Rear long travel

[RaceRanger97]

So i was kinda in a rush to get some kind of rear suspension travel before I head to the desert early nov. So i tried this set-up and it worked amazing considering it only cost my about $200 plus shocks.

First- bought a 64" leaf spring from an 06 1500 silderado:
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then i had them arched to 12" at my local spring shop:
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I moved the front mount forward a set of holes, about 6"
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd33/RaceRanger97/random597.jpg


then i fliped the rear shackle mount and moved it back 3"..used a 7" shackle
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on the driver side it was a pain because i had to drop the tank to get to the other side ot the bolts.

siting:
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fool droop:
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stance:
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droop:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd33/RaceRanger97/random606.jpg

ill take more pics with the bed after i get back from the metal yard.


ended up with 18" of wheel travel...not bad for what it cost

[Ranger#1]

how muck was the arking $

[RaceRanger97]

how muck was the arking $

$85

[AKBroncoII]

Wow, that's a very arched spring.

[84projectFORD]

sweet idea! they might start to sag pretty quick because of the amount of ach in them but thats what testings for! ;). get some shocks and valve them bad boys so we can see some test vids! haha

[CopyKat]

Makes me want to get the Durango leaves under my truck. I've got to get the new 8.8 built first then the whole rear will get changed up.

[canyoncritter]

pffffttt., it will never work, it didnt cost enuff money:woot:

cool lower dollar deal.remids me of what you use to see back in the day, people trying the "home built aproach":icon_cheers:

[RaceRanger97]

more business has occured


added some new cross members:
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd33/RaceRanger97/random620.jpg

started bed cage:
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I was shocked when i saw how much travel it ended up having

..ran out of jack:

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[CopyKat]

Looks like all your droop is in your shackle. How much uptravel you got?

[RaceRanger97]

Looks like all your droop is in your shackle. How much uptravel you got?

it bumps out 9" of up travel before it hits bump stop..i just tried it it out and it cycles really well..the shackle moves back as good as it falls forward...i had to adjust the shackle placement after the first test because the spring de-arched a bit...which i kinda anticipated..now that its settled it works great

[84projectFORD]

what kind of shocks you gunna run on that bad boy?

[RaceRanger97]

what kind of shocks you gunna run on that bad boy?

2.5 16" sway aways pretty soon hopefully...but right now im gunna run some 14" ranchos my buddy had laying around

that cage im workin on is probably gunna be temporary

[84projectFORD]

yeah i would say so too, im really curious to see how it works out. have you drivin it at all since you put the springs on?

[RaceRanger97]

yeah i would say so too, im really curious to see how it works out. have you drivin it at all since you put the springs on?

ya, it handles waaaaaaaayyyy beter ..the ass end doesnt fling into the air at all on the big stuff like it did before

[84projectFORD]

very nice! damn i wanna get mine done now! this workin only on the weekends on it jsut aint workin too well for me lol

[RaceRanger97]

very nice! damn i wanna get mine done now! this workin only on the weekends on it jsut aint workin too well for me lol

ya it takes time thats for sure...i probably should be workin on it as much as i am..with all the late nights in the garage my grades in college seem to be droping lol

[84projectFORD]

haha x2! my girlfriend only likes the truck because she lives in phoenix and i come down every weekend to work on it but all my friends up hereare pissed cause im gone, i day dream in class about the ranger and miss everything i am suppose to learn, dont do homework cause im looking for parts on line and needless to say my grades are not as good as they should be lol

[97BlackBetty]

My grades are never as good as they should be. 2.0 and go right?

I really like how the truck is coming along, makes me wish I had another truck.

[RaceRanger97]

haha x2! my girlfriend only likes the truck because she lives in phoenix and i come down every weekend to work on it but all my friends up hereare pissed cause im gone, i day dream in class about the ranger and miss everything i am suppose to learn, dont do homework cause im looking for parts on line and needless to say my grades are not as good as they should be lol

lol yup...all my econ notes are covered in shetches of beam set-ups and rear link ideas ..and a few econ graphs lol

[Clay_95Ranger]

Where did you get your fenders and Bedsides and how much were they??

