesel (turbo 4/6-banger gas, whatever), manual tranny and t-case, rear 31spl 8.8", IFS(if it's a 8.8"), and A/C, both white, with gray vinyl interior and rubber floors, and all metal exterior... I need something I can beat up and not feel bad about it... Instead I guess I'm just gonna have to build my own :(

How about GM's 2 liter VVT direct injection turbocharged gasoline motor (http://www.saturnfans.com/Cars/Powertrains/ecotecditurbo.shtml)? 20psi of boost. 250hp out of 122cid? And there's no problem with low-end torque. There's the future. Mazda has had this in production for a couple of years too.

http://therangerstation.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1530&stc=1&d=1234874489

[Beanmachine7000]

Is that the turbo Ecotec that is in the Cobalt SS? Those things are wicked fast...

[Beanmachine7000]

I just read that article, and wow... Just amazing... I wouldn't mind having something like that in a new Ranger :D

[aridranger03]

I just bought my 2008 Ranger. I am a previous owner of a 1999 F150 XLT 4X4 looking for better gas milage. I bought the Ranger XLT 4 cylinder 5 speed rear wheel drive. Would of bought the 4X4 Ranger if it came with the 4 cylinder engine. Ford should offer the 4 cylinder engine in the 4X4.

my dad just bought a 1999 F-150 XLT here in TN.I agree with you the ranger should be offered in a 4cyl/4wd like toyota has

[RangerFuss]

in Fords ecoboost engines, theyre turbocharged right?

wouldnt this eliminate the ability to tow heavy things behind a ranger with a 4 cyl ecoboost?

[Beanmachine7000]

Why? What's the difference in a turbocharged Ranger, and a turbocharged semi-tractor? Except displacement and possibly fuel type...

[midget]

DOHC V8 and 6 speed and 4x4.... Id buy one lol that damn ram truck could eat its heart out lol. I'm not a big fan of new Rangers though the last ones I liked were the old square style similar to the bronco 2s whatever generation that was.

[midget]

in Fords ecoboost engines, theyre turbocharged right?

wouldnt this eliminate the ability to tow heavy things behind a ranger with a 4 cyl ecoboost?

Pretty much every good diesel engine has at least 1 turbo some of the newer semis use 2 turbos but there not as good as the pre-emisions engines.

[Will]

in Fords ecoboost engines, theyre turbocharged right?

wouldnt this eliminate the ability to tow heavy things behind a ranger with a 4 cyl ecoboost?

Are you talking about detonation that occurs in gasoline motors? In gas motors the fuel isn't as stable so you can have it go off before you are ready while under heavy load. This is mainly because you are compressing the fuel with the air. Diesel fuel is much more stable since it is thin oil, and diesel injects the fuel after the air is compressed. So more the merrier when you turbocharge a diesel--the strength of the engine is the limiting factory if you aren't worried about emissions. You can keep putting in fuel as long as you have enough air coming in to burn the fuel in. The gasoline motor has the limit of too much compression setting the fuel off before you are ready. There are tricks to being able to run more compression--or more boost--but it's not something you can make a whole lot of power on and be reliable with heavy duty cycles.

But, as I earlier pointed out, direct injection gasoline motors are here. Running 25psi of boost on an engine that is reliable enough for manufacture and meets the EPA requirements is, well, sick. Think of what the tuners are going to do with that thing...

[akalogan]

4cyl t/diesel, the ablity to mount 285/75r16 and 4doors and a long bed. I want a offroad worthy work truck...

[AKBroncoII]

Just a diesel engine is all I ask. Without a 5K above the gasser truck price. No way I'd care to go buy a new truck and offroad it anyways. Smooth, quiet interior, good power, good tow package. 4 door would be okay, but it seems as though it would take bed space away so I don't really care one way or the other.

[km_ranger_owner]

I would definently would like to see a Ford Ranger with a 4-cyl. diesel engine and an extended cab. It would just be a minitiature version of the Power Strokes, or a "mini Stroke."

[Orlando1701]

I'd say replace the 2.3 and 3.0 with a Turbo Desle and keep the 4.0 for the go fast guys.

