cold air question

ch23119 · Oct 2, 2007

I want to put a cold air intake on and was wondering what others have found success with.. whether it be the k and n oil style or a dry style filter.. pro/cons and other advice. thanks

MAKG · Oct 3, 2007

You already have a cold air intake.

None of the aftermarket "cold" air intakes are actually cold.

krugford · Oct 3, 2007

+1

Spend your money on something else. Like tools.....

Ranger5.0 · Oct 3, 2007

+1 all those cold air intake sales ppl are juss after the all mighty buck bro. Buy tools, cool stuff that not everyone has, then you can build usefull stuff

dirtywheeler1988 · Oct 9, 2007

okay i have a 91 ranger with the 4.0 liter engine. and i just purchased a "cold air intake" from autospeedstore.com and as i was taking off my old intake i discovered that the intake was pulling the air directly from my header. how is that remotely close to a cold air intake. and what am i supposed to do with that 1.5 inch whole in the top of my header if i do completely take off my old intake. (i left parts just cause i thought it was a good idea) idk you are down on an intake but i love mine.

Hahnsb2 · Oct 9, 2007

You're wasting your time. That hose takes warm air from AROUND you manifold not from in your manifold (that would be exhaust gasses). It helps to warm the engine up faster and prevent throttle body icing (stuck open throttle), its uses a blend door (like a valve) thats controlled by vacuum, under throttle it doesnt use the exhaust manifold air. That being said, my exhaust heat shields were missing when I got my rig along with the, for lack of a better word, "warm air tube", Ive never had a problem without it. The stock intake is capable of flowing plenty good for your engine, leave it alone.

michowski · Oct 10, 2007

I got an air intake. Took off that warm air crap and just have a big 3 inch intake with a cone filter on the end. I wouldnt change back to stock but thats just my opinion. Breaths easier, cooler, overall better.

Sunk · Oct 10, 2007

michowski said:
I got an air intake. Took off that warm air crap and just have a big 3 inch intake with a cone filter on the end. I wouldnt change back to stock but thats just my opinion. Breaths easier, cooler, overall better.

Cone filter on the end of the throttle body? That just sucks in air from under the hood, which is much warmer than the air drawn by the stock intake, from down by your bumper. Ever stuck your head out a car window? Its colder than inside.

dirtywheeler1988 · Oct 10, 2007

1 up to michowski i got the full intake and under full throttle it rivals my buddies STI. its loud i feel a difference and the air under my hood HAS to be colder than the air coming off my headers.

michowski · Oct 10, 2007

Sunk said:
Cone filter on the end of the throttle body? That just sucks in air from under the hood, which is much warmer than the air drawn by the stock intake, from down by your bumper. Ever stuck your head out a car window? Its colder than inside.

Theres also a difference of how easy the air can get through all the tubes. Going from the bumper, into the box, up into the tube and finally into the manifold is definatly more restrictive then just a single tube with 2 bends and a filter on it by the bumper.

Sunk · Oct 10, 2007

Well if you mounted your filter by the bumper you're probably alright. It sounded like you just put the filter on the end of the throttle body.

Sasquatch_Ryda · Oct 10, 2007

dirtywheeler1988 said:
1 up to michowski i got the full intake and under full throttle it rivals my buddies STI. its loud i feel a difference and the air under my hood HAS to be colder than the air coming off my headers.

It is only pulling warm air off your exhaust manifold during start up, to help keep the throttle body from icing up. Under acceleration its pulling cold air from the grill.

But its pointless to try and argue with people that think these shiny pieces of chrome with a big oily filter that can lead to a damaged MAF and voided warranty are going bring improvments.

Gaining HP is not cheap, it costs big money. A stock engine is not going to pull any more air through an aftermarket "cold air' intake than it will through a stock intake. So sorry guys, the only things thats leading to this 'faster' feeling is because your wallet is lighter.

MAKG · Oct 10, 2007

Sasquatch_Ryda said:
So sorry guys, the only things thats leading to this 'faster' feeling is because your wallet is lighter.

They ARE louder.

That certainly affects the "ass dyno." Or at least lets them think it does....

The gains one can get from a filter alone are not significant and can be (slightly) negative.

samsonitesamsonite · Oct 10, 2007

these guys are experienced. they arn't quoting hear say, Ill be the first to spout off when mike is wrong, but 9 times out of 10 he isn't. CAI do nothing in themself, they will help in combination.

noone is above the rules, mods, tech advisors, admin... if anyone steps too far out of line, the are subject to ban.

85_Ranger4x4 · Oct 10, 2007

Tee Rev said:
Holy crap are you guys dense!!!

Have you ever taken apart your filter box to see the tiny hole that the engine gets to breath through ..... cold air or not!!

In this case MAKG is absolutely correct!! just adding an after market filter isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference. It can't because it isn't the restriction.

Anyone who tells you that a free flowing intake isn't worth power obviously has never bothered to try one!!

As I've stated before, I have first hand experience with the R&D behind the WMS cold air for the 05 and up Mustangs, and have personally seen the gains on the Dyno!!

Actually, for the first two years in business, I shared facilities with said Dyno.
I've seen hundreds of different combinations, before & after tests, and R&D sessions, and have yet to see a free flow intake that didn't make power (unless of course someone forgot to plug in the MAF sensor)

If you guys continue to give poor advice based purely on conjecture, I'm sorry but since no one will delete my account or ban me from this site I'm going to call you on it!!!

Better do your homework before you post something you've heard about!!!!

Do you have any dyno #'s for a Ranger that are unbiased?

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