[RaceRanger97]

Where did you get your fenders and Bedsides and how much were they??

i pulled and cut the rear bedsides myself...and the front fenders were on Race-Dezert.com for a couple hundred

[84projectFORD]

well at least your shocks will be a bit cheaper than mine. 1325 for the shocks that are suppose to go with my rear leafs! Yike! but thats the price you pay to be competitive lol

[RaceRanger97]

well at least your shocks will be a bit cheaper than mine. 1325 for the shocks that are suppose to go with my rear leafs! Yike! but thats the price you pay to be competitive lol

lol ya thats alot...ill get there eventually

[Clay_95Ranger]

Did you do all your long travel your self? did you cut you bed and all the crap?

[burningRANGERtires]

your truck is pretty sick. can you take a pic of just the truck from afar.. want to see how level it is now with the new springs.. also your drive shaft looks like its at an extreme angle.. how necessary was it to move the springs forward and flip the rear hanger????

[RaceRanger97]

your truck is pretty sick. can you take a pic of just the truck from afar.. want to see how level it is now with the new springs.. also your drive shaft looks like its at an extreme angle.. how necessary was it to move the springs forward and flip the rear hanger????

thanks man..ill snap a pic tomorrow of it sitting...moving the springs forward made it so i didn't have to drill new holes for the center pin. and fliping the shackle gave me alot more spring movement..i put shims under the leafs so the pinion angle isnt very bad anymore.

[sloue]

Makes me want to get the Durango leaves under my truck. I've got to get the new 8.8 built first then the whole rear will get changed up.

i will be watching for that. i want to know how those durango leaves work, i happen to have a rolled one out back. and are looking into the longer spring shackel set up al ready. iam buildind my shackels useing those 1 ton shackels as a base

[burningRANGERtires]

thanks man..ill snap a pic tomorrow of it sitting...moving the springs forward made it so i didn't have to drill new holes for the center pin. and fliping the shackle gave me alot more spring movement..i put shims under the leafs so the pinion angle isnt very bad anymore.

o could you get a picture of the shims too.. also how much lift did you get from this??

[bovaddict]

nice man! i was visiting my sister at college (she said she goes to school with you) and i saw your truck outside an auto parts store just 2 weeks ago without this. i took some pics of it so if you saw some dude in a white explorer(borrowed car) takin pics of your truck that was me.

nice ride and nice build! waiting on pics of it leveled..

[RaceRanger97]

Business has occured:

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[bovaddict]

nice man! im assuming its not done yet but it looks good!

[burningRANGERtires]

wows!!! alright but pics of shims too??? haha and also great job!!! LOOKS GOOD.. wanna come to vegas and do the same with my trucK??

[ckblum]

You don't race that truck do you? Does it have a cage inside as well? I really like what you've done with the roll cage in the back, its like an actual roll bar in the bed. I was thinking of doing something similar since I don't have the cash or skills to do a proper in-cab cage. How much did it cost you? Does it tie in to the frame the length of the cage? Im guessing you also gonna use it for mounting shocks too?

[RaceRanger97]

You don't race that truck do you? Does it have a cage inside as well? I really like what you've done with the roll cage in the back, its like an actual roll bar in the bed. I was thinking of doing something similar since I don't have the cash or skills to do a proper in-cab cage. How much did it cost you? Does it tie in to the frame the length of the cage? Im guessing you also gonna use it for mounting shocks too?

no but i hopefully will be eventually racing it. most likely next month i will have it go through the cab after i solid mount it. I have a friend that builds rock crawler cages, he bent everything up for about 400. and yes the shocks will mount off of it also.