[Chappy]

I'd say replace the 2.3 and 3.0 with a Turbo Desle and keep the 4.0 for the go fast guys.

you have it backwards biggin, 2.3 and 3.0 for gasser guys, and a 4.5 TD for the go fast guys (cough qsb cough)

:icon_hornsup:

[Beanmachine7000]

you have it backwards biggin, 2.3 and 3.0 for gasser guys, and a 4.5 TD for the go fast guys (cough qsb cough)

:icon_hornsup:

I think the 3.0 Duratorq (154hp/280lb/ft) is plenty for a small truck... Besides, a gas engine will usually make a better racer than any diesel (except Audi, and their diesel racecars) Though, I wouldn't mind seeing a 3.5l or so Cummins TD in my new Ranger, but that ain't happening :sad:

[militarydave]

Since ford is trying to go Retro.... in trying to bring back the old styles of the mustang, gran torino, fiesta, etc.... hell why not go old school, and make:

1. a diesel option.
2. true 4 door crew cab
3. 6spd manual, and possibly an automatic
4. made in usa (or if built by Mexicans thats fine with me!)
5. have the new, refined looks, but an updated version of the Generation 1 or Gen. 2 Ranger Looks.

and of course a bronco2 variant as one suggested.

also.... Bring back the full size bronco!

-dave

[Will]

Besides, a gas engine will usually make a better racer than any diesel...

Where have you been? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCtShMtfCUA)

Notice that you can't hear the diesel. And that it isn't putting out any smoke. He's just driving down the track like it's a sunny day out.

[Beanmachine7000]

I know a diesel can be made wicked fast... I've seen some 3/4 and 1 ton trucks whoop up on sports cars... To the average, home tinkerer gasoline engines are USUALLY easier and have more aftermarket parts to mod... That's all I'm saying... If I was building a go fast buggy it'd definitely be a gasser, lighter weight, high revver...

[98mazdaman]

Why not make a 1ton ranger, like toyota used to make with the old pickup? Just an idea.

[jdc215]

id first like to see two solid axles
second either a good strait six or small turbo diesel motor. both have been known to hav very long lives
third coils up front, torsion bars dont flex for shit.
finally reintroduce a manual trans with the optional motors, automatics suck!

[crazy2.9l]

I just got back from the Ford Dealer tonight and took a new 09 Ranger out with a 4.0l 5speed 4x4 gotta say im pretty shure i want to buy it. What really pisses me off is Ford no longer offering a reg cab 4x4 long box ranger or a short box reg cab Ranger in 4x4. All reg cab rangers are 2drives. My first gen is reg cab long box 4x4 and i love haveing the 7ft box. I agree with the idea of adding the option of diesel i would buy it, before a 4.0l Ranger but hey the 4.0l will be cheaper on gas then my 5.8l in my F-150

[chipper6]

Just read this on Ford.com Heres the LINK (http://www.ford.com/about-ford/news-announcements/press-releases/press-releases-detail/pr-a-new-era-dawns-for-ford-with-30386)

Amidst the "others" bankruptcies they are re-opening a engine plant

Ford will deliver EcoBoost across the full range of its product portfolio, from small cars to large trucks and by 2013, will offer EcoBoost engines, V-6s and I-4s, on 90 percent of its North American nameplates. Within three years, Ford expects to deliver 750,000 EcoBoost-equipped vehicles per year in North America and 1.3 million vehicles globally.

The 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 engine delivers 355 horsepower and a responsive 350 ft.-lb. of torque across a broad RPM range.

Long live the Turbo 2.3! .... and a twin turbo V6 for the power hungry. :D

[darkspork]

why does everyone want a diesel. diesel costs more to buy than gas. An average of a dollar or more even now as the price of gas has come down diesel still costs a dollar more a gallon.

Around here Diesel = $2.36/gal vs 87 octane gasoline = $2.69/gal.
Diesel has been about 30 cents/gallon cheaper than gasoline for about a month now, at least around here. But why a diesel?
1. Better fuel economy, or at least more power for the same fuel economy
2. Built to take more of a beating due to need to be able to handle much higher compression. Most diesels will still be ticking twice as long as its gasoline counterpart.
3. Longer maintenance intervals (although maintenance when required is generally more costly).

I really like diesels. I've used the V10 F350 at work and it would just burn through gas, whereas the F250 PSD still ate diesel, but not quite as quickly, but the PSD also makes a lot more power. Plus, the sound of the turbo whining is pretty sweet. The F250 PSD at WOT is probably one of my favorite truck sounds.

[85_Ranger4x4]

Diesels are built heavier to not self destruct, if they were not built the way they are they would break. Everybody says they are overbuilt to stand the higher compression and knocking... well they have to be or else they couldn't stand it.

Modern gas engines are very capible of outliving their host vehicle anyway... if not it is due to lack of maintenance or abuse, which will also kill a diesel just as fast.

Hanging a turbo (or two) on a direct injected gas engine will wake it up similar to when they they did it to diesels. At least on paper (I haven't driven a diesel or ecoboost car yet) I would pick the ecoboost, they put out outragous numbers.

I used to have a turbocharged car, a 200hp 2.0 that got 30 mpg was fun, and I don't think it redlined until 7-8k rpm...

[BlackSTX]

Well, as it's been reported, it will be slightly larger, but I'm hoping we get more than a 175 hp eco-boost engine. I'd like to see something in the range of a 250 hp 2.5L if not a small V6 or a diesel option.
If they were also smart, they'd scrap the idea of turning the Explorer into another unibody crossover and use the Ranger platform to create a new Explorer with a similar purpose to the Nissan Xterra. Then make it available in a simple shortened wheelbase 2 door vehicle without all the bells and whistles and call it a Bronco.

[dhdaniel]

wow, I'd just settle for better cupholders...

[rusty ol ranger]

Screw diesels, screw the ecoboost engines.

I would love to see the Ranger come with a big ol slow revving chug a luggin I6 or Big Block V8 with a nice big 4bbl and a 4sp.

later,
Dustin

[darkspork]

Diesels are built heavier to not self destruct, if they were not built the way they are they would break. Everybody says they are overbuilt to stand the higher compression and knocking... well they have to be or else they couldn't stand it.

Modern gas engines are very capible of outliving their host vehicle anyway... if not it is due to lack of maintenance or abuse, which will also kill a diesel just as fast.

Hanging a turbo (or two) on a direct injected gas engine will wake it up similar to when they they did it to diesels. At least on paper (I haven't driven a diesel or ecoboost car yet) I would pick the ecoboost, they put out outragous numbers.

I used to have a turbocharged car, a 200hp 2.0 that got 30 mpg was fun, and I don't think it redlined until 7-8k rpm...

I'm not disagreeing at all with you about diesels being built heavier in order to not self destruct. I just happen to be a fan of diesels. Almost every diesel I've driven makes a ton of torque and a sweet sound (especially Ford's new Powerstroke Diesel). Plus they are generally a lot more efficient than their gasoline counterparts (v10 superduty vs. psd superduty, i5 jetta vs tdi jetta, v8 Hemi Ram vs. Cummins diesel Ram, bmw 335i vs bmw 335d). The only problem a diesel has ever given me is the fuel gelled up once while left in the cold. As for turbocharged gasoline cars, I've driven my buddy's turbo'd RSX-S, its knocking hard, definitely seen better days, but it was pretty damn quick when he first got it, that and I test drove a Volvo C30 which was pretty nice. In any event, I would still really like to own a small diesel pickup or car.

[85_Ranger4x4]

I'm not disagreeing at all with you about diesels being built heavier in order to not self destruct. I just happen to be a fan of diesels. Almost every diesel I've driven makes a ton of torque and a sweet sound (especially Ford's new Powerstroke Diesel). Plus they are generally a lot more efficient than their gasoline counterparts (v10 superduty vs. psd superduty, i5 jetta vs tdi jetta, v8 Hemi Ram vs. Cummins diesel Ram, bmw 335i vs bmw 335d). The only problem a diesel has ever given me is the fuel gelled up once while left in the cold. As for turbocharged gasoline cars, I've driven my buddy's turbo'd RSX-S, its knocking hard, definitely seen better days, but it was pretty damn quick when he first got it, that and I test drove a Volvo C30 which was pretty nice. In any event, I would still really like to own a small diesel pickup or car.