[RaceRanger97]

wows!!! alright but pics of shims too??? haha and also great job!!! LOOKS GOOD.. wanna come to vegas and do the same with my trucK??

lol damn i for got the shims...well the truck is on a trailer now ready for a desert trip this weeekend...so there will be plenty of new pics by monday.

[sloue]

i have been inspired by your roll bar . some q s. i have been researching roll protection for years now all ways applied to dirt cars .this is the first time i have looked at doing a truck .the in out set up you are building is what i want to do . my q is when you talk about solid mounting your cab you are removing the rubber and replacing it with some solid puck , for lack of a term? when i was building stock cars we would use a piece of pipe caped with plate and drilled. then bolt this in place of the rubber body mount . is this the same idea , or is there a more high tech method ? in retrospect my methods back in those days don't seem so safe these days .

[CopyKat]

Essemtially that would work. The think with building an interior cage is that you want to mount it to the frame. When doing this you essentially rigid mount the body so that it doesn't move and tie the pillars to the cage.

[sloue]

Essentially that would work. The think with building an interior cage is that you want to mount it to the frame. When doing this you essentially rigid mount the body so that it doesn't move and tie the pillars to the cage.
always to the frame i have seen a few cages pushed though the floor.never thought of the pillars , i have seen this in wrc thats a grand plan.

[ckblum]

Won't rigid mounting the body increase road noise and vibrations? Can you use stock body mounts and have the cage not tied into the frame but tied together kinda like a box? Or can you just run normal body mounts with the cage tied to the frame and not the pillars?

[CopyKat]

Won't rigid mounting the body increase road noise and vibrations?

At that point I don't think that it is a consern

If you tie the cage to the frame then you don't want the body to float around. And you'll have holes in the floor to allow for the body movement around the cage tubes. Also removing the body is going to be a PITA unless you like having to cut the cage to get it off.

Having the cage plated to the floor with tubes going back to the frame why not rigid mount the floor? So solid mounts are nice as your floor will survive and not crack and tear to shit.

Also If the tube is close enough to the pillar why not help the pillar by plating it to the tube. Just seems to make sense, and make the whole package stronger.

[ckblum]

Yea I'm just thinking for a DD kinda thing where comfort is still up there on the priorities list.

[RaceRanger97]

just got back from the dezert and it handled amazing! had a few problems at first but eventually it worked out nicely. up to 65 mph in the lighter runs and up to 50 in the big stuff...tires seemed to stay on the ground very well. have a bunch of pics and a few vids pretty soon.

[RaceRanger97]

i have been inspired by your roll bar . some q s. i have been researching roll protection for years now all ways applied to dirt cars .this is the first time i have looked at doing a truck .the in out set up you are building is what i want to do . my q is when you talk about solid mounting your cab you are removing the rubber and replacing it with some solid puck , for lack of a term? when i was building stock cars we would use a piece of pipe caped with plate and drilled. then bolt this in place of the rubber body mount . is this the same idea , or is there a more high tech method ? in retrospect my methods back in those days don't seem so safe these days .

I have seen alot of people use solid billit mounts to replace the cab bushings or daystar makes a pretty solid bushing that i was thinking of trying first..if the cab still moves to much then try the other.

[RaceRanger97]

Haha! Very cool Idea and Props to you for being different! One thing I would try in the future is to have Deaver build you a pack off of your main spring. It will help make the leaf pack progressive and work 100x better. It will allow the spring to pre-load which will help the truck droop out in the bigger holes. Whithout pre-load the truck will pack up. Also when your ready for some shock valving tips let me know! I am more then willing to help make your truck go faster in the ruff. Plus it would be cool to see you pass a guy with those standard everyday off the shelf leaf packs that dont do what they claim. haha!

thanks, ya my buddy has a deaver pack on his truckk and he took out alot of the leafs, i was thinking about adding them to mine to get more reaction from them..As soon as i get some decent shocks on the truck i will definately be buggin you for some tips