Ford 6.4 gets about the same milage as a V-10, although it does make more power. Really I don't care much for the sound of the 6.4, I prefer the rattling knock of a 7.3...

The car I had was a 1990 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo, a rebadged Mitsubishi Eclipse. I dunno what all had been done to the engine but it had 130k when I got it and 170k when I sold it, and it didn't miss a beat. Never opened the engine up. After it sat for in the college parking lot for a week at a time it had a lifter that would tick until it built pressure back up... but that was it. I sold it to get my F-150, I would love to get another one someday...

[bullitproofranger]

I had designed what I would want the new ranger to look like on paper once, It's styling would very strongly resemble a new f-150, just smaller

[willied]

I had designed what I would want the new ranger to look like on paper once, It's styling would very strongly resemble a new f-150, just smaller

That's what I was thinking it should be like. I don't love all aspects of the new F-150, but it looks better than its competition.

[motox04]

I would like to see the Eco Boost engines and 4 wheel ids with coil over shock long travel suspension. I'm not a big fan of the solid axles unless it is being used for hauling around really heavy loads, which the Ranger isn't designed for anyway. Think about it you could run 31 inch tires and have more true ground clearance than a solid axle with 35's. Plus it would ride a heck of a lot better.

[backslash18]

What would I want them to change about the Ranger?
Eh, this about covers it...

http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/stories/lightningbolt/page1.html

:shok:

[Frank The Tank]

I miss my diesel sometimes.... no gas engine could every out tow it. but I was extremely power hungry, took my 4x4 dually from 26mpg (with a mild hybrid turbo, 100hp injectors, 150gph fuel pump, edge timing)
to an unreliable 65psi boost, fuel guzzling, smoke at every light tire shredding brute... and for what? so i could sell it at a loss, I'm scared to get another diesel and get the torque bug again, I better stick with gassers till I hit the lotto!!! but a turbo 2.3 would be so awesome, I'd buy one, or two!!! if it was backed by a 5spd, 4x4 ext cab.


Frank

[gremlin982003]

That's what I was thinking it should be like. I don't love all aspects of the new F-150, but it looks better than its competition.

Personally I dont really like the new F-150's that much other than the easy access steps they built into them. The 08 Ranger is also nice, but I think they should try a different angle on the styling of the '10 Ranger.

[BlackSTX]

As far as newer Ford vehicles that could be used for inspiration for styling, these are a couple current/future offerings that would make for a decent looking future Ranger...
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future/9505662+pheader/112_0512_future_expl01_l.jpg
Current SportTrac
http://image.motortrend.com/f/9220592+w750/112_news080215_07z+2009_ford_kuga+front_three_quar ter_view.jpg
European CUV Ford Kuga

I certainly think something based off of one of these models could make for a good looking new Ranger.

[Frank The Tank]

I wouldn't complain about a limited fat fender version!!! in the front.

Frank

[Beanmachine7000]

As far as newer Ford vehicles that could be used for inspiration for styling, these are a couple current/future offerings that would make for a decent looking future Ranger...
http://image.motortrend.com/f/future/9505662+pheader/112_0512_future_expl01_l.jpg
Current SportTrac
http://image.motortrend.com/f/9220592+w750/112_news080215_07z+2009_ford_kuga+front_three_quar ter_view.jpg
European CUV Ford Kuga

I certainly think something based off of one of these models could make for a good looking new Ranger.

The Kuga isn't on my list of attractive Ford vehicles...

[militarydave]

they should try restyling the GEN 1 and GEN 2 body styles, since older cars are making a comeback.

-dave

[Sweet-85']

they should try restyling the GEN 1 and GEN 2 body styles, since older cars are making a comeback.

-dave

A restyled body based on a first gen would be very interesting.

[Ranger Leo]

Why not take all this ecoboost technology and apply it to the trusty ole 5.0. would fit in our current size trucks. Gives us more power, better fuel and easier to get down the trails with. My 2 pennies.

Leo

[Joepoppa1]

Here are some concept pics

http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2010_ford_ranger_image_main.jpg


http://www.vospers.com/upload/vospers/images/misc/ford-ranger-main.jpg

[Frank The Tank]

Those look like butched up toyota's.
Which is about like being the smartest of the retarded.

Frank

[mattpresley]

they should try restyling the GEN 1 and GEN 2 body styles, since older cars are making a comeback.

-dave

+1! The gen 2 is my favorite!

[Blueranger99]

i would like to see the ranger a little bigger like how yota made the tacomas bigger. i would like to see options like a v8, i think it would get as good or better mpg than the 4.0- personally i think 19 highway is pretty poor, its not any better than the full size with a v8. i would also like to see options like bigger tires, solid axles, lockers, lower gears, winches, 4 doors. you know what, screw fuel mileage altogether, it wouldn't be a problem if those liberal morons would start drilling in the us. it would create jobs and lower our gas prices at the same time. hope i dont offend anyone, thats just my opinion.

[Frank The Tank]

A bigger ranger is allready made...... it's commonly known as the F-150.

I thought it's small size, was what gave it the Niche' in the market. A v-8 would be awesome.
Also a bulletproof trans, to ge the faith back that their crappy auto's have cost so many sales.

Frank

[willied]

I don't want to see them increase the size of it other than the room in the cab. They definitely lose a load of sales just because of the back seats.

[BlackSTX]

Definitely keep it smaller in size, everybody keeps trying to make smaller vehicles larger until they all of a sudden become a full-sized vehicle. The Tacoma got too big; keep the next ranger closer to the size it is now, just make more interior space available so us taller people don't have to recline the seat to have head room. Make a regular cab similar to the F150....but without the rear doors...just give it more room like a shorter 2 door super cab. After all, part of the reason for a small truck in being able to maneuver into smaller areas.

[mattpresley]

I don't want to see them increase the size of it other than the room in the cab. They definitely lose a load of sales just because of the back seats.

They need to make a crew cab! Everyone one makes a crewcab but the ranger. I would never buy a sport trac because I think its ugly and a 4 foot bed is ridiculous. Actualy I see very few on the road. Ford needs to dump the sport trac and make a crew ranger. also they need to gay it up with excess chrome and prettiness(only because thats the way cars are going nowadays it will boost sales). AC needs to be a standard feature(once again like damn near every other vehicle) those changes will make ford a lot of money and make many people happy

[Blueranger99]

you know you cant get much more interior room without making the cab longer wider and taller. im not saying they should make them huge, just a little wider. i used to fight with my wife over the armrest... till i took the center console out and replaced it with a subwoofer.

[mattpresley]

you know you cant get much more interior room without making the cab longer wider and taller. im not saying they should make them huge, just a little wider. i used to fight with my wife over the armrest... till i took the center console out and replaced it with a subwoofer.
I have no desire to see it bigger. They might make it like the Colorado. i wouldn't like that

[idriveafordranger94]

All of these are great ideas but how much do you think it will cost with all of these options on it?

[Frank The Tank]

All of these are great ideas but how much do you think it will cost with all of these options on it?

400k dollars, bout 5,000 peso's after inflation and the economy craps out by production.

Frank

[SixFoFalcon]

I haven't read through all the posts in this thread, so I don't know if it has been mentioned already, but I wouldn't mind seeing a hybrid Ranger. DC electric motors are great for low-end torque.

[Rifleman]

I haven't read through all the posts in this thread, so I don't know if it has been mentioned already, but I wouldn't mind seeing a hybrid Ranger. DC electric motors are great for low-end torque.

It was mentioned. You should read, it's interesting...

[kp3ft]

From the product we have today? How will it be different and what would people like to see changed?

I'd like to see a completely utilitarian, minimalist, "KISS" (keep it simple, silly) version that focuses on gas mileage without compromising safety and has the lowest practical price tag, and that would appeal to shade-tree mechanics (like myself). Absolutely no extras whatsoever; no AC, no electric windows, no power steering, no ABS, no radio. Scrap all non-essentials (including electronic sensors and gadgetry) to reduce weight, cost, and future maintenance costs. Keep all the above available as options of course. Scrap or change all non-essential suspension parts/design. Redesign the the cab shape to cut down on wind resistance, which would increase gas mileage. Offer both a diesel (better mpg) and gasoline version with the lowest practical engine sizes. Keep airbags and structural safety features (those add weight which reduces gas mileage, but is necessary). I think a minimalist pickup would attract buyers who are on a budget, which is including more people as the economy continues sinking.

All the automakers need to offer optional car and truck models like that, not just Ranger pickups.

[Toms01PSD]

I'd like to see a completely utilitarian, minimalist, "KISS" (keep it simple, silly) version that focuses on gas mileage without compromising safety and has the lowest practical price tag, and that would appeal to shade-tree mechanics (like myself). Absolutely no extras whatsoever; no AC, no electric windows, no power steering, no ABS, no radio. Scrap all non-essentials (including electronic sensors and gadgetry) to reduce weight, cost, and future maintenance costs. Keep all the above available as options of course. Scrap or change all non-essential suspension parts/design. Redesign the the cab shape to cut down on wind resistance, which would increase gas mileage. Offer both a diesel (better mpg) and gasoline version with the lowest practical engine sizes. Keep airbags and structural safety features (those add weight which reduces gas mileage, but is necessary). I think a minimalist pickup would attract buyers who are on a budget, which is including more people as the economy continues sinking.

All the automakers need to offer optional car and truck models like that, not just Ranger pickups.

You're not going to be able to sell a truck with no AC, power brakes, power steering, and no radio just about anywhere. You obviously don't live in a southern state. I didn't have AC in my truck last summer and I absolutely hated going anywhere that consisted of traffic. Going to the mall I would be wet from sweating so bad.

[Coleosis]

i used to fight with my wife over the armrest... till i took the center console out and replaced it with a subwoofer.

:icon_thumby::icon_rofl:

[Beanmachine7000]

You're not going to be able to sell a truck with no AC, power brakes, power steering, and no radio just about anywhere. You obviously don't live in a southern state. I didn't have AC in my truck last summer and I absolutely hated going anywhere that consisted of traffic. Going to the mall I would be wet from sweating so bad.

+1... I like the idea of having a base model truck, but I think no A/C is a little extreme... I think it should be manual everything, the only standard option being A/C...

[TravisBailey1]

From what I have heard (don't know if it's true or not) Ford is discontinuing the Ranger after the 2010 model year, and is replacing it with the F-100 name after a complete re-design. It will be slightly bigger than a Ranger but still smaller than a F-150 ( kind of in the middle which I think would be great). As far as engines go it will definitelly have the 4 cylinger ecoboost engine (a huge improvement if you ask me).
What I would like to see in a new ranger would be a factory lift kit, at least 3 inches over the current height, with some 33's under it, all options of corse. I would also like to see a beefier engine mayby a small block v8 (a v6 turbocharged ecoboost engine would be GREAT), or a small diesel ( i personally wouldn't go for the diesel myself but I can see why lots of people would),even with my 4.0L it seems like it has no power. I would like it to have solid axles and a six speed auto trans. To me 4 doors would be a plus since its going to be a bigger truck but with the size it is now, it would be a bad option. These are just my opinions, feel free to critisize them if you like. :icon_thumby:

[Frank The Tank]

I saw a tundra today.....

It was brand new, and had a rear window that rolled down.
Some preppy looking young guy with a sideways cap and a polo.
And this b!tchin hot blonde beside him.

I was trying to picture her riding in my 88, I think she vomitted in this vision
and then I tried the 97 .... it just wouldn't happen (i think the smell would have done it).
then the 2004.... and that was going pretty good till I realized my truck still wasn't worth enough money (nor would it ever look like it)

Maybe the Ranger should just try to pull itself out of the public image of being a cheap little gas getter, reliable 4wd, crap box.
Keep the reliablility and fuel ecoonmy, just get away from the cheap fealing, and classy people looking at it like it's a crap box.

Now I have to go out and spend a few grand to make my truck look nicer, just so I can steal some panzies girlfriend. way to go Ford designers!!!!

Frank

[rusty ol ranger]

Women dont like 1st gen rangers.

Or any vehicle before 97 for that matter.

later,
Dustin

[Toms01PSD]

From what I have heard (don't know if it's true or not) Ford is discontinuing the Ranger after the 2010 model year, and is replacing it with the F-100 name after a complete re-design. It will be slightly bigger than a Ranger but still smaller than a F-150 ( kind of in the middle which I think would be great). As far as engines go it will definitelly have the 4 cylinger ecoboost engine (a huge improvement if you ask me).
What I would like to see in a new ranger would be a factory lift kit, at least 3 inches over the current height, with some 33's under it, all options of corse. I would also like to see a beefier engine mayby a small block v8 (a v6 turbocharged ecoboost engine would be GREAT), or a small diesel ( i personally wouldn't go for the diesel myself but I can see why lots of people would),even with my 4.0L it seems like it has no power. I would like it to have solid axles and a six speed auto trans. To me 4 doors would be a plus since its going to be a bigger truck but with the size it is now, it would be a bad option. These are just my opinions, feel free to critisize them if you like. :icon_thumby:
Save yourself the trouble, go buy an F-250.

[Toms01PSD]

I saw a tundra today.....

It was brand new, and had a rear window that rolled down.
Some preppy looking young guy with a sideways cap and a polo.
And this b!tchin hot blonde beside him.

I was trying to picture her riding in my 88, I think she vomitted in this vision
and then I tried the 97 .... it just wouldn't happen (i think the smell would have done it).
then the 2004.... and that was going pretty good till I realized my truck still wasn't worth enough money (nor would it ever look like it)

Maybe the Ranger should just try to pull itself out of the public image of being a cheap little gas getter, reliable 4wd, crap box.
Keep the reliablility and fuel ecoonmy, just get away from the cheap fealing, and classy people looking at it like it's a crap box.

Now I have to go out and spend a few grand to make my truck look nicer, just so I can steal some panzies girlfriend. way to go Ford designers!!!!

Frank

I bet it had BFG Mall-Terrains on it too huh?

[Frank The Tank]

I bet it had BFG Mall-Terrains on it too huh?

flame shaped tread.......

Frank

[cheerleader2012]

I love my truck the way it is. thought this is my first car and my truck need some small work done but for an 88 its in great condition so i see no reason to change it.:icon_thumby:

[Toms01PSD]

flame shaped tread.......

Frank

Oh lord. I know what tires you're talking about but I can't think of the name. Nitto Mud grapplers or something like that? Those are mall-rated you know. :icon_thumby:

[Frank The Tank]

I saw a guy at a truck show with those same tires..... on 24inrims.

I was like wow, those sure do look uhm......... nifty.
He was like oh yeah, when i lay rubber you can see the tread pattern....

Me: they expensive? not bad.... I paid 1,800 for this set, it's my second one in a couple years. I got almost 25k out of the last ones!
Only complaint I have is road noise, and they suck in mud.
ME: cool man, you take it easy (trying to walk away and not snicker)

Frank

[splatranger95]

Been on TurboRangerForums.com for a while, and RPS, but just joined here. I love my ranger the way it is. Best truck ever, and I drive it every single day of my life. The ranger is supposed to be small. (Compact Truck DURR!!) I would love a turbo diesel or turbo gasser. Us Turboranger guys get alot of performance out of the lima, and have a gasser factory turbo'd would be pretty awesome. simple is better. Manual Reg cab with both 2wd and 4wd options for all engines. 4door is for the sport trac. Keep it really simple. No flashy stability control or side abs or that crap. A small version of the f150 would be ideal. Ford's doin something right though, No bailout and still makin money. Suck on that GM/Chrysler

[TSmith013]

The only things I'd change are I'd want Ford to bring back the flareside option like my truck has, and improved MPG.

I really don't want Ford to bring the overseas Ranger here. :shok:

[rusty ol ranger]

Whats wrong with BF all terrians?